Battlestar Galactica Season 3

Actually not seen series two yet, so it would be a bad idea to watch anyway!

And I reckon the security people might have worked out such grade one dodges.

as grim as this is, this is still just television, I was watching with friends who were saying 'how can they even get away with showing this', which was a bit of an overreaction, but this is still some serious national therapy

this show, not really just for space nerds (lacking some credibility for saying this being a space nerd, but now that this show has finally made things literal it's going to be a bit harder to ignore)

Annoying but too late to change: Ugly filters on video making things look cold or diseased.

as grim as this is, this is still just television, I was watching with friends who were saying 'how can they even get away with showing this', which was a bit of an overreaction, but this is still some serious national therapy

Amusingly, one J. Goldberg, who has spent the last two years going on about how much he loves the series via NRO, posted something today essentially saying "Uh...I'll get back to you all on Monday."

mid way in that 1st ep (when they made contact) i was reflecting on the fact that tho this is just a fantasy, a manufactured human drama, it has quite an effect on me - i care about the people here. and i'm not bothered by the relentless mood, and obv its not kickabout fun (obv). quite unusual for me to be into this. and i never expected this when it started 2 years ago (i didn't like what i saw in the trail, and i was never too keen on the original show either)

I never thought I'd be into this show either, but it is my favorite now.

Scifi sometimes shows all day marathons of the original Battlestar as well as Battlestar 1980, and they are enjoyable as campy fun but not as much else.

Osama Bin Tigh, though.

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i agree about the weird fat suit, but it seemed by the end of ep2, they were getting back into appolo's actual character rather than just relying on fat suit as character. i'm hoping he'll 'slim down' really quickly...

what most intrigued me though was the starbuck/cylon 'relationship' and that weird apartment she has to live in (which i'm pretty sure is in the building my brother lived in for 6 years until v recently! he met a few of the cast even several months ago when they were filming.) yeah, this subplot seems the most effed up and freaky, as effed as the scare The People into submission cyclon tactics are too.

i'm mostly happy to see new episodes, as much as i already miss the big space battles. (but those'll come again soon enough.)

anyway... though i thought the 2nd half of steazon two had some REAL weak shit in it the pilot double-whammy has restored my faith. yeah it's so obv iraq but somehow it totally works. can't wait to see where they go with it and i think it was a brilliant way to keep the series from treading water.

EXCEPT

they gotta stop adding cute kids to the cast. when dude came in with starbuck's baby my heart totally sank.

-- Hanna (hanna.fah...), Today 6:28 AM. (Hanna) (later)

me too!!

the whole baby gets hurt and starbuck gets attached thing was a little contrived.

I wonder how they're going to let this play out - I really really don't want Starbuck to have a cylon-bastard kid running around her feet for the rest of the season. That would ruin all her cool.

I don't know, she's been in captivity a while and they've been messing with her head. She could be faking it or she could just be losing her mind/developing Stockholm syndrome.

starbuck may be freaking out and may have true feelings for the kid - she's tough not heartless, even if she has doubts about the kid being hers - but she's gotta be faking the cylon handholding. which is rad.

the actors and head writer person are rumoured to have said that this season is supposed to be BLEAK. but, uh, in a good way? hm, not sure how much disturbing and depressing i can deal with in mid-winter...

oh, starbuck's brains are messed up but srsly, a day or two before she holds his hand she's stabbing him in the neck with a piece of metal. she has a soft side but it's not that soft.

i really hope she gets to fly a spaceship again. and that there are more space battles soon.

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also, Laurel, do you have someone who could download/tape new eps for you? 2 fit on one cdr!

A month or two of that and he won't be so into her when he's finally reborn. PLus they remember their deaths, so he's going to remember months of excruciating pain, yo.

I'm a bit confused about this business with the babies. Why is the Hera kid so much more valuable and special than Starbuck's baby? They're both supposed to be hybrids, what's the difference? Also, Starbuck's baby looks much, much older than Hera, which doesn't really make sense.

The Tigh/Ellen scene where he found out she was the traitor was great. Loved Tighs one-eyed face and expression.

Didn't really like the beginning of the episode, when they were in the woods, the whole settings looked so amateurish.

Reasons why Hera is special:
a) Naturally conceived (Cylon's couldn't do that)
b) Roslin doesn't know about KC
but here's the real rub...
c) KC probably isn't really Starbucks baby. As mentioned above, she is far too old, and the whole ovary harvesting thing just sounds pretty implausible She's probably just a stolen human baby.

Beginning of the episode was complete King Of The Rocket Men cheat though to save Roslin and Zarek for CERTAIN DEATH.

Battlestar Galactica cakes:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59462324@N00/sets/72157594330142258/

That's a fun video Alan, but no Boomer love...

it's possible that KC is starbuck's kid even though the timeline can't work (KC looks about 1.5 yrs old, maybe closer to 2.) - but maybe accelerated growth? OR maybe she is a new cylon model. crepey.

TOTAL cheat with the beginning of this episode. end of last ep: cally was totally in the woods when shots went off. but hells, it's tv and i kinda love it for doing stuff like that anyway.

i haven't yet watched the commentaries on scifi site. i'll cross that line today though, i'm sure...

I'm not just gonna skip Season 3 and move on to Razor/Season 4 come on now

nothing in s3 was as bad as Black Market

season 5 is pretty good but why are you guys so excited? this shit came out in the 80s. pretty corny.

Was "Scar" in S3? That was p terrible.

oops i meant season 3 above. scar was season 2.5 i think.

man you guys are harsh. I wouldn't call any of the episodes "terrible", the series in general being better than everything else on TV as well as better than 99% of sci-fi produced today, in any medium.

horrible episodes =

black market
the one where the black guy shows up and strangles adama
boxing grievances

boxing!!!!

agreed except i liked the boxing one :/

The boxing one was sweet.
And yeah "terrible" was too strong, sorry.

what about the ones where they go to the ghost town on vacation and an old prospector locks baltar in a jail cell

what about the one where baltar thinks he has a cylon STD

what about the one where adama has to talk down a cloud with father issues

or the one where apollo and starbuck get sent back to 19th century england

or the one where Starbuck builds a colonial fighter out of coconuts

i hear that in s4, there are a few episodes where they go to hawaii but they encounter a string of bad luck once apollo finds an ancient taboo idol

what about the one where apollo finally kills that polar bear that has been terrorizing the colonial fleet

s6 was really when the writers hit their stride - the plot and theme arcs really held together, some amazing high points in a consistently high-point season: the cave wars! collision with the pirates! the wedding hijinks ep! dual-star explosion - was it really "g/God"???
seriously great stuff

series doesn't really pick up until Tighe's little cousin Oliver joins the crew and Starbuck and Apollo's adorable baby Raven is born

also the episode where President Roslyn has menopause

The final episode of Battlestar Galactica, known as "The Last One", ended in a context different from every other episode of the series. As the viewer pans away from snow beginning to fall on New Caprica, the scene changes to William Adama's autistic son Lee "Apollo" Adama, and Saul Tigh in an apartment building. Adama arrives home from a day of work, and it is clear that he works in construction from the uniform he wears and from a conversation in this scene. "Tigh" is revealed to be William's father, and thus "Apollo"'s grandfather. William laments to his father, "I don't understand this autism thing, Pop. Here's my son. I talk to him. I don't even know if he can hear me, because he sits there, all day long, in his own world, staring at that toy. What's he thinkin' about?" The toy is revealed to be a snow globe with a replica of Old Caprica inside. "Apollo" shakes the snow globe, and is told by his father to come and wash his hands. William Adama places the snow globe on the family's television set and walks into the kitchen and the camera closes in on the snow globe.

:D

the one where the black guy shows up and strangles adama

i liked this one OK

Adama/Eddie Olmos wakes up on Miami Vice, staring at Lee/Don Johnson's hairy orange ankles.

> thanks. the real issue here though is that this dvd is $38.99 on amazon.com. must be msrp?

i paid nearly as much in pounds. still, was much cheaper than subscribing to sky or getting broadband installed. (series 2 did eventually end up on freeview on sky3, about a month after i got the dvds. oh um)

> i'd rather buy an American one and save £££

but they will come down in price dramatically in the next few months - series 2 was £15 when i bought it, the miniseries was a fiver (and still is)

i'm still waiting for the dagget to turn up.

My usual Amazon route is to buy it and put it up for sale in market place the same day for a quid cheaper. You get to see the full whack for about 4 quid tops that way.

my least favorite episode is the one where it randomly turns out that the "Kat" character has a secret history of being a drug runner or some shit like that

the christmas carol themed episode where different "head 6s" are xmas past/present/future and baltar buys the biggest turkey in the shop at the end. brilliant.

the 'gay issue' one with the ressurection ship glitch.

Tiscali has suddenly started carrying Sky One (did you notice this Alan?) so may get to watch S4 that way (not sure how big the gap is between new episodes shown in the US and in the UK).

yes we noticed it a few weeks ago - been watching ST:TNG late at night. lovely. 2, 3 and arts are there too, but they were broken until v recently. is this some cheap deal from sky to spite virgin, yeah?

also, hurray for Lost and 24 when it's back. unless this is a mistake :-(

is this some cheap deal from sky to spite virgin, yeah?

i reckon so.

it will push me into a 'shall i just wait a few days so i can watch Lost on TV but with annoying breaks or shall i just download it right now' dilemma

somehow i miss the credits on real telly. plus recall the schism on the Lost threads about the "next time on Lost" bits :-)

also why does the sci fi channel (UK at least) never show widescreen?

you need to make your imagination widescreen and stop this 4:3 thinking

what about the episode where starbuck and athena have a push-up competition and starbuck is caught doping up on cylon blood?

(sorry, i thought about this last night and started to laugh)

bob fucking dylan?

Get used to it. It's here to stay.

is there a season 4 and razor anticipation thread?

OLD LOOK CYLONS! fighting young looking bill adama. but STILL!

start one!

hang on what is this 'razor'
stop making me feel like i'm losing my mind

it's a tv movie coming out late nov!!

god robyn pay attention

what is happening to my life

guys i haven't watched ANY tv shows this week

So, Has anyone seen the um, highly legal version of Razor flinging its way around the web? It's really good. I still think the show never went off the boil, but anyone who wants a bit of lean, Season 1/2-style BG is going to be quite happy.

And there's also a nice bit of Season 3 style WTF-ery, so it covers all the bases really.

The end was good. The bit with the talking Cylons was completely WTF, though.

Lee Adama is so blatantly the last member of the Final Five.

the talking Cylons were an homage to the original series weren't they?

christ this is really where it all went wrong. the Dylan lyrics!! argh

Just thinking about how terrible the ending was makes me regret wasting time discussing the show upthread.

I've been re-watching the whole thing, am now on Season 4 and there are still moments of lol/good acting/genuine inspiration but the overall trend is one of a severe nosedive