Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut

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I had no idea there was so much controversy. It's being re-released on DVD this November:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_II:_The_Richard_Donner_Cut

For what it's worth, the only copy I own was recorded in 1985, promoted as an "Expanded Cut" featuring almost 30 minutes of unseen footage. This version has been out of print for more than 20 years.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 July 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

Me neither. I always like the second Superman movie too.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 July 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)

INTRIGUED.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 13 July 2006 02:07 (twenty years ago)

VERY ALSO - the bits I loathed the most about Supes II (cf. Army Town USA) just happen to be the bits Lester directed. More po-face, please!

One hope: Ned Beatty muttering under his breath, "I'm too old for this shit."

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 July 2006 02:31 (twenty years ago)

This would be a lot more interesting if Richard Donner wasn't a big fat hack.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 13 July 2006 03:14 (twenty years ago)

defend your statement.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 13 July 2006 03:54 (twenty years ago)

Timeline (2003)
Lethal Weapon 4 (1998)
Conspiracy Theory (1997)
Assassins (1995)
Maverick (1994)
Lethal Weapon 3 (1992)
Radio Flyer (1992)
Scrooged (1988)
Ladyhawke (1985)
The Toy (1982)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 13 July 2006 04:41 (twenty years ago)

SCROOGED!?!?!?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 July 2006 04:44 (twenty years ago)

Scrooged is the only thing on there that I kind of like.

― Marmot 4-Tay: based on my memories of the one listen I gave it 19 years ago (mar, Thursday, 13 July 2006 05:28 (twenty years ago)

Also, "Dick" Donner.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 13 July 2006 06:02 (twenty years ago)

Lethal Weapon 4 (1998)
Conspiracy Theory (1997)
Maverick (1994)
Scrooged (1988)
The Toy (1982)

^ very entertaining movies

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Thursday, 13 July 2006 08:34 (twenty years ago)

Assassins (1995)
Lethal Weapon 3 (1992)
Ladyhawke (1985)

^ ok haha nobodys perfect

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Thursday, 13 July 2006 08:35 (twenty years ago)

Lethal Weapon 4 and Scrooged are great!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:03 (twenty years ago)

The laughing gas scene in LW4 is one of the funniest ever!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Even the ending is different. In the version I own Lex Luthor, held at gunpoint by U.S. "Snow Patrol" bargains with Superman and Lois while in the background you can clearly see the three not-so-super-villains-anymore being loaded into an armored van.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:11 (twenty years ago)

The Omen (1976)
Superman (1978)
The Goonies (1985)
Lethal Weapon (1987)
Lethal Weapon 2 (1989)

ALL RAD.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:40 (twenty years ago)

i luuuuved ladyhawke. cause i was a giant nerd. as entrances go, matthew broderick wriggling directly out the side of a mud wall is pretty hard to top.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:57 (twenty years ago)

And he directed a young(er) William Shatner in the original "Nightmare at 20,000 feet" on the Twilight Zone!

But yes...Ladyhawke and Assassins were pretty terrible.

― Big Loud Ape Mountain (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)

I stand by my call, Donner defines hack, but sometimes hacks make good movies (Victor Fleming, the guy who directed Casablanca - I'm blanking) even great ones. And perhaps his Superman II is better than Lester's - which was pretty good to begin with.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Man he directed The Goonies. You can't outright dismiss the guy that directed The Goonies.

Also he directed episodes of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and Kojak and the Fugitive! If this guy is a hack he is my favorite hack ever.

Anyway um yeah totally excited about new Superman II. I eat this sort of stuff up in general though.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Maverick is a great movie. Lethal Weapon 4 might be Jet Li's finest hour. Donner's the good kind of hack.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I assumed the funny bits in Superman II were Lester's.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.zod2008.com/

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:54 (twenty years ago)

i luuuuved ladyhawke. cause i was a giant nerd.

Oh, it was great in a nerdy way.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:02 (twenty years ago)

before canonizing Lester, let's remember he directed such spectacularly unfunny films as How I Won the War and ...Superman III.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Morbius returns from Krypton!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Altair, dude.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

I remember watching this on TV as a kid.

Also, Donner is wholly responsible for Geoff Johns, so make of that what you will (if you don't know who Geoff Johns is, don't worry).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

You mean Geoff Johns, the supervising producer of Blade: The Series?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm probably the only one here who owns this on DVD.

X-15 (1961) (as Richard D. Donner)

Charles Bronson and Mary Tyler Moore! Edwards AFB action!

― Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 13 July 2006 18:16 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

At one point in this great article about a Ponzi scheme dude from Long Island:

At an investors’ meeting on the Isle of Man for the start-up the father had suggested, Israel’s CFO got wind of another company, Debit Direct, whose preposterous plan to compete with Western Union and MoneyGram wasn’t entirely clear, but whose pitchman, a six-foot-six venture capitalist named Jack O’Halloran, hugely impressed Israel—telling him he had acted in Superman, Dragnet, and King Kong, slept with Hollywood starlets, and fought George Foreman at Madison Square Garden. All of this was, improbably, true. O’Halloran also told Israel that he was the secret love child of a Gambino-family crime boss and that he was writing a firsthand account revealing the truth about the Kennedy assassination—that the president had been shot by his driver and the footage edited out of the Zapruder film by the CIA.

http://www.scaredstiffreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/jack-ohalloran-part2-header_.jpg

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 July 2012 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

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