Have you ever asked your relatives about their wartime experience?

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I'm going to be interviewing my Grandpa & Grandma over the upcoming Christmas holiday about their wartime experiences, since Grandpa was on a USN cruiser and a submarine from '42 - '48, and Grandma worked in the GM plant making war materiel. For several years, I've wanted to get their stories down on tape, and I'll finally get the chance this time.

Have you ever talked to any of your relatives about this kinda thing? Either their active service, or life on the home front?

(crossposted on nuILX)

kingfish trapped under ice (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

isn't the 'elderly relative who won't shut up about the war' one of the ten essential comedy memes of the television sitcom?

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

(ie, no need to *ask*)

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Albert1.jpg
"During the warwah"

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

This is an awesome idea and something I've thought about doing for years. Lack of motivation will come back to bite me in the ass one day. .

You know, I know lots of stories but I don't think I've actually sat down and asked to hear them.

Handmaiden of Hip Hop (Molly Jones), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

'what did you do in the war on terror, daddy?'

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to have talked to my maternal grandfather about the war, as he had a pretty important job and had connections with the War Cabinet, but unfortunately he died before I was born. The two grandparents I knew, conversely, were both bank clerks during the war.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

My grandfather was in WWII and won't talk about it, even when asked. He's usually pretty expansive, too, so I'm guessing his time in the service was somewhat unpleasant.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

the only members of my family who saw active service would never talk about it :(

the public records office has been good for dredging up some details though i'm no nearer to finding out why one great-grandfather was cheated out of a VC and another had a collection of ex-top secret WW1 tank test photos

The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

It wasn't until I did just this (age 12) that I discovered my grandfather speaks fluent Japanese. He was stationed in Okinawa for 3 years during the Korean War, as a medic. He tried to convince me that Hawkeye Pierce was based entirely on him.

captain reverend gandalf jesus (nickalicious), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

the bbc are archiving personal reminiscences about the war here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/

spent an hour there last week reading about W12 an how it was affected by the war - wormwood scrubs had anti-aircraft guns all over it, the factories a bit further west were big targets so it got quite a battering.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

The most interesting first hand acount I've had is from a Quaker relative of mine from the States, a great uncle or somesuch, who was a conscientious objector then volunteered as an ambulance driver in North Africa. I was quite humbled by his bravery.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

my grandparents don't like talking about it. well, one of them didn't, but then he died. the other volunteered before he got drafted, pushed papers for a few years, and considers himself really lucky that he got off with that. i really have to ask my talkative female older relatives for their growing up immigrant in the 30s stories, though, they could be really cool.

Maria (Maria), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I've never noticed the veterans in my family to be too verbose about their wartime experiences. Both of my grandfathers served in WWII but I had to ask them about their experiences before they volunteered anything more than passing anecdotes about it. My uncle was a little more forthcoming about Vietnam but I think that's because they're usually humorous stories about smoking pot for the first time or getting into fights with members of other branches of the services or rescuing friends from the grasp of hookers and whatnot.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, and this is for any war: korea, vietnam, falklands, desert storm, etc.

kingfish trapped under ice (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

i keep meaning to do this with my grandparents, my grandpa's already told me loads of stories but i'd like to get them on tape.

i read a while ago that there are only like 50 surviving veterans of WWI, and feeling kinda sad about that. someone ought to try and interview as many of them as they can while they're still around.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

He tried to convince me that Hawkeye Pierce was based entirely on him.

haha!

I have a great uncle who was a pilot in WW2. He's past 80. . .I should really talk to him.

Besides that the only other war relatives served in was Vietnam. But as Maria said there are also great immigrant stories to be told.

Handmaiden of Hip Hop (Molly Jones), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

My paternal Grandfather helped clear out Belsen after the war.

We were very not to ask him anything about it. Very.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

My dad will talk about avoiding the draft via grad school in Berkley,
but my Uncle refuses to give up any details about h-bomb assembly...

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

my grandfather spoke freely about his time in the Navy during WWII in the Pacific - running the Enigma machine on-board, doing communications and navigation. I don't think he really enjoyed combat or anything but his memories of his on-ship duties were pretty sharp (codes, flag signals, etc.) He was preparing to ship out for the ostensible land invasion of Japan when they got the news about Hiroshima.

My dad was drafted during Vietnam but managed to get stationed in Germany and never saw any "action", so his stories are fairly boring Radar O-Reilly army-office-clerk type stuff.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

My dad was in Vietnam for a time, but he won't say a word about it.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

My father rarely talked about his experiences in Vietnam, though lately he has told a few stories. Long car trips will do that I guess. Last night he talked about a 1965 intervention in the Dominican Republic where he flew troops into a remote airport.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

My grandmother gaily tells me about how lovely Germany was in 1938 when she spent a summer in Heidelberg as a vivacious fun-seeking 17-year-old. My grandmother is far from being a right wing Mitford sister type so I think I should put her enthusiasm down to youthful high spirits.

Earwig oh! (Mark C), Monday, 21 August 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Never having met either of my grandfathers I did ask my grandmother, shortly after 9-11, about what my granddad's role was in WWII. He worked as an engineer in one of the shipping vessels that travelled between Halifax, Iceland and the U.K. - but aside from basic info like that she wasn't able to tell me too much.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 21 August 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Your Uncle Walter's going on and on
'Bout everything he's seen and done
The voice of 50 years experience
He's drunk, watching the television

You know he's been around the world
Last night he flew to Baghdad
In his magical armchair
Cigarettes and a six pack, he just got back
Now the spit's flying everywhere

Hey, hey, hey, hey (Your Uncle Walter's going on and on)
You're back so late (Where did you go that you were gone so long)
How could you leave me here so long with Uncle Walter

Your Uncle Walter saw who fired the shots
He drove his chair in the cavalcade
He's flown from South Africa
To countries where
They beat themselves on the backs with chains
There was a fleet of battleships
And 1 reclining chair
Headed north on the Arabian Sea
Now he's back to tell us what
He and his oldest boy Blair
They're getting rich with their mail order scheme

Oh, oh (Your Uncle Walter's going on and on)
We're so glad you're home (Where did you go that you were gone so long)
How could you leave me here so long with Uncle Walter

Your Uncle Walter told me
Everything he'd do if he was president
Oh what a perfect world
This world would be
If he was President now
But he's not

And he sees the children smoking pot
He knows that in a moment
They'll be shooting up heroin
Teardrops in his armchair
A 50 minute lecture
Tobacco juice rolling down his chin

Hey, hey, hey, hey (Your Uncle Walter's going on and on)
You're back so late (Where did you go that you were gone so long)
How could you leave me here so long with Uncle Walter

Sir Dr. Rev. PappaWheelie Jr. II of The Third Kind (PappaWheelie 2), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

My dad was in the Merchant Marines during 1939-1941 and was torpedoed twice in the North Atlantic. The first time he was in a lifeboat for two weeks and the second time he "didn't even get wet" but he attributed that to sleeping on deck (after the first sinking) and was one of the first to be picked up.

After that, he transferred over to the Pacific and made a couple SFHawaii runs until one weekend just before shipping out on another run when he and a buddy of his picked up some girls and ran off to Yosemite. They were late getting back and missed the ship, which ended up being sunk with all hands by a Japanese submarine. After that, my dad figured that he used up more than his allotment of nine lives and returned home to Ithaca where he got a job at the Ithaca Gun Company. My mom was working there assembling combat shotguns (a regular Rosie The Riveter!) and that's how they met.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, and my dad was drafted and sent to Korea about 12 years after that war ended. He saw a UFO there.

Grandpa stayed in the Navy until 1948. He didn't see my dad until 6 mos after he was born. He came home to become a firefighter, until smoke-inhalation incurred during a successful rescue caused him to lose a bit of a lung and retire to installing heaters and sump pumps. Grandpa remained a volunteer firefighter for decades, and too many chistmas mornings spent putting out fires is why my family never uses a real christmas tree.

kingfish trapped under ice (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

My dad fought was in the army, fought in the Korea circa 1951-53. He went right after college, ROTC, commissioned as a lieutenant in the infantry mortar division. He never said much about it, especially during the vietnam years when my mom was a raving peacenik. Occasionally he'd comment about the army being a poorly run organization. But toward the (premature) end of his life, after my mom died, he opened up and whoa...let's just say he saw serious combat and participated in some real heavy shit. It was wierd cause my dad was such a well-adjusted normal hale-fellow-well-met nice guy, I don't think anybody would've guessed he was carrying this stuff around, I'm not even sure how much my mom knew about it.

And now a new generation of veterans inherits the same burden.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 21 August 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

My dad wouldn't talk about his experience in Vietnam until last year. It wasn't pleasant. Three of my uncles were/are basically shell shocked by their experiences in Vietnam, or at least that's the excuse we all give them for being weird. They all killed lots of people.

don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 21 August 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

Never really got the chance to speak to any of my relatives about it. All from the older generation that I know served died before I was born or when I was a baby. Don't remember much of my uncle that did two tours in Vietnam with the Special Forces doing long range recon, as he also died when I was pretty young.

Judging by what I've heard from my father and his other brothers though, he never much talked about it, but it really changed him. From the stories I've been told by them, he was involved in some pretty messy things and killed quite a lot of people, not all men, both in Vietnam and in black ops stuff after the war.

One of my oldest friends served in Iraq and was in Fallujah when all of the major fighting was happening there. He similarly hasn't talked much about it since he's been home and out of the service, and I don't ask. If he wants to discuss it, I'll wait for him to volunteer any info.

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

i was one of those kids who was 'into' the war (airfix models 'n shit) so i always wanted to ask. my girlfriend's granfather is polish and came to the UK after the war via an insane series of adventures that could make up an 18th century novel, or 'catch 22'. i was glad to be able to talk to him about it.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

My dad was on a minesweeper, in the Royal Navy, at D-Day.
He died 17 years ago, so I never discussed it with him, but I do have his service records and some other stuff, and have attempted to piece together his experiences.
His story: He was stationed to a ship, but when he got on board he found that he didn't have the right gear. So he reported to the CO and they shipped him off on a different boat. He saw the boat he was supposed to be on blown up at D-Day.
That's the story, anyway.
He felt his life had been saved, and immigrated to America after the war.
He was from Ochiltree, Scotland, and had completed the ninth grade before getting kicked out of school. He worked in the mines and at a sheep slaughter facility before joining the navy.
When he immigrated, he enrolled in college and completed his degree in three years.
Then he went to divinity school and became a minister.
I miss him, of course, and I hold onto these details of his life....especially getting his degree in three years without much of an educational foundation !
Plus, I'm proud to be a coal miner's daughter.
Anyone have info about research into WWII service? Because he served in the British Navy, and I'm in America, I have had a hard time accessing good contacts.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)


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