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how many murderers do you know?

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inspired by dan perry on the matchmaking thread.

i only know one, a lad in my class at school who got sent to borstal (forget why) and then killed someone in there. attempting to set fire to a desk in class was a bit of a giveaway that he was destined for a life at her majesties pleasure really

― gareth, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

None. A high school friend's date was shot to death on his way home from the senior prom, it made the Daily News.

― Lesley Higgins, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Murderers:

1 guy who shot his friend playing Russian Roulette.
4 guys who electrocuted a friend while attempting to play a prank on him.
1 woman who ran over a 7-year-old while driving a bus.
1 guy who shot his ex-girlfriend, then himself.
1 woman who stabbed her roommate, then hung herself.

Manslaughterers:

1 guy who killed his best friend and both of their dates in a car accident.

Eight people. That isn't normal, is it? (I wont bring up the suicides, murder victims, and maimings.)

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

None, I hope.

― james e l, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Me's a good counter, yeah.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jeez, Dan. I can't even imagine what the manslaughter guy felt like. I'd be unable to function at all.

To my knowledge, no murderers/accidental killers/etc. I trust it continues that way.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I must apologize: the guy I have listed for manslaughter was actually apassenger in the car and not the driver. My subconscience can nount better than I thought it could.

Horrifying bit of info: The car- crash survivor is the nephew of the woman who ran over the seven-year- old with a bus. I have unabiding hatred for this woman because she told one of my friends (who was 12 at the time) that her dead brother (the driver of the car) was an awful person who deserved to die because her nephew lost some teeth in the crash.

I must stop talking about these things because the only ways people tend to react to them are shrieking horror or extreme black comedy, and these two approaches are rarely compatible.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When you think about it, I bet you meet more murderers than you realise, they just never mention it.

― Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

About a half-dozen vehicular manslaughters, I'm from the drunk- driving sticks. The squaddie I mentioned in the 'Matt Johnson' thread, although I suspect many of his claims were untrue. Some guy who shot his wife in the head, pleaded self-defense and got off. A South African expat who was deep into the gang culture there.

― tarden, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does attempted murder count?

― masonic boom, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Think I'll avoid meeting Dan's friends + acquaintances without wearing body armour.

School acquaintance got given life for stabbing a lad to death in a post-nightclub ruck in Bradford.

Not murder but...Girlfriends ex got banged up for possession of Semtex, + IRA membership, then it turned out he wasn't quite the 'ex' I'd been told he was...if you see what I mean. Somewhat discomforting. Out of the blue heard him speaking on the World Service the other month, v. eloquently as I remember him, about the architecture of the Maze Prison(he'd just been let out as part of the early release scheme). I was shaving at the time and nearly cut myself.

Used to work in prisons, doing drugs/drink/HIV 'awareness'workshops (fascinating experience). Huge red-haired Glaswegian attended a couple, the other lads all kept their distance. He confided that he'd gone on a serious drinking binge with a couple of mates, blanked out, and when he came round they were both...well you know. The mad glint in his eye as he told me I shall never forget.

― stevo, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh honestly, ATTEMPTED murder?! do they give a nobel prize for ATTEMPTED chemistry?

― ethan, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, but they do get some pretty serious research grants.

I don't know about that because it's hardly a 1 or 0 type of situation. If someone is brutalized to within an inch of their life, yet somehow barely pulls through, you don't then let the perpetrator off with no strings attached, now do you? If the intent was to kill, regardless of the end result that person *was* murderous. In that sense, there is little difference.

I once had Thanksgiving dinner with a couple "Bob" and "Jane", and then found out a few weeks later, that Jane was dead - stabbed repeatedly by Bob. He's not even in jail now I think. It's horrible.

― Kim, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, not any murderers but a murderee, if that's, er, right. A kid I knew at primary school was murdered by his own dad along with his mum and the rest of his family. Aforementioned man of the house promptly hung himself, and then the whole tableau was discovered by a kid from next-door. There was almost a subsequent murder when the local press (the Ilford Recorder, Jesus, what a shower they are) turned up to the local school to interview schoolmates of the deceased, accidentaly tried to get some dirt from the late kid's BEST FRIEND, and on top of that got his name wrong. Gah.

― DG, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

2 suicides, 4 rapes, 3 aggraveted assults, one attempted murder but no murders/manslaughters

― anthony, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

stevo, could you elaborate on the bradford murder? (my home town y'see)

― gareth, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

and, if we're adding in suicides, i lad i know killed himself with a crossbow after a police siege (they thought he had a hostage so they handled it that way quite probably forcing the issue)

― gareth, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

gareth: as I understood (+ its all 2nd hand) a group of lads from Huddersfield, with whom I went to school, used to go clubing in Bradford in the late '80s. One evening there was a mass brawl with a group from Leeds, during which someone got knifed, and died of his injuries. What may, or may not, have been significant was the Leeds lot were apparently white, + the Huddersfield lads black. Mail me if you want the name of the lad found guilty.

― stevo, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Where I grew up, the girl across the street killed an elderly man w/ a gun, beheaded him, then threw a party at his house, where she took people to the back shed to show them the head.

That was when I was 19 and at college already, but she used to pick on me when I was little and I didn't like her very much.

― marianna, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jesus. I can't believe we collectively know so many murderers. Fortunately, I can only add a manslaughter to the tally: a friends brother who ran his car into the wall when his best friend was sitting on the bonnet.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't know any and will clearly have to start hanging out in less salubrious areas. Though a (now ex) friend of my parents shot at her hubby but failed to do any lasting damage. My parents now have their ice cream machine.

― Emma, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Emma:

Move to suburban/rural Minnesota. (The great irony is that my home town is an area that white urban professionals were moving to because they didn't want to raise their kids in the "dangerous" Twin Cities. For some reason, it seemed logical to move from the centers of culture and entertainment to a place where there is literally NOTHING to do besides drink, have sex, or leave. Teenage boredom leads to death, I'm convinced.)

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I know. Plus evertone knows everyone else so the murders that do happen in the hinterland become much more personal.

― anthony, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Seeing as my school was large enough for me to have gone to it at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME was Tim B**th from James w/o knowing that till abt a month ago, chances are ans = yes, surely. But that I know about, or even live across the road from?
No: closest = [c] who got drunk and crashed the car with himn and his best friend [d] in it when they were 17 (and I was 14): [d] (who was sober) died instantly, [c] was thrown clear and survived.
Suicides: three that come straight to mind. One from school, a guy I knew a little and didn't like, because — being extremely unahppy — he was often horrible to people younger than himself. He tried several times in more and more baroque ways (one unsuccessful = cutting his wrists with an old-fashioned razor then throwing himself in the river — except he was so drunk he missed his arteries and the river!) until of course he succeeded, but loafter he had been asked to leave the school. Other two = suicide pact of my absolutely best friend from college and his girlfriend, 14 years ago now. Which has left me v.unreasonably impatient and intolerant of suicide, of course — a self-centred and extremely hostile act. It was aimed at their respective parents, who were of course not ogres at all, just confused people struggling along and ABSOLUTELY AND UTTERLY DESOLATE AND DEVASTATED. I have now reminded myself of R's sister, crying at the crematorium in Mortlake, and had better close this post or will start crying myself.

― mark s, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh yes, the outer ringpiece of TC suburbs. My dad moved to a development in Eagan called Rivergate that even my downmarket little sister called River Ghetto. Just e-e-evil. Safe? Safe? Does the name Jordan, Minnesota ring any bells with Big Black fans? Actually the only danger inherent in living in St Louis Park, where I'm from, was getting Jew-bashed by rich, thick Edina hockey/football players.

On topic: if you call doping an old woman (my gran) into submission who has just inherited millions from a cousin, telling everyone you think it's Alzheimer's, then starving her and alienating her from anyone who cares about her until she gets pneumonia and dies weighing 86lbs/6 stone = murder than yes indeedy I do, especially combined with a dodgy will leaving it to her tormentor. The coroner thought so too, but the investigation was stonewalled by local cops who didn't want a scandal. Which is why all PC bets are off whenever I even think of the FAT BITCH WHORE who married my dad when I was 14.

― suzy, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Are we just a weird segment of the population (ie, strange people with convoluted lives are drawn to a place like ILE) or is the vast quantity of everyday life far weirder and more dramatic than the homogenised world of soap operas ever dreamed of?

I mean, I'm not being rude, but it just seems like most people on this board have been living these dark, weird, twisted lives. It's getting to the point where I am no longer really surprised or shocked by anything that anyone says because everyone seems to have fucked up, twisted, awful lives where weird and terrible things happen all the time.

Are there really any people OUT THERE who have had the perfect, cookie cutter lives where their biggest problem was having a pimple on prom night? Do they really exist, or is TV just making them up?

― masonic boom, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I killed someone once, by mistake. Got away with it too (except for the obvious guilt thing). Cannot elaborate.

― chris, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

TV is just making them up, Kate. Although in all honesty, much of the tragedy I've seen has been on the periphery of my life, not the center. Only the death of my oldest brother was a real tragedy. (Hit by a truck when he was 24... I'm now 4 years older than he ever got to be. That's sobering.)

Suzy: YIKES. I'm glad my dad dind't let my mom talk him into moving to Eagan! She was really hot on the idea, but the family collectively said, "NO!" She has since agreed that that was the correct choice. (Better to live near idiots than the malevonlent, sez I, even though I HATE idiots.)

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, people who make art/write books/have non-conformist attitudes have them for a reason, ie. LIFE ISN'T SIMPLE. I'd say a good 90 per cent of people in privileged cultures go through life without much happening to them outside of medical stuff. I don't really ever ask why me about stuff like this, or whatever other weird shit happens to/ around me. It helps knowing that unlike a lot of other writer types, I have the express blessing of my family (mum, sister) to tell these stories, preferably in bestselling print runs.

― suzy, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Aargghhh! A pimple on my chin! And tonight's the Junior Prom! What will Chuck say!

― Emma, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

when i was young my mum had stopped shopping at the local newsagents because the man behind the counter kept calling her "red nose". a couple of months later he murdered his wife.

― kevan, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I mean, I'm not being rude, but it just seems like most people on this board have been living these dark, weird, twisted lives. It's getting to the point where I am no longer really surprised or shocked by anything that anyone says because everyone seems to have fucked up, twisted, awful lives where weird and terrible things happen all the time.

Are there really any people OUT THERE who have had the perfect, cookie cutter lives where their biggest problem was having a pimple on prom night? Do they really exist, or is TV just making them up?

*puts up hand*. It's like Brookside fucking Close round here!

― Nick, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

older than the dead: it gets stranger, that. c&d that I mentioned — to me they will always be BIG FIERCE MEN (tho actually c is as far as i know still living and d was a sweetheart: but they were just kids...)
I have — untouched, almost never played — my Great Great Aunt Minnie's violin. She died of TB aged 14 in 189x.

― mark s, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

On the original topic at hand, I just realised that I do know a murderer, as well as the attempted murderer that you all know. In my high school (very posh, very upper middle class, private boarding school) everything was the picture of normality and upper middle class affluence and suburban loveliness and privilege and no one ever had any problems worse than getting a pimple on prom night, until one day when I was a freshman, the most popular girl in the senior class, prom queen, valedictorian and all that... just up and shot her father. Turns out that he'd been sexually abusing her since she hit puberty, and had just started on her younger sister. (I think that was the story... it was nearly 20 years ago...)

I know it's a cliche of Blue Velvet proportions that the nicest places hide the sickest secrets, but that sort of things just makes me wonder if *anyone* has a cookie cutter life, or if everyone is rife with corruption and nastiness, and some people just hide it better than others.

― masonic boom, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

People are often suprised at my true personality when I reveal it to them, under my usualy "nice normal guy" appreance and manner. However, I am not homicidal. I often worry about being attacked though.

― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I know it's a cliche of Blue Velvet proportions that the nicest places hide the sickest secrets, but that sort of things just makes me wonder if *anyone* has a cookie cutter life, or if everyone is rife with corruption and nastiness, and some people just hide it better than others.

Right here. Seriously. Grew up in a happy stable home. All relatives good people. No murders, no abuse, no horror stories about myself or anyone in my family. Premature death has not stalked my friends. *shrug* I consider myself extremely lucky in that regard, I can't really boast about it, but there it is. Chels once bemusedly called me 'the golden California boy' as a result.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I always thought California was the decadent vestigal of amercan culture.

― anthony, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, yes. Sun beats down so hard around here all we can do is pout and be famous. *does so*

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think cailfornia as a trope is fascanitnig.

― anthony, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is why I think California is so DEEPLY philosophically unsound.

Nothing so... healthy... could POSSIBLY be normal.

― Kate the Saint, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I loved living in California because it seemed like I was getting a look at the future of civilisation before any else got to see it. (Not even native Californians, as they were too far 'in' it).

― tarden, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I know one, he's the son of a friend of mine, last year or the year before he beat a girl to death behind a nightclub, it made the national news. I know it's what they say in the movies etc but he was a nice quiet lad, and always very pleasant. Shocked me to the core. Apparently he was off his head on something.

― cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...
actually i have a cousin who is in prison for murder.

― di, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A guy I knew when I was very young killed his wife with a crowbar. He was a lawyer so I reckon he enjoyed his 20 years in gaol.

― toraneko, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't know any murders on a personal level. But I have met a couple. It is quite ridiculous that I was so scared the last time. As a friend once commented: there is a murderer in everyone. You just need to have the right elements to trigger the deed.

― Helen Fordsdale, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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― Mike Hanle y, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

seven years pass...

oh honestly, ATTEMPTED murder?! do they give a nobel prize for ATTEMPTED chemistry?

― ethan, Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― silkk the s1ocki (and what), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 09:28 (seventeen years ago)

Do veterans count?

― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

A man who lived two streets away from us strangled his wife and then shot her. He claimed he'd received the order to kill her from the family dog but really he was just cheating on her with the organist at their church.

― Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:33 (seventeen years ago)

my babysitter killed two of her young kids in separate incidents.

― Redknapp out (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

There was a murder in a block of flats near where I grew up. We were coming back from a summer holiday at the time, and as we were driving back towards our house, we saw police everywhere near the building, including a large police van which helpfully had "Murder Van" written on the side.

― snoball, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:25 (seventeen years ago)

that has absolutely nothing to do with the question

― claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

i only know one in a Kevin Bacon-esque kind of way. the boyfriend of the sister of a friend of my sister, threw somebody from a balcony, he's in jail now, though not for murder (and not very long either, maybe 1 or 2 years)

― Ludo, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)

The church "organist".

― яσσʍ♭ⱥȵℹҁᔔ ᴗȵȴℹʍℹȶ∊∂ (libcrypt), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

Guy I went to school with and was good friends at times punched some dude who then fell over and smacked his head off the kerb, dying shortly afterwards. Not sure if he ever went to jail for it as it was towards the end of school, I think maybe he got off somehow.

Guy I would know to see from where I grew up in Dublin beat up some bloke for no reason with a gang of friends and had him on a life support. The guy survived without any brain damage which I think again may have saved this bloke's bacon, jailwise. He was a real asshole anytime I encountered him so it didn't seem surprising. The Irish tabloids had a headline about the story I liked. "RICH GOUGERS NOW OUR BIGGEST FEAR".

A guy who was in my brother's year in school told me this amazing story recently when I bumped into him in London. He said he was at home in his flat in Dublin when there was a knock at the door and it was this other guy they went to school with, whom he hadn't seen in years.

This guy got maximum points in his final school exams and was a fairly quiet genial sort of bloke. He asked if he could come in and use their phone and have a shower etc as he was in some trouble. So they were a bit weirded out but they let him in.

About 20 mins later he was in the shower and the police called and said he was wanted for holding up a load of shops with a gun. He had climbed out the bathroom window in the meantime and escaped! So weird..apparently was a drug addict.

― Local Garda, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

Do veterans count?

How many have you killed?

― da cryypiä (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

kid I used to shoot hoops with over lunch break in high school took a claw hammer to a dude's skull.

― that karate douche (╓abies), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

does attempted suicide count?

― o_O (ken c), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:31 (seventeen years ago)

Just one guy I was at school with - some sort of gangland revenge killing thing, it was in the local news but I'm not sure it ever went national. He threw the gun in a bin near the crime scene, so not the smartest fucker ever. If I'd had to think of five people from my year who might have been sent down for murder, I don't think he'd have been among them, and I would probably have accepted his Facebook invitation had he turned up there.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

oh yeah and a roommate from years back stabbed a guy. he didn't die though.

― that karate douche (╓abies), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

bo-ring

― that karate douche (╓abies), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

i watched a show on famous murders last night and learned that if you kill your family then go party for awhile and then come home and call 911 youll get life. however, if you strangle someone within an inch of death and then pretend to be resuscitating them when the cops arrive you'll get about 3 years. another alternative is if the person is high, make sure you get some bruises from them before you shoot them and you'll get off altogether.

for people i know, no murders but within a few years after leaving high school it seemed like half our class had been either killed or crippled in one way or another. the rest of us live in other countries.

― choomette (sunny successor), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

dude i was in college with had a twin brother--both weird, both mean--and they were partying in new orleans during mardi gras and got invited up to party with some guy in an apartment. dude claims they stabbed the guy and left. don't know why. he could've been lying, but at the time it seemed possible. he was a creep.

― andrew m., Tuesday, 30 December 2008 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

This dude and I attended church camp together a couple of years, and his senior prom date's best friend was my future wife. (I didn't know her at the time, but best friend and I went to the same college, too.) At the time he committed his offense -- which was shotgunning his parents to death in their bed -- he and I had classes together at college. The morning after the offense, he was in class, chipper as ever, and talking to me about all his activities the night before; i.e., establishing an alibi. I found out about his arrest that night on the news.

― ^likes tilt-a-whirls (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

Wow! Did you have to talk to the police or anything?

― she is living in an auto tune (kingkongvsgodzilla), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

maybe it wasn't him

― Redknapp out (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

I said this in the 'miniature family anecdotes' thread, but my dad is related to serial killer Aileen Wournos and saved her life when she was a toddler.

There was one guy in my class at school who was totally quiet, moved there in the middle of 10th grade, didn't know anybody, and was only around for like a year. He had a majestic feathered mullet and always carried a plastic comb in his back jeans pocket. We referred to him as "I Think It's Time...To Brush" because he'd randomly stop in the hall and have to feather his hair all the time. A couple years after he dropped out or vanished, he stabbed or shot his uncle and got picked up hitchhiking about on the highway not far from town.

― a better command of the mummy language (joygoat), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

We didn't refer to him that way openly or to his face at all lest anyone think it drove him to murder.

― a better command of the mummy language (joygoat), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

xxxp no, it never got that far -- the evidence that he actually committed the killing (fingerprints, movements, etc.) was pretty rock solid against him, so an alibi never came into question. He did allege abuse, but the jury never bought it.

― ^likes tilt-a-whirls (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

saving a serial killer's life, driving a guy to kill an uncle... that's some track record your family has dude xp

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

Three. Two vehicular style (one more malevolent, the other an honestly stupid fucking idiotic tragedy), and I knew this guy who used to buy weed from my friend. He would always roll these big ol blunts and share and hang out, and then he disappeared for a while....month later, cop cars and SWAT vans are crowding near the edge of town, and we find out that some dude is hiding in a barn, shooting at the 24-hour gas station. He kills one dude, then kills himself just as the SWAT is moving in....turns out blunt-man had a schizophrenic break, escaped from the local hospital's mental ward, and went on a killing spree. Crazy.

― the table is the table, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

Who was it who saved Aileen Wuornos from drowning?

― the table is the table, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

Not personally but one of my best friends was bullied in school by this guy who, he and some other guy, followed a man up to his apartment I guess under the pretense of sex and then beat him to death and robbed the place. The victim was a quite famous tv personality so it got a lot of coverage in the news, I just recently found out about the connection though. Weird!

― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

A couple years after he dropped out or vanished, he brushed his uncle to death and got picked up hitchhiking about on the highway not far from town.

― ❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

what is the name of the quite famous tv personality btw

― ❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

well you probably wouldn't know since he was on this swedish show about antiques called Antikrundan. if you really wanna know I have to look it up myself... but I swear it was a big deal!

― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

antiques swede show

― ❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:15 (seventeen years ago)

My dad saved the drowning Aileen Wournos, but she was his second cousin and four years old at the time.

The other dude I mentioned was not a relative at all, I never even spoke to him - just a guy who was in my high school for a while.

― a better command of the mummy language (joygoat), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:16 (seventeen years ago)

SOMEONE KILLED THE ANTIKRUNDAN GUY!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

sloki has a bergère he needs appraised bad

― ❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

it had to be him he was the only one i trusted

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:38 (seventeen years ago)

My state has an online judiciary case search. I plugged in the names of everybody from my past who I thought capable of homicide. The most likely candidate had been charged with "Deadly Weapon - Intent to Injure". Give him a few more years, I guess.

― she is living in an auto tune (kingkongvsgodzilla), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:06 (seventeen years ago)

just the one kid who killed someone while driving drunk (i was friends with his older brother in high school)

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

I know a "private defense contractor" who works in Iraq, seems a pretty safe bet he's blown some people away.

― ┃♜ฺ│♞ฺ│♝ฺ│♛ฺ│♚ฺ│♝ฺ│♞ฺ│♜ฺ┃ (dan m), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

One person, who ran someone over in a drug deal gone awry (although it, convincingly so, turned out to be more along the lines of a pretty sad accident when trying to escape from being attacking him.

― Girlfriend, you've been scooped like ice cream (mehlt), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:54 (seventeen years ago)

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Who was it who saved Aileen Wuornos from drowning?

It was the father of the rad ILXor from the Palouse – I am so embarrassed I forget his name but it will come to me. Joygoat. That's it.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

There are ex-gang members I know who used to live in my neighbs who have killed people but how fucking boring is that?

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

I guy I knew in high school was murdered during a drug deal gone wrong. Guess that doesn't count though.
Guy I used to know is probably still in jail for rape. He followed a stranger home and broke into her apartment. Not murder but horrifying none the less.

― Super Cub, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 10:33 (seventeen years ago)

"A guy" that is.

― Super Cub, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 10:33 (seventeen years ago)

Just the one, i used to work with a guy who went down for manslaughter.
He was in a pub fight over a darts game and smashed a cast iron table over a guys head and killed him.
Apart from his temper, he was quite an ok guy.

― not_goodwin, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:08 (seventeen years ago)

"does attempted suicide count?"

Well that would mean I have to list about half of my ex-girlfriends.

― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 11:10 (seventeen years ago)

I’d worry if half my girlfriends tried to kill themselves...

― not_goodwin, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 12:59 (seventeen years ago)

Oh well the majority attempted it before we dated. It's cool.

― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 13:52 (seventeen years ago)

I know a guy who killed someone. I think he did about seven years, then was paroled.

I knew another guy who killed someone, before the killing: a friend from high school later had some severe mental-health issues, wound up stabbing a priest to death, and was put in an institution. (There wasn't much legal question about this; it was a totally unmedicated dissociative/schizophrenic "the voices told me I had to do it" situation.)

I probably know someone else who's killed someone, but I wouldn't know who. But you figure there's someone. Probably several.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

Also there's Ned

― nabisco, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

Ned, why did you have it in for the priest?

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:27 (seventeen years ago)

I probably know someone else who's killed someone, but I wouldn't know who.

If they were a successful murderer, you probably wouldn't!

― she is living in an auto tune (kingkongvsgodzilla), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

i knew Abe, i was good friends with his brother. We smoked weed a couple days before in the back yard where they buried this kid.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~froomkin/texts/370.html

INTERESTS: Acosta was well-known around campus for wearing large,
flamboyant hats, baggy vintage clothing and oversized shoes, all
popular in the "rave" scene.

― carne asada, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 20:01 (seventeen years ago)

That is an awful story.

I don't think I know any murderers, it's kind of like Nabisco says: I probably know someone else who's killed someone, but I wouldn't know who. But you figure there's someone. Probably several.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

yeah it was pretty horrible. He was a good kid that got mixed up with some really bad people.

― carne asada, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 20:18 (seventeen years ago)

Just one convicted and one unconvicted perpetrator of negligent homocide in the immediate family.

― derelict, Friday, 2 January 2009 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

Three. One fairly notorious murderer, in jail, who was my tutor at university (I've mentioned this before), one guy who I had some dealings with in my previous work, and one other guy that I am going into no details about at all, but he had his reasons and he's done his time.

― ailsa, Friday, 2 January 2009 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

Someone on my course during my first year at university was wanted for murder. Class of over a hundred students, so I only spoke to him once. He hardly ever turned up for lectures anyway. Then after a month he never bothered to turn up at all, then soon after we found out why via TV news - the police of five European countries were out looking for him because he was chief suspect in a murder inquiry.

― snoball, Friday, 2 January 2009 19:06 (seventeen years ago)


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