And Mark Green over Cuomoson for AG, alas.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)
SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE.
if i lived in NY, i would vote for cuomo for AG -- but more because i despise mark green than because i like cuomo (who is also kinda repugnant).
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)
Mr. Tasini has qualified for the Sept. 12 primary ballot against Mrs. Clinton, and his positions on the Iraq war, the death penalty and gay marriage are in step with the progressive groups and liberal bloggers that contributed volunteers, money and buzz to Mr. Lamont. Yet some of these partisans say they are deeply reluctant, and in some cases scared, to criticize or abandon Mrs. Clinton, who supported the invasion of Iraq.
They cite her power in the Democratic Party and her careful positioning that has made her, if not antiwar, then a sharp critic of the administration's handling of Iraq, Hurricane Katrina and the economy.
...
Howard Wolfson, a spokesman for Senator Clinton, said his camp would ''see how the campaign plays out'' before making a final decision on a debate. But Mr. Wolfson pointedly added that the New York race would not be a replay of the Connecticut primary two weeks ago.
''The bottom line is that Hillary Clinton is no Joe Lieberman and Jonathan Tasini is no Ned Lamont, and no amount of increasingly over-the-top attacks from Mr. Tasini will change that reality,'' he said.
To many antiwar partisans and liberal groups, Mr. Tasini is also not enough of a threat to Mrs. Clinton to be useful in pressuring her over Iraq. They say that instead of intervening in the primary race, it is more important to keep Mrs. Clinton as an ally and try to influence her foreign policy in friendly ways, since she could well become a presidential candidate in 2008. Otherwise, some fear, she might freeze them out.
Mr. Tasini said he had a chicken-and-egg problem: Groups like MoveOn.org say their New York members are not excited enough about Mr. Tasini to become involved in the race, yet these groups have not systematically polled members to determine that.
As a result, Mr. Tasini has had little help with introducing himself to voters. Some of them are not sure what to make of him, anyway.
Tramping across picnic blankets before the outdoor movie in Bryant Park on Monday night -- ''Take off your shoes,'' people yelled -- Mr. Tasini drew skeptical glares as he bellowed: ''New York Democrats? Any Democrats here?''
Here and there he was invited to make his pitch: that Senator Clinton ''supports criminalizing flag-burning,'' ''supports discrimination against gay couples on marriage,'' and ''supports the Yankees even though I'm the lifelong Yankees fan.'' He was clearly grateful for any attention.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)
Wayne Barrett on Andy Cuomo's cuddliness with a slumlord:
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0636,lozano,74361,6.html
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)
?? Is this Yassky the Carpetbagger? (naturally, with the Chuckie Shillmer tie I eliminated him right after Andrews.)
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0636,robbins,74363,5.html
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)
Is this Yassky the Carpetbagger?
don't you mean "colonizer"?
Jenya
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)
I guess you can't vote for Clarke, though, cuz she was endorsed by another Schumer guy.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)
Mr. Yassky is undoubtedly an opportunist, as are most politicians and certainly all those in this race. But far more important is his stellar record on the Council, leading groundbreaking work on gun control, affordable housing, the environment and jobs creation -- all important to the 11th District.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)
morbs: why are you voting (are you voting?) tasini over hillary? what policies/positions specifically?
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 8 September 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)
(anyone to the left of gabb pls contribute, for the love of mike)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 September 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)
This is the same sort of logic that allows a politician to claim, for example, that his opponent voted 'for continuing fraud and abuse of the welfare system', if they voted against a bill making welfare recipients waive their right to privacy, or, to claim their own efforts 'won the war', if they voted for an appropriation bill.
In this world of twilight logic, any chain of causation you can imagine happening is given the same weight as an accomplished fact and then made the occasion for speculative praise or blame. The disheartening thing is that those who most successfully distort the truth tend to rise the highest.
― Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 9 September 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 September 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 9 September 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 9 September 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 10 September 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)
The basis for my senatorial vote is HRC is a right-wing New Democrat.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)
bank$ in 2006, bitches.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)