The next Tim Burton/Johnny Depp film will be...

(xpost: BOO U RUINED IT ;_:)

xpost sorry dang

PLEASE DO NOT GET ONE OF THE INTERCHANGEABLE POP PRINCESSES TO PLAY MRS LOVETT, K THANKS

yeah, I'd heard. So this has Brando-Guys & Dolls potential.

and one great one a long long time ago!

The composer himself will be auditioning the actor as he is afraid that Johnny Depp’s voice might lack the necessary strength need to perform such a role, his vocals may be "too rock 'n' roll". Depp has a previous appearance in the 1990 musical "Cry-Baby" and performed in a rock band called P.

A spokesman for Sondheim says: "He wants to make sure that all versions of his works are the best possible."

http://www.playfuls.com/news_0002013_Johnny_Depp_Tim_Burton_Get_Back_Together_for_Sweeney_Todd.html

Ooh, I do hope so.

yr pal,

the only latter-day Tim Burton fan

And of course, he didn't write the script.

Mars Attacks! is my favorite of his, and the script was essentially original despite the card set -- but then again, the misguided Planet of the Apes is based on nothing but the premise of its predecessors.

*shot of Ewan McGregor talking to hairy giant*
*shot of ape onslaught*
*Veruca Salt squirrel gangbang*

Ed Wood is kind of a weird exception due to all the overlapping layers of self-referentialism (its a bio of Ed Wood made in the style of an Ed Wood movie, etc.)

PLEASE DO NOT GET ONE OF THE INTERCHANGEABLE POP PRINCESSES TO PLAY MRS LOVETT, K THANKS

I would think Mrs. Lovett has to be played by an older-ish woman, as she and Sweeney Todd are roughly the same age and he has a teenage daughter. But hey, no reason they couldn't rope in Hilary Duff to play Johanna!

keira knightly as johanna - rofffleessss

(Don't have much to say about this new one.)

Your judgment is suspended until you have seen the whole thing.

Ed Wood > Pee-Wee > Beetlejuice > The Nightmare Before Christmas > Edward Scissorhands >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else except for maybe Corpse Bride which I haven't seen.

Ideal = Hugh Jackman / Sam Mendes (not because I like his movies, but because he has play-directing experience).

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I really love the Sweeny Todd so I suppose I should see this. His movies and fans just weigh down on me these days, more like Tim Burden hur hur.

There's a hair salon in Blackfoot, ID, called Sweeney Todd's.

Trailer, allegedly. I can't get it to load here at work.

Never mind, just go here on YouTube.

I'm getting a distinct Kenneth Branagh's Francis Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula: The Musical feeling about this.

that looks so very boring

this looks just like it should.

i'll watch it for alan rickman, anyway.

cutting from the score = missing the point

ugh. sweeney is a baritone role. from the little snippet of depp singing there, he is no baritone. therefore, he is no sweeney. also, i am of the opinion that mrs. lovett should be a fattey, not tim burton's wife.

Further hype/PR sludge:

"The blood explodes in only a few scenes of 'Sweeney,' but when it rains, it pours — in unbelievably graphic gouts of gushing red. I can’t remember when or if I ever saw this much red splashed across the screen in a mainstream studio movie."

yeah mainstream studios really shy away from gore and violence don't they

... crap
-- Dadaismus (a rattly old puffin who remembers ILX in the days when...) (Dada), Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:07 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

^^^

Depp seems to be playing Todd as 80's Dave Vanian.

I choose to believe the white streak is an homage to Dr. Clayton Forrester.

-- Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:43 (3 weeks ago) Link

haha

Further hype/PR sludge:

"The blood explodes in only a few scenes of 'Sweeney,' but when it rains, it pours — in unbelievably graphic gouts of gushing red. I can’t remember when or if I ever saw this much red splashed across the screen in a mainstream studio movie."
-- Ned Raggett, Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

yeah mainstream studios really shy away from gore and violence don't they

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

he's saying this one has more.

I eagerly await the s1ocki report on this.

more than what - more than Kill Bill Pt 1? More than Saw? More than Sleepy Hollow? Really who cares, what kind of yardstick is that to measure a movie by anyway.... I can't see this being anything other than unrepentantly awful.

the quote is meant to support the assertion that it's a horror movie.

chill out.

Caption this photo:

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-11/33928439.jpg

"The catering table...I want one of everything."

Also I think Jackman/Streep would have been a way better lead combo than Depp/Carter, at least based on the forced sound I hear in the trailers. Also note Depp's dogmatic avoidance of voice coaches: worrying.

Depp: Jesus, Timmy, is there any way you could decrease the saturation a little bit? My cheeks are betraying my potential pallor. MORE WAN, TIM!

Burton: Glararrrggghhh zombie George Harrison regrets perm!

I'm really hesitant on this movie.

First of all, Sweeney Todd is my favorite musical, probably ever. I've seen it to the point of being burnt out on it, but I loved the original staging (granted Len Cariou's version went on before I was born, but I've seen the dvd of the 1982 performance with George Hearn), and the reinvented version John Doyle put up in 2006.

But I just did not get a good feeling from the trailer. I think Depp is so WRONG for the part, and I don't think the typical Burton quirkiness is what this needs--the story is good enough on its own, thank you!

white hair streak = Sontag

"How do you solve a problem like a bloody, R-rated musical about a serial killer, starring movie actors who aren't professional singers?"

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/movies/la-ca-burton25nov25,0,3829032.story?coll=la-home-entertainment

John Logan, who wrote the screenplay, said he and Burton share "stunted childhoods watching Amicus movies," referring to the British company that in the 1960s and '70s produced films such as "Dr. Terror's House of Horrors" and "The House That Dripped Blood."

Here, that aesthetic gets married to Sondheim's music, re-recorded by a 78-piece orchestra. Even by Burton's standards for opening titles, the one for "Sweeney Todd" -- the Bernard Herrmann-esque overture booming as the camera takes a fetishistic tour of Todd and Lovett's killing machine -- is exhilarating.

Burton didn't want patches of dialogue interrupted by song, as is traditional. He cut the show's famous opening number, "The Ballad of Sweeney Todd." Why have a chorus singing about "attending the tale of Sweeney Todd" when you could just go ahead and attend it?

Sondheim had final approval of the cast, although Burton says the finicky composer mostly stayed out of the way.

"I had a lot more traffic with him than Tim realizes," said Zanuck, later hastening to add that Sondheim loved the finished work.

white hair streak = Sontag
Haha, thought the same thing.

"Ride me bike into the dock ?"

Saw this last night - amazingly good! The hair is more Dave Vanian really.

Burton didn't want patches of dialogue interrupted by song, as is traditional. He cut the show's famous opening number, "The Ballad of Sweeney Todd." Why have a chorus singing about "attending the tale of Sweeney Todd" when you could just go ahead and attend it?

UGH. DIE BURTON, DIE.

THIS IS ONLY ONE OF THE BEST MOMENTS OF THE MUSICAL. Fucking Hollywood hacks think they can 'improve' everything. I realize you have to 'adapt' musicals for the screen but it doesn't mean RUIN them.

I may boycott it on this alone. Not that me not going will hurt their box office receipts--that'll happen on its own.

Is that the number where they say:
The Demon Barber of
Fleet
Street
?

That is the #1 best song in it!

Yes, that is.

It is reprised several times (and I could understand cutting some of THOSE as reprises don't work well in movies), but yes, that's the one.

Another legacy will be ruined!

There certainly is a case you don't have to do the "Ballad" onscreen. Having the stage version embalmed is what happened to West Side Story, My Fair Lady, etc. (I was happy to see Sondheim say WSS is an unsuccessful film.)

morbs to set record straight i have seen 2 touring productions, 1 sit down in toronto, and 1 london "broadway show", just never gone to the theater on broadway and seen one of em. frankly, i'm not a huge fan. but sweeney todd is awesome. we should have discussed this last night. damn.

I don't know all that much about it; I think I may prefer Assassins !

The best song, from Lansury anyway, is "The woooooooooorst pies in Lonnndon..."

Assassins is fucking amazing.

I'm a theatre guy and I've always wanted to be in it. probably to play Czolgosz.

I know a guy who played Guiteau. "I am goin' to the Lordy..."

I love that part too.

"You've been a killer..."
"Yes I have!"

The trailer makes Sweeney's backstory seem virtually identical to ... BATMAN's! There's also maybe 10 seconds of "singing" in it (Depp).

Whoever was w/ Roeper last week (Wilonsky?) jibed that this was the grimmest Christmas release since Looking for Mr. Goodbar.

well....my friend, who saw Sweeney Todd in its original incarnation on Broadway in 1979 with Len Cariou, absolutely loved it.

It's getting good reviews so maybe it'll work after all. Not all skeptics have been won over, but many have.

I'm seeing it tonight.

ok--I actually liked it.

Now--don't go in expecting dynamite vocal performances. Depp isn't really a singer, nor does he bring the baritone bravado that Len Cariou or George Hearn did. However, he does act his pants off in the role.

Helena Bonham Carter was too subdued. Granted I know Broadway's over the top nature doesn't translate well to the screen, but it seems in the last 3 years of movie musicals actors have confused "subtlety" with "absence of persona". She picked it up in the second act but ultimately was forgettable, which is a shame.

To be honest, the choruses being removed wasn't as bad as I thought--although there was one place where I really felt it was necessary and its absence disappointed me.

Making Tobias a young child was a little weird--the broadway show is kind of vague on how old he is but he's an adult in that show, an emotionally damaged and fragile one.

But ultimately, Sondheim's score carries it in the end. Oh and Alan Rickman ruled.

Is it as good as the stage version? Hell no. But I actually enjoyed myself--and this is why you see the movies.

Johnny Depp IS
http://www.en3mots.com/admin/uploads/pix/2007/courbet.jpg
Tim Burton's Gustave Courbet!.

(If you don't know who Courbet is, don't do an image search at work, even with moderate safety)

i wish these two stopped working together now. i also wish depp had never become jack sparrow as almost everything hes done since has either been stupidly camp/flamboyant or just unnecessarily eccentric. complete parody.

Have you:

a) seen any of the movies he made BEFORE "Pirates 1";
b) actually looked at the movies he's made since?

It's a pretty consistent continuum.

For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Depp#Filmography

i have. and i still think the same. charlie and the choc factory was awful. though occasionally the sparrowfication works, as with libertine.

Yes, there was an oversaturation of Sparrowfication