GIMP vs. Paint.NET

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― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

i settled for paint.net at work because i didnt want to put an unlicensed copy of photoshop on my networked machine. i thought id hate it but ive got to say: not bad! for the basics, anyway.

i dont know what GIMP is.

― sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

photoshop

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

wow dean I never thought of that

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

adobe photoshop

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

is that who makes it?

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

i've used gimp several times with good results, but i've not used paint.net

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

If you're used to Photoshop, there's also GIMPshop.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

I use gimp and like it, haven't tried paint.net.

― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

if you're planning to print your images at some point, then the gimp may not be a good idea. otherwise, it's a fine piece of software.

― lopez (iiivan), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

SeaShore for OS X has CMYK support, but it's not as powerful as the normal GIMP package.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

i've found gimp lets you do most things photoshop does (lots of frif-fraf thats unnecc. aside) but it tends to make them significantly more painful.

i've always been a fan of graphicconverter (for os x) for most work that isn't too fancy.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Gimp on OS X is kind of sucky, having to be run in X11 and menu bars in each window instead of at the top of the screen. How far behind is Seashore?

― naus (Robert T), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

i've also found photoshop generally speedier than gimp, actually.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

photoshop

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Gimp fucking sucks.

Buy Photoshop you cheap fucks.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking about getting Elements. No need for me to get professional software if I don't even have a camera!

― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 24 August 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

Still waiting for an intel-mac version of Photoshop. Fucking Apple and their secrets. Can Gimp even do CMYK yet?

― stet (stet), Thursday, 24 August 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

"you cheap fucks"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 August 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

YCF

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 24 August 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

gimp's fine for everything i want to do (but most of what i want to do is just cropping and scaling, nothing complex). do they even do photoshop for linux? 8)

picasa as another suggestion? maybe too simple.

(gimp currently having it's colour management system rewritten (GEGL), cmyk support will come out of this. it's also available as a plugin. not that i've ever needed it.)

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Thursday, 24 August 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking Apple and their secrets.

Christ they gave them enough time with their dev machines. Adobe's just taking advantage of the fact that nobody can possibly slip in and steal the market from them in the interim.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 24 August 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

Really? Adobe's playing it that they found out about the intel switch at the same time we did. Though next spring is taking the fucking piss.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 24 August 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

SeaShore, that I mentioned above, is a Cocoa rewrite of GIMP, minus a few filters and effects but it supports CMYK.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Paint.NET is basically Photoshop for free. I've only used it for 30 minutes though. The GIMP sucks, I have to agree.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

i liek paint.net, i use it for all my ilx .jpgs

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

i've raved about it on other treads..

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Still waiting for an intel-mac version of Photoshop. Fucking Apple and their secrets.

Adobe should have been working on a Cocoa-native version of their application since pre-OSX release days. Instead, they continued to use their legacy build infrastructure. Fucking idiots. also, Andrew otm.

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

took me too long to wean myself off Paintshop Pro and onto Photoshop to relearn something like Gimp (which i installed once for a day) or Paint.Net, just because I haven't paid Adobe. PHHhh

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Cocoa is irrelevant to the switch -- Carbon compiles for intel too; it's XCode that matters here.

Like you've said before, Xcode is not all that for huge apps. Adobe wouldn't have moved to it unless they really had to. If they'd had a bit of advance notice that yes, they really had to, we would only have to wait about -- well, a year knowing them.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Err, yea you're right. Moving from Codewarrior to GCC/Xcode tool kit.

Why do you say XCode is shit for big apps? The toolchain is fine and developers can use whatever IDE/Editor they want. (I agree the GUI is lacking though.)

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I imagine there's a lot of work that needs to be done converting CodeWarrior shit-code over.

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

i really liked paintshop pro (when i could get it for free). it was cute.

― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Yeh, it's pretty much just the GUI I'm talking about, although that looks better in 10.5

― stet (stet), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

The Subversion support is such crap in XCode.... grgrgrg

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

you'd think Apple would take more care with someone like Adobe.. one way or the other, giving more notice or making sure their code was in shape, because Adobe's programs has been such a killer app, and now they own Macromedia, it's big league software for mac users, if they think they'd be better served on PCs...

I dumped Paintshop Pro once I had to worry about stuff appearing on paper instead of a computer screen. But yeah it wasn't too bad, I often miss some of the more fluid usability features and lightweight features. It's still installed, just don't trust it too much or rather I don't trust myself to use to a high enough level anymore.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

PC JR BRODERBUND PRINT SHOP

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Again, the problem wasn't the Intel switch, it was the fact that Adobe kept on relying on Codewarrior for years after it became obvious that it was going the way of the dodo. I'm sure they knew about the Intel switch long long long before it was announced.

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

However, after Metrowerks was acquired by Motorola in 1999, the company concentrated on embedded applications, devoting a smaller fraction of their efforts into compilers for desktop computers. On July 29, 2005, they announced that CodeWarrior for Mac would be discontinued after the next release, CodeWarrior Pro 10. Although Metrowerks did not detail their reasons, the demand for CodeWarrior had presumably fallen after Apple began distributing a free IDE with OS X. In addition, Apple's upcoming switch to Intel chips left Metrowerks without an obvious product as they had sold their Intel compiler technology to Symbian earlier in 2005.

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Adobe programmers are lazy-ass fucks. They couldn't even be bothered to add-in proper multi-core/multi-processing into Photoshop. If you've got a dual or quad-processor G5 handy fire up ActivityMonitor and then start doing some stuff in Photoshop and see just how much Photoshop uses those extra processors.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 24 August 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I would, but it's still launching. Maybe tomorrow.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 24 August 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

you'd think Apple would take more care with someone like Adobe..

I don't think the delay really harms anyone in equation (except consumers). Apple knows that a lot of their high end graphics gurus don't buy revision A hardware (been burnt too many times to fall for that), and they're the only ones who are going to be aware of (and care enough about) the fact that CS2 ain't universal. Ergo, Adobe's fucking around for months doesn't hurt Apples sales, and as I said upthread Adobe is pretty much invincible in this marketplace for the forseeable future.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 25 August 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

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