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Two fairly smart and NY media-saavy friends of mine referred to it as the "best magazine in New York" last night. I was sort of surprised - my parents subscribed to it back when I lived at home (they always thought of themselves as "NYC transplants" living in DC), and my impression of it was that it was mostly scare stories about rich, drug-dealing elementary school kids. That was years ago so maybe it's gotten better, but when I pick it up and glance through it it always strikes me as so much lifestyle porn with an occasional interesting feature (but even the *serious* features seem like they have to have a touch of, uh, sauciness).

Am I missing something or am I just hopelessly disconnected with the NYC media culture?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 5 August 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Edelstein's movie reviews are classic, I've never looked at the rest of the magazine/website.

milo z (mlp), Saturday, 5 August 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I do like Edelstein - I hear him on NPR and in spite of dorxor voice he has great punchlines.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 5 August 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

'best magazine in new york' seems a bit much. 'best magazine in new york (during the sixties)' maybe.

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 5 August 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

maybe "best magazine called New York"

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

er

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe my two friends are just more into the celebrity-product-gossip nexus than I am.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

most reliable for food reviews (which are online), plus it usually has one decent columnist at any given time (who isn't worth the subscription alone). otherwise, you're not missing anything.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

edelstein has been annoying me since he wrote for the Voice in the 80s, but he is better than david denby who used to be the New York film critic (damning with faint praise)

darn, i can't find that classic New York cover from the 80s "Are You A Yuppie?"

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

edelstein is okay. denby blows. new york ain't what it used to be. but maybe New York ain't what it used to be? i do heart New York. new york is okay for free in a doctor's office. on the table. that i swipe to read on my dinner break at the hospital. new yorker is best. and worth money. don't listen to me though. i also scan party picture shots in Gotham on break as well.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

I used to like the humor competition in the back they used to have.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

mommy ilx

W i l l (common_person), Sunday, 6 August 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

book collection of Kyle Baker's Bad Publicity plz

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 6 August 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's fun but I just let my subscription run out...too expensive and not nearly vital enough + most all content available online. I really like their "In Season" recipe.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 6 August 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

I think NY has actually gotten better over the last year or so but I'm not sure what I could point to as proof. Its cockiness feels more earned somehow.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 August 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

i actually bought the last issue for cheap eats + lieberman + NYT-less subway ride

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 6 August 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

we got a years subscription a few years back for like $7 so what the hey. wound up reading the restaurant reviews and the occasional kurt anderson media column and that's about it. the cover stories/trend pieces tend to be ridiculous IMO, guazy conceits stretched thin over a few thousand words, "the new wave of wahtever" really beyond pardody. i liked edelstein better back in the voice & the post, but that's more about my problems w/film criticism in general than him. new york had one good feature writer then whose name escapes me, vanessa something? anyway we let the subscription lapse and went back to looking at the food stuff online.

has this magazine EVER had even decent music coverage?

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

they have music coverage?

oh and I like jim cramer's column too. The food writing is lovely but since I never get to eat in new york it's kind of self-torture. I also like the ridiculousness of the cover stories, it's like eating a whole pie.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

i can't live without the NYT wed. food section. i swear its my favorite thing in the paper. new york always had good food stuff. i dig gael greene. i can live without it though. i'm just really big on frank bruni these days. is there a good food critic/writer thread on ilx? i'll have to search.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Sietsema is my go-to food writer though. He seems like about the only person who doesn't fall back on "lacks atmosphere" to mean "no posh lighting"

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

New York Magazine isn't bad, but a long time ago it was much better. Much like Esquire, it used to allow writers to stretch out a lot. Now it's short and the writing is hit or miss.

I still think The New Yorker is the best New York mag. It isn't nearly as good as it used to be, but it is still a hell of a mag and the only one that'll give a writer 40,000 words.

Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
This week's actually has a couple of possibly great articles - McGreevey's confessions and the one about the rash of arsons. I started the first one - he's a surprisingly good writer for a politician, though I'm hoping he gets more into the dirt of NJ politics and doesn't just stick with all this secret garden of sexuality stuff.

The latter is what seems really interesting though - maybe because the magazine is usually so blinded by the bling that it's refreshing to see something about bling's dark underbelly.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://nymag.com/news/features/42595/

I stayed in his dorm room when I visited Princeton (confirming that it was decidedly not for me even if I somehow got in). He is a v nice dude, but you could always tell that his head was somewhere beyond the hs world.

how many weeks since the Dalton kid who hangs out with models?

gabbneb, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

Jonathan Chait is a dickface

(nothing to do w. politics, obv)

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

Cover stories on Brooklyn Artisinal products and the "new" art market or w/e = kind of making shit worse by explaining it.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Saturday, 28 April 2012 05:25 (thirteen years ago)

kehinde wiley piece is very, very good.

i love this magazine, look forward to getting it in the mail every week.

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 28 April 2012 05:31 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

they are doing this thing of keeping their twitter feed active during evening hours by periodically linking to stories that were on the site in the morning & during the day & the intensity with which I'm finding this frustrating is surprising to me

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Saturday, 14 September 2013 02:42 (twelve years ago)

five months pass...

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/02/i-crashed-a-wall-street-secret-society.html

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:34 (eleven years ago)

Also good:
http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/02/why-abercrombie-is-losing-its-shirt.html

That's So (Eazy), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 18:28 (eleven years ago)

ten years pass...

https://www.thecut.com/article/age-gap-relationships-marriage-younger-women-older-man.html

this is an incredible essay (and stirs very complicated feelings!)

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 17:55 (one year ago)

Thought this bump would be about the Huberman article.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 18:11 (one year ago)

that’s on my list to read but I had never heard of the guy before and it doesn’t sound very interesting. macho guy treats women badly

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 18:25 (one year ago)

I thought it was interesting given his popularity and the content its based on (which is essentially all about control). My wife got really into his podcast.

(no offense but I did not think that age gap essay was very good at all)

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 18:33 (one year ago)

for what it’s worth, I didn’t mean incredible as in “righteous”, let alone learned — but I found it disarmingly perspicacious in a sort of twisted way. it’s an essay written by a woman who met her older husband when she was 19 and really into “Lolita”, after all. there’s a naive blissfulness to it and to her that toes the line between beauty and almost evil in a riveting way.

the editing of the essay I found a bit strange, the prose of the first several paragraphs is pretty excruciating and I almost closed the tab a couple of times. that does get significantly better as it goes on I think

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 18:43 (one year ago)

There are days (today for example) when the idea of multitudes of thinkpieces in the media, all of them dissecting every aspect of life as a dire social problem that must be solved, makes me feel very sad for the world. The more we struggle, the more tangled up we get.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 18:56 (one year ago)

I couldn’t get past the first paragraphs. I was interested in the subject cause my wife is 14 years younger than me but we met as peers at work when she was 32. This 19 year old going to the business school library to snag a rich boyfriend is not equivalent to my experience. Also 29 is not that old, at that age cis het men are practically still teenagers, emotionally and mentally.

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 19:00 (one year ago)

Ok I see that, there was a vulnerability to it that felt unintentional.

xp the 'rich' was probably the most important element in that essay, seemed like she was implying all men over 30 have money to go to Europe, have multiple domiciles, lol.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 19:05 (one year ago)

When I was 20 and a junior at Harvard College, a series of great ironies began to mock me. I could study all I wanted, prove myself as exceptional as I liked, and still my fiercest advantage remained so universal it deflated my other plans. My youth. The newness of my face and body. Compellingly effortless; cruelly fleeting. I shared it with the average, idle young woman shrugging down the street.

lmao at that last sentence, I didn't know the poor could travel via shrug

This is garden-variety classism disguised as bracing truth about gender. Absolute trash

rob, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 19:22 (one year ago)

I purchase scratch-offs, jackpot tickets, scraping the former with euro coins in restaurants too fine for that. I never cash them in, nor do I check the winning numbers. For I already won something like the lotto, with its gifts and its curses, when he married me.

This is the worst paragraph I’ve ever read.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 19:55 (one year ago)

there’s some great bits. “high breasts” will probably be burned into my mind forever now

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 19:59 (one year ago)

rob otm

budo jeru, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 20:02 (one year ago)

Wow.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 20:03 (one year ago)

k3v did you read this

https://www.thecut.com/article/age-gap-relationships-couples.html

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 20:04 (one year ago)

"Let Ivy League grads be publicly unstable in excruciating detail" is - I guess - the only viable strategy to save online media?

— Jack Wickham (@jawickham) March 27, 2024

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 20:09 (one year ago)

i clicked the cut article but had to stop here

Moss moped through her first trip to Paris that Christmas.

seriously, fuck all of these people

budo jeru, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 20:16 (one year ago)

k3v did you read this

https://www.thecut.com/article/age-gap-relationships-couples.html

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, March 27, 2024 4:04 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

no I think I meant to but forgot, will check it out

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 20:26 (one year ago)

oh I had read that actually. just reread it again, really good (I mean that genuinely this time!)

that said I do think the age gap is really a red herring in the story I posted: as rob points out, there are some pretty messed up class implications, not to mention her very regressive gender politics. as I said, what one might expect from someone who met their older when they were 19 and were really into lolita

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 21:10 (one year ago)

the prose in that age gap piece is on the same level as this I wonder sometimes if I am the victim of a malicious rumour

, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 21:14 (one year ago)

yeah k3vin, my post was a little too reductive; the depressingly binary gender politics are also super bleak, such a grim view of human intimacy.

It also reminded me of something I read the other day about the "stay-at-home girlfriend" social media trend getting an update as some of these women are ending up broke and CV-less when the relationship ends

rob, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 21:40 (one year ago)

yeah, I thought of the tradwife trend too

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 22:27 (one year ago)

The tradwife thing is such bullshit. I want Men's Health or GQ or somebody to do a deep dive, or a roundtable Q&A, or something, with the men who are married to the most famous tradwife women. What do they think? Are they allowed to? Because I feel like for all the submissiveness cosplay, these are some iron-willed women who have manifested powerful media brands. The men are as vestigial as male praying mantises. They're there to supply a paycheck: food, clothing, a giant pickup truck or two, but also ring lights and makeup and hair dye. And they're there to help create another kid every once in a while. But are they voting stockholders? I don't really think so. And as a man, I want to know what it's really like to be married to a person like this. Because I don't think I'd last a week.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 23:19 (one year ago)

read the huberman thing. more or less what I expected

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 23:37 (one year ago)

Not gonna read that but based on Twitter replies to anything about it he inherited the Jordan Peterson incel army.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 23:50 (one year ago)

it was a pretty good gossip read honestly. a sentence or two about how he’s a scientist with a lab that might or might not actually exist. then back to the main event: how six of his simultaneous ex girlfriends are best friends now

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 23:54 (one year ago)

i was seriously waiting for a paragraph about them all organizing to surprise him in the same place at the same time

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:08 (one year ago)

Ha, I had to stop reading the Huberman piece just because I found him so annoying as a character that I didn't want to hear about him anymore. I've listened to a few of his podcasts and thought they were pretty interesting but I can also totally see him in this science bro douchebag role. I think I'll go back to ignoring him.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 March 2024 03:13 (one year ago)

I could not read the other one at all. I feel like she's going for a tone but isn't sure what it is. Sub-Emily Gould.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 March 2024 03:15 (one year ago)


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