For Love of Blondes

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I love blondes. I have always loved blondes. Not any blondes, though. Not dusty blondes, not casual blondes, not peroxide blondes, not brunettes with blonde streaks. But those real, rare, white blondes with hair like sun-bleached straw. Like corn silk.

Lately, and in certain circles, love of the generic blonde has become somewhat synonymous with unadventurous taste; with uninspired consumption of a mass-media beauty standard, with trashiness and pornography, with sexual objectification and – even – a racialized aesethetic ideal. Blonde has, it seems, become vanilla.

But I call bullshit.

I think that attractive white-blondes are actually quite exotic looking. I think that appreciation of the striking 'look' – hair-color coupled with Slavic cheekbones and (often) seablue teardrop eyes is rare and special. Cf. Veronica Lake, Maria Sharapova, Jean Seberg.

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://perso.orange.fr/chabrieres/actresses/thumbnails/jean_seberg.jpg

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.thenelsonbrothers.com/photos/promos/atrpro.jpg

DAVE's secret to fortu-Oh look! Shiny! (dave225.3), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

i hate blondes

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

so this thesis boils down to "I dare say, naturally blonde Swedish chicks are unsually attractive"? way to go out on a limb. rage on.

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

naturally blonde... asians.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

do you strive to be obnoxious?

(xpost)

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Which circles are you talking about? I'm genuinely curious. Are you trying to contrast this to the media's recent interest with the "exotic" (ie Jennifer Lopez and Jessica Alba, apparently), or are you trying to talk about indie kids who love "unusual" women (ie Winona Ryder and Maggie G, apparently)?

I'm genuinely curious because it doesn't strike me that, by and large, people really actually don't discriminate that hardcore based on criteria like that, or have like a "oh that's so passe" attitude.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think a really striking fair-skinned blonde is rarer than a really striking fair or darker skinned brunette. Many blondes, becuase their features are less well defined seem inspid to me. I share the Ronnie Lake love, am somewhat indifferent to Sharapova, and sometimes like Seburg. I find the kind of fake-titted, bottle blonde that's always on the arm of, say, Hugh Hefner, slightly revolting but I adore someone like Carole Lombard.

Also, I have secret-shame crush on Sienna Guillory.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I think there's a level on which those fair super-natural blondes aren't though of as "sexy" anymore, and looked at in more of an innocent girl-next-door way -- kind of naturally, since most people with that coloring drop most of it as they finish their teenage years. But then what it still represents to people seems to be some kind of refinement or "class," which is the thing that's always battling successfully with "sexiness" in terms of people's preferences. (E.g., curves are "sexy," skinniness is "refined" or whatever, and yet somehow the latter is unnaturally successful in winning that fight.)

But anyway I think I see part of what Remy's saying, in that certain kinds of real natural blondeness don't actually have anything to do with the blondes everyone supposedly likes. Veronica Lake in this picture, for instance:

http://www.skylighters.org/photos/pinups/veronica.jpg

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.survivinggrady.com/hulkho.jpg

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I've just noticed a change in the (shall we call it 'de facto babe'?) standard of beauty as it's visualized during the past few years.

It seems to me that throughout the '80s and '90s sexy DeFactoBabe was conspicuously big-boobed, washboard-abbed, collogen-lipped, with peroxide blonde hair. A Pamela Anderson, Nicole Eggert, NASCAR dad girl, Hefner honey.

As tastes have run toward a very slightly more exotic look (Alba, J.Lo, that pretty Texan girl from Lost), it seems there's a sort of intellectualized backlash against blondes. Maybe I'm imagining it, but I think that it's kind of a hip guys'-night-out thing to say "I don't like blondes" or "I prefer latina chicks" or some commment about how blonde girls aren't natural enough (or ARE trashy enough, you know… ) that I don't remember being in place a few years ago.

I don't think anybody is actually discriminating in any hardcore way based on hair-color (and christ, i hope they don't start to) but I got to thinking that there might've been a cultural shift (U.S.) in presentation of what's most desirable, and most popular, and most in-your-face sexy.

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's because you're talking about the concept of blondes there, in terms of what-one-likes, and the concept of blondes became, for a while, exactly the kind of corny supposedly-hot tits-and-hair constructs you mention.

It seems to me that what you're saying is that you like blondes when they have all the other qualities that tend to come with blondeness, the ethnic features that the "blonde" construct was actually mostly opposed to: massively pale skin, freckles, flat-chestedness, gawky facial features, thin lips, etc.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

"i don't like blondes" is the new "i don't watch television"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

DUDE WHEN TUOMAS FINDS THIS THREAD IT'S ALL OVER

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

awesome, latebloomer.

nabisco -- i think you're right, actually. and i hope this doesn't suggest i'm gonna turn one of those guys who refuses to let his girlfriend wear makeup or shave because it's undercutting her 'core of self-beauty.'

another thread: 'for love of massive, belly-reaching, untamed pubes'

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

i was always a big fan of the waifish/hippie chick blonde of the late 60s/early 70s a la peggy lipton & michelle phillips (different from the lusty & busty blondes of later years- Farrah, Pam Anderson, or even earlier years - Marilyn)

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

"i don't like blondes" is the new "i don't watch television"

The hell?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

ie "i'm too sophisticated to have the tastes of the hoi polloi"

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

What I love about these discussions is the idea that any adult would allow any other person a veto with regards to what they genuinely find sexy. Even if what you like is shared by 80% of the populace doesn't make it any less erotic or sexy to you.

the ethnic features that the "blonde" construct was actually mostly opposed to: massively pale skin, freckles, flat-chestedness, gawky facial features, thin lips, etc.

I'd argue that that's a relatively recent construct but that such constructs endure and even proliferate more now because of a longer mediatized memory (film, TV, magazines with color photography, the internet, etc...) and that even saying 'gawky' facial features belies your participation in a modern 'blonde' aesthetic which didn't apply to, say, 19th century European artists or 14th century European aristocrats, nor, frankly, to me at all.

For every svelte highly 'ethnic' ice blonde there's a parcel of lovely, busty, voluptuous, dairy maids. I like them all, but I think the Hitchcockian ideal has become a stereotype that's rather facile to reject. If only just to brag a little, I went out with a tow-headed little slip of a thing once and she was neither frigid nor particularly refined and I remember her (mostly) quite fondly.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

this is why i stick to raping cows.

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

i love blond dudes - i have yet to meet another chick who fancies BLOND AMBITIONS. also i absolutely fucking love blonde hair on girls, i just wish i could pull it off.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

What's the name of the blonde dude that goes out with Samantha on SITC? I know no end of ladies who don't normally like blonds, who liked him.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, M, I'm not saying they're actually refined! I'm saying they're coded as "refined" because ... well, because our aesthetics can be kinda ethnically biased, basically.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I know, Nabisco. I'm a wee bit grumpy this week.

Ironically, I think that they sometime ARE 'refined'. When the ruling class decides on an esthetic, it tends to breed it (in both the genetic and upbringing sense, naturally).

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Well yeah, I think we all kind of get roped into some of the roles our appearance makes possible for us -- both because we play to our own types and because people treat us according to those types.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

YOU WATCHED HER ALL SUMMER, DIDN'T YOU? DID SHE KNOW YOU WERE THERE? SUMMER BLONDE!

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

It's just that rich blonde girls whose dads are trophy-wife collectors (and whose mothers are thus trophy wives) can be scads of fun for a while. This is all bringing to mind The Onion headline - 'Trophy Wife Mounted'.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

i used to be blond
but it's over now

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

The "I don't watch television" analogy is perfect.

When I was 11, I was at a sleepover and we were talking about girls, and one guy's sexual ideal -- to the extent that you have a sexual ideal at that age (and you kinda do, but well, it's complicated) -- seemed to be Vanna White and Dolly Parton. Which I never really understood. I knew that guys were supposed to like busty blondes, but I never did. And actually, who knows if my friend really did, either -- that's what I mean about it being complicated at that age. I just know that ever since I was 7, I preferred brunettes.

So this day, I'm pleasantly surprised when I find a blonde attractive, although it's also happened often enough (Naomi Watts, Michelle Williams, Reese Witherspoon, Emilie de Ravin) that maybe I shouldn't be anymore.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

i used to be blond
but it's over now

I am imagining this sung to the tune of Roxette's "It Must Have Been Love."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm blonde, it's rubbish.

lift up fong and see (haitch), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Blondes tend to have drier skin than brunettes and so also tend to get wrinklier in their old age, but I trust you are not talking about blonde old ladies here.

Once You Go Brown, Blondes Are Still Hot (Uri Frendimein), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

wow this thread is already creepy without kenan and tuomas! good work everyone!

Moonwalkbjrain (chaki), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

If you think that's creepy, get a load of this:

http://www.x-entertainment.com/updates/pics/walker.jpg

W. Wallwalker (Uri Frendimein), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

THOSE ARE WACKY WALL WALKERS NOT CREEPY CRAWLERS YOU FUCKDRIP

Moonwalkbjrain (chaki), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

unless they're blonde plz to get them the fuck off my thread.

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

meow!

Moonwalkbjrain (chaki), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

the ethnic features that the "blonde" construct was actually mostly opposed to: massively pale skin, freckles, flat-chestedness, gawky facial features, thin lips, etc.

yum, but this type usually goes with a more muted blonde flavor that I think is different from what remy's talking about?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

meow farrow

Damn, Atreyu! (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

THOSE ARE WACKY WALL WALKERS NOT CREEPY CRAWLERS YOU FUCKDRIP

As you can plainly see, I'm well aware of the name of the item, but if you don't think they're creepy, I question your judgement.

W. Wallwalker (Uri Frendimein), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

they are not creepy they are wacky

Moonwalkbjrain (chaki), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

Come on, they're the same quality of creepiness as these:

http://bksschoolhouse.com/cart-imgs/prod10320_sm.jpg

W. Wallwalker (Uri Frendimein), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

... or do you deny that Creepy Crawlers are, in fact, creepy?

W. Wallwalker (Uri Frendimein), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

what I'm trying to say is I don't think remy is talking about blondes who depart completely from the 80s 'blonde' construct (who are usually some variety of dirty blonde), a la nabisco, but are rather natural correspondents of the platinum look (for lack of a better word a 'pure' or 'white' variety of blonde) - confirm/deny?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

(my interest in the distinction being that the nabisco variety is totally my type and the deemed-remy type totally isn't)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

do you strive to be obnoxious?
(xpost)

yeah, sometimes i really do!

fwiw, i get what you're saying. and i've got nothing against people finding natural blondes especially striking. it even runs pretty predominately in my family - my aunt actually was one of those waifish/hippie chick blondes of the late 60s/early 70s.

http://www.hagstrom.org.uk/kathy_robertson.htm

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

whats a dusty blonde?

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

...there's a parcel of...dairy maids.

OTM

The Milkmaid Next Door (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

i used to be blond
but it's over now

I wish the last line was applicable to me. Alas no, I'm stuck with my blonde hair. :-( I hate'em. (More so in men. Sorry Kate!) I just hate being blonde. It doesn't go with anything: if you're too tanned, you look like a freakazoid. If you're pale, like I am, you just look... like a light bulb or blanket. Especially in pics. I can't explain it, I just don't LIKE being blonde at all. If I would have the nerve, I'd change the colour but usually people will say:"Oh but you look so nice with yer blonde hair! Why change?"

Why? Because it looks awful. Duh.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, Nath, you need to tame that self loathing. I think blond men are lovely. And blond ladies. I am actually vaguely jealous of your purty honey coloured hair.

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'll shave it off and send it to you. What do you have to offer?

Self loathing? No no no, self-knowledge. ;-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

cant you get like some temporary or semi-permanent thingy and try dark(er)?

i absolutely love being blonde and its nothing to do with attracting guys (dark haired girls get way more boy action) or standing out. its just this one thing where i might be walking down the street and some hair falls in my face with the sun behind it and it glows this magnificent gold that fills up your entire vision for a moment. its beautiful and its as simple as that. im easily amused, i guess, but when i have dark hair i just feel kind of dead.

all that said, i think a beautiful girl with dark hair trumps a beautiful girl with blonde hair every time. and, like nathalie says, it doesnt go with anything. suddenly most of what looked good on you doesnt anymore. im pretty much limited to sky blue, black, chocolate brown and bright red clothing these days which is pretty sucky. and, worse, it looks completely different in different lights. wheatish in the bathroom, yellow in the mall, white in the sun, sandy in the office, brassy in the rearview mirror.

anyway, i still love it.

also, best blonde: brady blonde.

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Bb-b-but red clothing is awesome!

Eh, blondes with a tan can usually wear orange, fuchsia (if you like that kind of thing), olive green, kelly green, etc. If you're the sun-avoidant type, yeah, it does limit things, but it could be worse! You could be a redhead!

There's also the part where vivid lipstick colors look really, really funny cos there's no weight of eyebrow or anything to balance it out -- I'm not even all THAT blonde and I can't wear lipstick.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I could never wear lipstick when I was bleached white blonde. I've only started to get away with it now I'm a more natural dark blonde. But it means I have to make up my eyes and put on mascara as I'm aflicted with that "no eyebrows" look.

I could wear bright red then which I can't now. But the whole burgundy/wine/dark red range has opened up for me instead.

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

It does strike me that the people Remy is talking about are wholly different from the people who Nabisco is talking about (I wouldn't class Veronica Lake or Sharapova as fitting what n said at all besides having blonde hair). I'm thinking Uma Thurman moreso than Gwen Paltrow here.

Also, Laurel, I have reddish blonde hair...and I can wear lipstick (though I'm way too lazy to actually do so beyond rare super special occasions). So there Miss "You could be a redhead!" :P

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I think blondes can wear many bright colors that many brunettes cannot, though the art of lipstick/hair color/skin tone matching is one that seems to escape a large number of women I see.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

KIm, your mom's hot! I can't wait to meet her ;)

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I dunno -- my hair, skin, eyebrows, etc are basically all the same color so I can't wear beige or any light neutrals and I have no idea what to do with lipstick. I go with bright clothes and big jewelry for emphasis, instead.

On a more elevated note: yes, the buxom milkmaid thing is TOTES separate from the uber-refined ice queen. Also, that picture of V. Lake looks an awful lot like Carly.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Some are best in black; some are best in bright red; some are best in orange. Picture one in a winter coat with any of those three colors and you'll see what I mean.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2004-07-09/screens_feature2-1.jpg

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

why has no one mentioned ms turner?

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Lana or Kathleen?

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Lana of course!

I feel the Joan F vs. Olivia de H controversy may bubble up again at any minute

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Lana was a cheap tart.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Also, that picture of V. Lake looks an awful lot like Carly.

I think the Pipette on the left looks like her more so:

http://www.londonist.com/attachments/londonist_mark/pipettes.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more OTM than Laurel, weirdly.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/possumblog/People/catherine_deneuve.jpg

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't like blondes, not even Catherine Deneuve, unbelievably!

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Ursula_Andress_Biography_2.jpg

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

I think I prefer blondes
http://www.ed-wood.net/laura_palmer_3.JPG

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's the fine-ness of VL's hair, the deep side-part, and the way her ear is peeking through that remind me of Carly. Not so much feature-by-feature.

Ahh, CDN: maybe my favorite blonde ever.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

And I have to point out, there's a lovely blonde look being represented here -- the dark/catty eye and natural lip. Hurrah to that!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

of course she was a cheap tart, thats why we loved her

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

i used to be blond
but it's over now

Me, too! Toe-headed kid, mousy brown adult. BUT I'm starting to go gray now and the overall effect, for now anyway, is to make my hair appear lighter and blonder. So full circle, I guess.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

dyson, you mean my other mom that's not my aunt, or webster's mom? damn, i'm getting confused with so many moms.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Catherine Deneuve in Umbrellas Of Cherbourg is probably the pinnacle of female beauty (but not a real blonde, n'est-ce pas?)

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 13 July 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)


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