animal para-linguistics

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ok i just spent the evening with my top fwend Dr Vick the Qualified Lacanian and she has a question for youse all. Esp.actually the non-anglic ILE-ers tho all can join in. WHAT DO ANIMALS SAY IN OTHER LANGUAGES? eg brit/USA dogs say "woof woof" and cats "meow" but what do Chinese dogs/cats say? Peruvian cockerels? Maori cows?

mark s, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dutch frogs say QUACK!!

(actually d'oh i forgot to check how to spell that so it might kwak or something: OMAR to thread!!)

But also Nath, Sundar, Kodanshi, Kris, Nitsuh, Honda, youn, N., Emma's mom...

mark s, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Qui Qui Ri Qui says the Spanish rooster.

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chinese cats say Mao.

Maria, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This may be a post of staggering obviousness, but there's always Aristophanes' frogs and their "brekekekex koax koax". (I have been misquoting that for years and have only just bothered to look up the correct spelling, as well...)

It appears that Finnish cats say "naukua". Er, oh no, that's a verb. They don't say it at all, they just do it. Or something. And I can't find my Finnish comic. *weep*

Rebecca, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

moreporks say morepork

ducklingmonster, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

German pigs say "nuff nuff"... Chinese frogs say "gao gao" (pronounced to rhyme with "wow! wow!")... Hmmm, there are some fucking HILARIOUS rooster ones in other langs that I seem to have forgotten.

Clarke B., Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

not sure, but i know when one knocks on a door, it's tock tock tock...in argentina....cos they don't have the kn sound i guess...

goeff, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

French frogs say ribbit! ribbit!

Gale Deslongchamps, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, it's not like frogs speak French! er.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Scottish squirrels quack and hiss, Canadian seagulls make mentalist noises when you feed them cheese.

Jonnie, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

On a field trip to the zoo I once witnessed a kid lure a big canada goose to him with popcorn, only to punch it in the head then promptly get yanked up and away by the ear by our teacher. Good times.

Teenage filipino bears say, "I'm saving up so I can get my paws chromed out!"

*JUST KIDDING* ::ducks::

Ramosi, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hein?

Tim, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hin???

chris, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

blimey this is a bit feeble - or is the question not very clear?

Brit cockerel: "cock-a-doodle-do!"
Spanish cockerel: "Qui Qui Ri Qui!" (thanks Brian, you didn't "have a farm" in days of yore by any chance?)
Greek cockerel: ????
Korean cockerel: ???

Rebecca that is PRECISELY what I wanted, thank you. Do English, Dutch, French and Ancient Greek frogs say exactly the same thing and we WRITE it ifferently, or the same-ish thing but they PRONOUNCE it differently, or DIFFERET THINGS because animals too have different regional tongues?

mark s, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember reading somewhere once that birdsongs take on regional accents so a Cockney Sparrer would sound different from a Yorkshire Sparrow f'rinstance. I am not sure if this is true as on reflection it sounds ridiculous.

Emma, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Joycean cats say 'Mrkgnao!'

Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think I told you that Emma, but I heard it from a very reliable source I think. I think white dof poo was an indication of national differences, but I think the bureauraucrats at Brussels passed a law standardising dog poo or something.

I think the Supersense program ages ago said something about bird accents being a key way of them recognising their flock if they get lost.

Pete, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No it wasn't you Pete (well it might've been but I've definitely heard it elsewhere) so there is a chance that it might be true.

Emma, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bullets make different sounds in different languages and yet have no language themselves. Does that help?

Tom, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No Tom as it is blatantly organo-centrist not to say robotist... the SOUNDS that BULLETS MAKE are the LANGUAGE THEY SPEAK.

eg UK GUN: "Bang!"
BELGIAN GUN: "Pan!" or (sometimes) "Crac!"

mark s, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Korean dogs say 'mung-mung'. There's more here. But where will this lead?!?! What will Dr. Vick have to say about it?

youn, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dr Vick wishes to OVERTHROW the absurd lie that constitutes the FIRST TWO SENTENCES of an otherwise invaluable site, youn: "Animals make much the same sounds around the world, but each language expresses them differently. English and French cows sound the same, but not in English and French!" Excuse has the person who wrote this read any of the other pages? English dog = "bow wow" + Korean dog = "mung mung" => they are SAYING DIFFERENT WORDS!! Why is it such a problem to even CONSIDER this?

More evidence from ILx poster please, esp. if not yet gathered by the Georgetown ideologues...

mark s, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

DIfferent dog species make different noises too. What is this ideal dog we are talking about.

For a Bullfrog to understand what an Amazonian Leaf Frog was saying would surely be the same as me understanding what Chimpanzee was saying. And if I could talk to the animals - what a great thing that would be.

Pete, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dutch animals, they say:

Dogs: 'woef, woef'
Cats: 'miauw'
Cows: 'boe'
Chickens: 'tok'
Cockerels: 'kukeleku'
Frogs: 'kwak'
Mice 'piep'
Ducks 'kwaak'
pigs 'knor'
Small Birds 'tsilp'

stevo, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the Dutch have got this thing sussed.

N., Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(pete if dog A and dog B are difft species to one another then either A or B is trying yr animal passport fraud stunt, ie NOT A DOG)

thank you stevo

mark s, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are different breads different species. Hmm. How much genetic similarity is their betwixt a scottie & a doberman - and how does that compare humna vs chimpanzee.

That said I ditch Biology at 12 so this is just a-wondering.

Pete, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(technical defn: species boundary = you can't breed across it successfully)

mark s, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Define 'successfully'

N., Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

chicken bear

mark s, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, Mark - I can't help you with Gujarati versions. I could ask my dad but he's probably forgotten.

N., Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Have hazy memory from school text book that French cockerels go "Coquerico" but that may be complete bollocks

David, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know any Ethiopian animal sounds. I was, however, repeatedly reminded by my third-grade classmates that the Ethiopian chicken is the fastest animal on Earth. So I suppose the sound it makes would be some sort of Doppler-blur. Also it's supposedly impossible to tell how many Ethiopians fit in a bathtub, as we keep slipping down the drain.

Nitsuh, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wait: I seem to remember dogs maybe saying something like "wirfwirf." But that sounds way different with the proper accent.

Nitsuh, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

Polish dogs say how how.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

Like ZZ Top and John Lee Hooker?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

German roosters kikeriki.
German cuckoo kuckuck.
German parrots krächzen.

patita, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

Finnish ones...

Dog: Hau hau!
Cat: Miau!
Bird: Tsirp tsirp!
Hen: Kotkot!
Cow: Ammuu!
Horse: Ihahaa!
Rooster: Kukkokiekuu!
Sheep: Bää!
Duck: Kvaak kvaak!
Cuckoo: Kukkuu!

Tuomas, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

Japanese:

Dog - Won! Won!
Cat - Neow
Rooster - Kok kok ko key ko (or something like that)
Frog - Kero Kero

fritz, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

finnish & japanese roosters have been hanging out!

fritz, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

Seems like that. Though in Finnish "a rooster" = "kukko", and the verb for the sound he makes = "kiekuu". I dunno if the two words are based on the onomatopoetics, or the other way around.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au/Personal/dabbott/animal.html
look what i found on the google!

Maria, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

the British croak is prolly closer than the American ribbit for frogs *in general* - there is one particular species of frog that goes 'ribbit' (can't remember which, it lives in California I think)

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 6 September 2007 09:18 (eighteen years ago)

This was the upshot of the original research by the way:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1231170,00.html

Pete, Thursday, 6 September 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

Rooster: Kukkokiekuu

Wasn't he the 1983 world rally champion?

Mark C, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

Japanese:

Dog - Won! Won!
Cat - Neow
Rooster - Kok kok ko key ko (or something like that)
Frog - Kero Kero

-- fritz, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 17:58 (2 days ago)

for dog i hear it more as "wan wan" but for cat it's definitely more "nyan nyan".

Steve Shasta, Thursday, 6 September 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man, Maria, that page is great!

GERMAN:

Dog (gnawing bone) - chrong
Dog (drinking) - schlapp schlapp

HUNGARIAN:

Dog (drinking) - lefety lefety
Dog (biting) - gnam
Cat purring - doromb

Abbott, Thursday, 6 September 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

lefety lefety

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 6 September 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

fuck you static ILX handles!

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 6 September 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

I would really love to see a comic panel of a dog biting a man illustrated with a big bubble-letters GNAM!

Abbott, Thursday, 6 September 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

grumph, baraag, peent, troat

According to Maria's link those are the sounds made by a camel ('nuzzing', of course), an elephant trumpeting, a woodcock, and a deer...*in English*. I can guarantee I've never made those sounds. Mind you, with the exception of the elephant, I haven't felt the need to impersonate those animals.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 6 September 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

This is the best I can write the word I say when I imitate an elephant sound:

FrrrrnNEEEEERummmmm

Abbott, Thursday, 6 September 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's more like bbbrrrraiaoaoaoaaoaorr. Just to clarify my earlier comments: I don't think I've ever felt the *need* to impersonate an elephant, more just a strong and occasional desire.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 7 September 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

In French

Dog: ouaf ouaf
Cat: Miaou!
Bird: cui cui
Hen: cot cot codek
Cow: meuuuuuuuuuuuuh!
Rooster: cocorico!
Sheep: meeeeh!
Duck: coin coin!
Cuckoo: coucou!
Donkey : hi han

Jibe, Friday, 7 September 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

What does a nuzzing camel say in French?

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 7 September 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

I'm off to the zoo then, because inquiring minds WANT to know.

PS : what is nuzzing?

Jibe, Friday, 7 September 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)


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