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― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)
Astronomers voting in the Czech capital have voted to strip Pluto of its status as a planet. About 2,500 experts were in Prague for the International Astronomical Union's (IAU) general assembly.
Astronomers rejected a proposal that would have retained Pluto as a planet and bring three other objects into the cosmic club.
Pluto was discovered in 1930 by the American Clyde Tombaugh at the Lowell Observatory in Arizona.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)
― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)
Bring back Pluto!
Can we petition them and protest like we did with New Coke?
― Goldene Schnitt (kate), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)
Pluto! The dude planet! It goes the other way round the sun to the other planets! It's the furthest one out! Apart from 33 years of its orbit where it's closer than Neptune! And that's happening now!
Don't make it come down here!
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)
― genital hyphys (haitch), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)
The vote effectively means the ninth planet will now be airbrushed out of school and university textbooks.
The decision was made at a meeting of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) in the Czech capital Prague.
Pluto's status has been contested for many years as it is further away and considerably smaller than the eight other planets in our Solar System.
Since the early 1990s, astronomers have found several other objects of comparable size to Pluto in an outer region of the Solar System called the Kuiper Belt.
Some astronomers believe Pluto belongs with this population of small, icy "Trans-Neptunians", not with the objects we call planets.
Allowances were once made for Pluto on account of its size. At just 2,360km (1,467 miles) across, Pluto is significantly smaller than the other planets. But until recently, it was still the biggest known object in the Kuiper Belt.
That changed with the discovery of 2003 UB313 by Professor Mike Brown and colleagues at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech). After being measured with the Hubble Space Telescope, it was shown to be some 3,000km (1,864 miles) in diameter, making it larger than the ninth planet.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)
Apart from when it isn't, of course.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)
NEVER FORGET
― genital hyphys (haitch), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)
XENA, call it by it's name!!!
i thought they were going to be called plutons
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)
― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)
"Oh Pluto, Pluto!How dare they screw you! No!"
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)
can't talk = not a real disney character. downgraded!!
― genital hyphys (haitch), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)
xpost
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/gold_voyager.gif
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record
― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)
― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
Personally I welcome the news and embrace our new Anti-Pluto overlords.
Also Afghanistan should be declassified as a country and re classified as a dwarf country.
― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)
Lovecraft was right! (There are various references to the outer space critters being from Yuggoth aka Pluto.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)
I keep coming across reports on this that are all "Pluto ain't a planet anymore" but none of them actually bother going into what definition of "planet" they've adopted that makes that so. Just like some bullet points would be nice, in case I stumble on something at lunch and can't decide whether it's a planet or not. Is it the whole thing where Pluto doesn't orbit on its own center of gravity (but rather some midpoint between itself and its moon)? (But there are double planets elsewhere, aren't there?)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Scourage (Haberdager), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)
Pluto, which has been widely regarded as a planet since its discovery in 1930, has an oblong orbit that overlaps with Neptune's, so is disqualified full planet status. from guardianunlimited.co.uk
so that doesn't disqualify binary planets as long as the binary planets have a clear orbit.
― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)
And this isn't new it seems:
Now, two of the objects that at one point were cruising toward possible full-fledged planet status will join Pluto as dwarfs: the asteroid Ceres, which was a planet in the 1800s before it got demoted, and 2003 UB313, an icy object slightly larger than Pluto nicknamed Xena by its discoverer, Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology.
― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
Pluto was automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with Neptune's
So, erm, doesn't that mean that Neptune's orbit hasn't been cleared either? And Neptune is still a planet.
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)
― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)
In other words, Pluto's orbit isn't planet like. It's just a "thing" like comets and kuiper belt objects.
― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Thursday, 24 August 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)
Those close cooperators of astronomers the geologists had objections -- "pluton" means something in that field.
― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 24 August 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 24 August 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 25 August 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)
― dud Hab 'C' dEva (Dada), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)
Neptune: "It wasn't me, he started it!"
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:08 (nineteen years ago)
― dud Hab 'C' dEva (Dada), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:08 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)
That was my first thought too. And it seems we're not the only ones...
― JimD (JimD), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)
(Plutonian Replanetification Movement)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:31 pm
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 25 August 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)
Holy crap. NOW I get it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_planets#Pluto
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 25 August 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Friday, 25 August 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 25 August 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Friday, 25 August 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42013000/jpg/_42013520_tom_ap_203.jpg
/dirty mind
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 25 August 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Half the planets in, what remains of the Solar System, have moons that are bigger than Pluto. It's still a planet; just a minor one.
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)
"It's fucked up what they did to Pluto! I thought that's where we got liquid nitrogen from. Man, that's fucked up."
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Friday, 25 August 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 7 September 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)
― S- (sgh), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)
"I feel upset because I kind of felt like Pluto was my friend even though it was in space." Jonah, 9.
Part of the reaction to this seems to stem from a sense of upheaval, that a world view accepted as fact has been subverted. I'm not a scientist, but if Pluto is no longer a so-called "planet," what were the original criteria for planets, and have these since changed?
― salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 7 September 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)
Pluto re-planeted by Illinois
I am upset that Illinois is claiming Tombaugh when he is clearly property of my city, Las Cruces, NM. I mean I go to a church with a stained glass of him freaking discovering Pluto.
― bad-boy cartographer (Abbott), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)
Also I learned BILL NYE the SCIENCE GUY had a big hand in de-planetizing Pluto...oh when childhood heroes braek heart ;_;
― bad-boy cartographer (Abbott), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)
He didn't want that lady to be right about the new kind of clouds, either -- he said so in an interview. Whadda Scrooge.
― Like most people my age, I am 33 (Laurel), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:41 (sixteen years ago)
I mean I go to a church with a stained glass of him freaking discovering Pluto.
...and why aren't you sharing a photo link of this. Please. :-)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:41 (sixteen years ago)
http://uuchurchlc.org/IMAGES/Window-Tombaugh-Vlarge.jpg
There is also an AMAZING LIST of jokes he made of puns about crows in there...I'll get a photo soon & upload it.
(Looks like he discovered the planet in AZ but founded the Unitarian Church here!)
― bad-boy cartographer (Abbott), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)
The church has been in threat of razing by angry villagers, who hate its heretical positing of a heliocentric world.
― bad-boy cartographer (Abbott), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:51 (sixteen years ago)
That photo has made my day. :-)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)
"The Heliocentric Worlds of Clyde W. Tombaugh" is not as good as Sun Ra's; dude just can't play keybs.
― nickn, Monday, 27 July 2009 19:03 (sixteen years ago)
Just to confirm: went to Hayden Planetarium yesterday and, according to Whoopie Goldberg, Pluto is still not a planet.
― Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2009 19:13 (sixteen years ago)
New Maps For These Territories
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/421589main_p1006aw-540.jpg
NASA today released the most detailed set of images ever taken of the distant dwarf planet Pluto. The images taken by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope show an icy and dark molasses-colored, mottled world that is undergoing seasonal changes in its surface color and brightness. Pluto has become significantly redder, while its illuminated northern hemisphere is getting brighter. These changes are most likely consequences of surface ices sublimating on the sunlit pole and then refreezing on the other pole as the dwarf planet heads into the next phase of its 248-year-long seasonal cycle. The dramatic change in color apparently took place in a two-year period, from 2000 to 2002.The Hubble images will remain our sharpest view of Pluto until NASA's New Horizons probe is within six months of its Pluto flyby. The Hubble pictures are proving invaluable for picking out the planet's most interesting-looking hemisphere for the New Horizons spacecraft to swoop over when it flies by Pluto in 2015.Though Pluto is arguably one of the public's favorite planetary objects, it is also the hardest of which to get a detailed portrait because the world is small and very far away. Hubble resolves surface variations a few hundred miles across, which are too coarse for understanding surface geology. But in terms of surface color and brightness Hubble reveals a complex-looking and variegated world with white, dark-orange and charcoal-black terrain. The overall color is believed to be a result of ultraviolet radiation from the distant sun breaking up methane that is present on Pluto's surface, leaving behind a dark and red carbon-rich residue....The images, taken by the Advanced Camera for Surveys, are invaluable to planning the details of the New Horizons flyby in 2015. New Horizons will pass by Pluto so quickly that only one hemisphere will be photographed in the highest possible detail. Particularly noticeable in the Hubble image is a bright spot that has been independently noted to be unusually rich in carbon monoxide frost. It is a prime target for New Horizons. "Everybody is puzzled by this feature," says Buie. New Horizons will get an excellent look at the boundary between this bright feature and a nearby region covered in pitch-black surface material.
The Hubble images will remain our sharpest view of Pluto until NASA's New Horizons probe is within six months of its Pluto flyby. The Hubble pictures are proving invaluable for picking out the planet's most interesting-looking hemisphere for the New Horizons spacecraft to swoop over when it flies by Pluto in 2015.
Though Pluto is arguably one of the public's favorite planetary objects, it is also the hardest of which to get a detailed portrait because the world is small and very far away. Hubble resolves surface variations a few hundred miles across, which are too coarse for understanding surface geology. But in terms of surface color and brightness Hubble reveals a complex-looking and variegated world with white, dark-orange and charcoal-black terrain. The overall color is believed to be a result of ultraviolet radiation from the distant sun breaking up methane that is present on Pluto's surface, leaving behind a dark and red carbon-rich residue.
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The images, taken by the Advanced Camera for Surveys, are invaluable to planning the details of the New Horizons flyby in 2015. New Horizons will pass by Pluto so quickly that only one hemisphere will be photographed in the highest possible detail. Particularly noticeable in the Hubble image is a bright spot that has been independently noted to be unusually rich in carbon monoxide frost. It is a prime target for New Horizons. "Everybody is puzzled by this feature," says Buie. New Horizons will get an excellent look at the boundary between this bright feature and a nearby region covered in pitch-black surface material.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)
And a new URL for the Tombaugh window
http://www.uuchurchlc.org/WP/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Window-Tombaugh1.jpg
Is that Alan Whicker on the potter's wheel, far right panel?
― Mark G, Friday, 5 February 2010 08:27 (fifteen years ago)
I heard Gordon Brown is going to upgrade it back to a class, despite what the regulatory committee say... no wait, that's cannabis, not Pluto
― dog latin, Friday, 5 February 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)
same thing.
― Mark G, Friday, 5 February 2010 10:00 (fifteen years ago)
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/536805_10151697980690066_882680065_23939488_573696251_n.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:35 (thirteen years ago)
(Yes, I know it's not Nasa who downgraded Pluto. Still, I like to think Pluto struts around with this kind of attitude.)
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 13 May 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.redorbit.com/media/uploads/2012/09/pluto-charon.jpg
Gemini Observatory Takes Sharpest Ground-Based Images Ever Of Pluto And Charon
Pluto, the dwarf planet (ex-number-nine), and its larger companion Charon, recently posed for astronomers. Using the high-resolution Gemini North 8-meter telescope along with reconstructive speckle imaging, astronomers were able to capture the twin extrasolar planetary system, providing the sharpest ground-based images of the deep-space dwellers.The images prove that ground-based speckle imaging is a powerful tool for exoplanet discoveries. The data received also verified previous orbital characteristics for the twin system and revealed precise diameters for each.“The Pluto-Charon result is of timely interest to those of us wanting to understand the orbital dynamics of this pair for the 2015 encounter by NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft,” said Steve Howell of the NASA Ames Research Center, who led the study.
The images prove that ground-based speckle imaging is a powerful tool for exoplanet discoveries. The data received also verified previous orbital characteristics for the twin system and revealed precise diameters for each.
“The Pluto-Charon result is of timely interest to those of us wanting to understand the orbital dynamics of this pair for the 2015 encounter by NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft,” said Steve Howell of the NASA Ames Research Center, who led the study.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 September 2012 01:11 (thirteen years ago)
NASA Unveils First Close-up of Plutohttp://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JN955_PLUTO0_P_20150724131944.jpg
― brimstead, Friday, 24 July 2015 21:29 (ten years ago)