Joe Paterno

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Roux

joe must go.

scandal.

shame & intrigue.

sad story all around.

i agree! also, check out the ncaa football thread on ILNFL.

oh right. yeah i don't ever go there.

Endgame already in sight.

I'm sure no columnists/bloggers will be tasteless enough to paint the fact of his leaving as the TRAGEDY of this disaster, will they?

might be a good time to bump this

Did something happen in the last five hours?

Joe Paedoknow

lmao buzza

lol

isn't pater no disturbing enough

he's a college football coach, ie, one of the least significant people imaginable.

(next to NFL coaches)

dude he is like the mount friggin' rushmore of college coaches. like, the whole town exists because he breathes. so sad and seedy and bad.

not like i care. but i mean come one give iconic legend credit where iconic legend credit is due.

am I weeping for State College or Boalsburg?

I say fuck college football as you say fuck foreign films.

i never said that. i was totally gonna watch trollhunter tonight.

amazon reviewers having a field day with sandusky's book

1.0 out of 5 stars Completely misleading title, November 5, 2011
By dakota loomis (lawrence, ks United States) - See all my reviewsThis review is from: Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story (Paperback)
100% false advertising by Mr. Sandusky. Not a single page in this book "touches" on how to appropriately gain the trust of young, at-risk boys, and then use that trust to perpetrate horrifying sexual assaults on the very children who turned to you for guidance and support. Almost as disappointing as the first time I watched "Touched by an Angel." Don't even get me started on that bullcrap. I still can't watch anything with Della Reese in it.

legit lols at this one:

3.0 out of 5 stars Touched, sort of..., November 7, 2011
By Tim Curley - See all my reviewsThis review is from: Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story (Paperback)
Jerry Sandusky's memoir reveals the way in which he touched young boys while in a position of authority and influence at State College. While I have no direct knowledge of these touchings, I give Jerry the benefit of the doubt. After all, if they were only touches, what's the real harm? Penn State football rules!

Interesting column from April 3, 2011

I'm sure no columnists/bloggers will be tasteless enough to paint the fact of his leaving as the TRAGEDY of this disaster, will they?

It'll be only a matter of days after his ouster before we get the first, "such a shame that a LEGEND was forced out due to impropoer conduct by others", article.

would not put anything past the shits who run bigtime athletic programs and their enablers.

omg he's staying on until the end of the season

fuck college football, fuck penn state, and fuck him

ugh, fuck that

wow this guy is indestructible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heewcZc0P-k

TMI

You wonder how someone thought he could get away with this (though he did).

tbogg Tbogg
Penn State students rallied for Paterno? REally? Did they call it #occupysomelittlekidsbutt ?
6 minutes ago

Police were not contacted after the 2002 incident in which a graduate assistant coach said he walked in on Sandusky performing anal sex on a boy in the shower. Nor did anyone try to find the boy.

For all his good works, Paterno deserves sympathy. But Victim 8 deserves more. He was assaulted one night in the shower. A janitor saw it and was so shaken he told a coworker it was worse than what he had seen in the Korean War. But, fearful that he would lose his job, he didn’t report it.

just really really horrible and horrifying. like a bad dream.

i dunno, just imagine how you'd react if you found out someone very close to you had been doing this, i guess that maybe it's hard to fault Paterno too much for not going to the police immediately, still he really needs to step down like, today

Hard to fault him too much? Impossible to fault him enough, you mean.

i dunno how you'd react if someone told you your best friend may have molested a child? seems like the human brain is not set up to work well in these situations and may just go into heavy denial, plus we don't really know what the grad student exactly told him. obviously his hands are quite dirty on this but I think ppl are simplifying this a lot more than necessary

wow @ that april column

i dunno how you'd react if someone told you your best friend may have molested a child?

I fucking know how I'd react. I'd turn him in immediately and distance myself from him as far as possible. Even if the allegations turned out to be false, well, then I'd have some apologizing to do, but I'd rather err on that side than on letting it slide.

i still think this deadspin column is about the best thing i've read regarding this whole thing

That a great deal of people chose to do nothing after that is proof of how easily a cover-up can spontaneously take root and linger. We'd all like to think we'd do the noble thing when faced with such a seemingly obvious choice. The truth is, we might not. It's impossible to read the Sandusky allegations and not get a vivid mental image of what took place. It's enough to make you want to throw up, and I say that as someone who had a near miss with this sort of thing. It's enough to make you cry out for blood and ask why no one did anything. The outrage comes naturally. But underneath that outrage, there is a real sadness and fear, the idea that "good" people can still be hard-wired for self-preservation, even when faced with the ugliest truths. Even JoePa. Even you.

http://deadspin.com/5857014/jerry-sandusky-joe-paterno-and-the-failure-of-adult-institutions-everywhere

- Drew "Big Daddy Balls" Magary

I fucking know how I'd react. I'd turn him in immediately and distance myself from him as far as possible. Even if the allegations turned out to be false, well, then I'd have some apologizing to do, but I'd rather err on that side than on letting it slide.

obviously in hindsight it becomes very easy to say this. I would like to think i'd do the same thing. I would figure that if someone told me this about my best friend, I'd probably think "hell no, I know this guy, that's not something he would do" and try to convince myself that its false. my brain isn't wired to believe something like that based on something a random guy tells me. maybe its similar to those who find out their wives/husbands might be cheating and their first reaction is to deny that it could happen. regardless of what kind of person Paterno is, I highly doubt that his level of belief in the story would be anywhere near that of a random observer. in discussion, online, i think everyone kind of says these sort of things. maybe it's only in practice that everyone turns out to be evil. I see his thought process being something like "I absolutely do not want to deal with this, so I will report it to my superiors but that's all, I don't want to have to take any more action on this", who knows, I assume more facts are going to come out

eh this was going on for SO LONG and it seems like enough people said something about it (& my guess is that there were more warning signs that havent come out yet) that its gone from "joe paterno being loyal" (which i get!) to "joe paterno being willfully blind"

like this isnt "if someone told you your best friend may have molested a child" (which i dont know how id react! depends on the "evidence" and the circustances i suppose), its "if several people told you, over the course of a few years, that your best friend was molesting children"

max otm

I see his thought process being something like "I absolutely do not want to deal with this, so I will report it to my superiors but that's all, I don't want to have to take any more action on this", who knows, I assume more facts are going to come out

There's an instinct for many, faced with this, to think that it's something that can be controlled ("What the fuck were you doing? Never do that again.") combined with the instinct to un-hear something, to not have it made any more vivid, to really not want to "deal with this" on any level, to push it away and, hopefully, never heard about it again.

xpost- max otm x2

all of it or

Can't imagine Penn State will let them anywhere near campus for filming. Not that that will matter to anyone who didn't go there, but setting it anywhere else will look ridiculous to us who did.

eh it's the same as any movie set at Harvard, you're not allowed to film there either

Would be sort of funny if some Penn State rival like Ohio State said "Come make your horrible Joe Paterno movie here!"

they could have a huge banner that says 'we are. penn state.'

.lol

can't believe it took 9 hours for someone to post say hello to my little friend

^shame

just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in

"Your prospects of being a successful person later in life won't be good"

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18gl77c0c89zipng/original.png

Who's Jeff?

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/D/Jeffrey-Dahmer-9264755-1-402.jpg

"You'll never get a head."

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/12/report-ncaa-psu-and-officials-in-talks-to-restore-sanctions-restore-joe-paternos-wins/

I suspect reinstalling the statue is just around the corner.

someone should just burn the football field to the ground and be done with it

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18gl77c0c89zipng/original.png

assume the letter to sandusky's parents read about the same, right?

Probably.

and it's done. Just let it blow over, eh.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12179571/joe-paterno-111-wins-were-vacated-restored

someone should just burn the football field to the ground and be done with it

― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:04 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

football is our national sickness

i'm done w/college football, really. i mean i recognize at all levels it's awful but at the college level it seems so much worse for whatever reason.

it /is/ worse, b/c it corrupts institutions that are supposed to be engines of democracy

the cult of the team at the college and university level is much worse too. nfl fans are not nearly as, idk, brainwashed.

tbf the idea of vacating wins is stupid

but yeah

xp i think you are selling nfl fans short

well they're brainwashed it just seems more fervent w/the university alums i know, in particular i noticed it with the FSU fans this season i'm friends with. or used to be friends w/before the jameis winston thing.

but what do i know, i quietly hired a hitman to take out jay cutler last week

but what do i know, i quietly hired a hitman to take out jay cutler last week
--LIKE If you are against racism (omar little)

an understandable action in many ways

penn state should be razed imo

for all its overwhelming faults, at least the NCAA doesn't threaten to relocate unless the public pays for stadiums

despite that, fuck the ncaa and penn state and college football. i'm sure just being in the same state as jim harbaugh will make his salary worthwhile to detroit residents

you guys know that the highest-paid public employee in most (nearly all) states is either the college football or basketball coach, right?

sorry, that was the sound of me vomiting into my keyboard.

(not to mention that as a university employee it pisses me off that sports coaches can get away with the kind of unprofessional behavior that would could almost anyone else--up to and including deans and provosts--fired.)

the nfl is an organization run by and populated by monsters and overgrown children as well. idk ncaa seems worse.

if paterno was an equally beloved university president who overlooked the same offenses by a longtime VP or something akin to that his name would have been permanently erased from the history of that school, no takebacks.

probably mentioned this upthread, but my dad teaches at a relatively small western pennsylvania college -- catholic and all-women until 15 years ago.

they've poured insane resources into football (they are division 2, so there's no TV revenue) because it's considered necessary to draw students and their tuition money. football is totally a sickness

yup, my students are sometimes aghast when they ask me about football and i tell them i couldn't give a damn

sometimes they actually ask me for extensions on assignments because they're traveling to one of the away games (these aren't players, just fans)--when that happens i give them a withering look.

nfl is pure garbage

Los Angeles, NFL-free since 1994! (high-fives self)

take the seahawks plz

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/smizik-on-sports/2015/01/16/Bob-Smizik-Penn-State-exonerated-NCAA-humiliated/stories/201501160226

This article is sickening.

I am pissed off at this deal, and pissed off at the Joe Pa backers and Penn State supporters who all get to have a big party now, but I take EXTREME pleasure in knowing that Joe Paterno himself died a disgraced, broken and humiliated man. And Bobby Bowden should go take a steaming dump on his grave.

the cult of the team at the college and university level is much worse too. nfl fans are not nearly as, idk, brainwashed.

― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, January 16, 2015 8:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahaha, you should've been living in Cleveland when the Browns moved. I was a board operator at a sports talk station at the time, and it was staggering. "We need to do whatever it takes to keep this team! Even if it means taking money away from schools and roads!"

they've poured insane resources into football (they are division 2, so there's no TV revenue) because it's considered necessary to draw students and their tuition money. football is totally a sickness

― mookieproof, samedi 17 janvier 2015 03:28 (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree it's ridiculous, ban college football. but isn't the problem here just as much that it's been judged necessary for attracting alumni donations and business sponsorships? anyway ban college football.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/01/16/bernstein-penn-state-as-sick-as-ever/

^ basically where i stand on things. pro-restoring wins, disgusted by penn staters pretending restoring those wins is any form of vindication beyond a mere restoration of historical record. praying they don't bring the statue back.

We should start a Rolling Athletic Directors thread:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article7243046.html

@Tom_Winter
Penn State University to honor fired coach Joe Paterno on the 50th anniversary of his first game as a head coach on September 17th.

smdh

http://d2s3dt9f4iyeup.cloudfront.net/images/resized_v1/fc18c4c4-a915-47bd-b574-d26741d156ee.jpg

this isnt going to end well

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18678266/jerry-sandusky-son-jeffrey-charged-child-sexual-abuse

sure, why not

Well, Joe Paterno’s son is now a blogger for the Saudi government https://t.co/WFlLEOEwBc via @sbnation

— Zito (@_Zeets) January 14, 2019

I used to be a fan of Paterno until I went to law school with his son Sc0tt. All I can say is, what a pompous clown.

good thing there’s no other reason to not be a paterno fan

good thing there’s no other reason to not be a paterno fan

Lol, I met his son in the 90s way before the Sandusky stuff. That interaction prepped me for believing his father would be the exact type of person to ignore reports of sexual abuse if it benefited him.

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/32496588/before-jerry-sandusky-penn-state-football-had-another-serial-sexual-predator-untold-story-crimes-fight-bring-justice

Pretty powerful and long article about rapes by football player at Penn State in 1978.