2006 American Midterm Elections

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Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

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Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha nice starting post

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

hey kingfish, do you think the Republicans will maintain control of both houses?

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's starting to look like Chaffe will live to fight another day in RI:

Election Results Last Updated: 9/12/2006 10:20pm

US Senate
Republican
78% of 515 Reporting
LINCOLN CHAFEE 26,307 54%
STEPHEN LAFFEY 22,719 46%

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

RedState cries into its collective beer.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

Crying with relief? I actually voted in the primary for Laffey because he wouldn't stand a chance against Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse.

Normally I frown on such Machiavellian machinations but I'm pretty fucking sick of Republican control of Congress.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

hey kingfish, do you think the Republicans will maintain control of both houses?

christ i hope so, and i think that the sentiment is out there, but i think that they're gunna pull so much shit that they might retain one, or pull some denny hastert bullshit and try to jam up the works with nominees, fucked vote counts, and other sundry. Hell, 300,000 missing votes in ohio? that's just the start. Fuck, man, we're dealing with extremely authoritarian folks here; as Thom Hartmann says repeatedly, they ain't necessarily greedy and they ain't evil. They're True Believers and they seriously immerse themselves in idealogy.

but yeah, it's like the 2004 campaign never ended.

and it's going to be interested to see what actually has to happen to make people give a fuck. Did the drowning of an entire city do it? did that neighbor kid down the road dying over there do it? i don't know.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

NO LAFFEY TAFFEY JOKES THIS ELECTION!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

Crying with relief?

Read the comments, it's an interesting mix of 'practicality' and anguish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

ARE THE NOIZE-BOARDERS STILL REGISTERED TO VOTE IN RHODE ISLAND -- AND IF SO, DID THEY VOTE LAFFEY-TAFFEY?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

Read the comments, it's an interesting mix of 'practicality' and anguish.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), September 12th, 2006.

Just like me voting for Laffey! Welcome to RI politics, where our Republican senator is pro-choice and our Democratic congressman is pro-life.

My wife voted for Chaffee, she couldn't bring herself to punish him for the sins of the Republicans. Chaffee's a terrible communicator, he's like Forrest Gump fresh out of an Intro to Public Speaking course. To his credit, he has a distinguished record of standing up to our bullying, vindictive president. That counts for something in my book - unfortunately not as much as the looming possibility of another Republican congress.

A Chafee / Whitehouse runoff is a fairly even match. RI is heavily Democrat, one of the bluest states in New England, but the Chaffee name carries a lot of political capital here. The RNC is going to pour cash into his campaign since he's got a fighting chance. Plus, some Democrats seem to have difficulty looking at this race strategically, ie a chance to regain control of Congress. Worrying.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

it's going to be interested to see what actually has to happen to make people give a fuck. Did the drowning of an entire city do it? did that neighbor kid down the road dying over there do it? i don't know

People do not give even one fuck.

It's very hard not to be cynical about the whole thing.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

It's a slow motion crash I'd feel sanguine about except for all the bodies.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

"hey kingfish, do you think the Republicans will maintain control of both houses?

christ i hope so,"

I assume this is a typo.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

The RNC is going to pour cash into his campaign since he's got a fighting chance.

already did, didn't they? i thought they dumped a shit loada resources in just to make sure he won, which has the nice double effect of making sure the better target isn't nominated, and lets Chafee know who's writing the checks.


xpost

I assume this is a typo.

yeah, i originally read that as "lose," and that I hope ta god that they get pushed the fuck out

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I wouldn't mind if the majorities were reduced to razor-thin margins. Still leaves all those clowns in the hot seat but unable to do fuck all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I don't know... I kind of dream about an opposition party having power to actually investigate some of the bullshit that has gone on for the past several years.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

my hunch is a year from now the gop still controls both houses

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

also, as more and more people are talking about, the increase in cynicism is deliberately what they want. one ain't gunna get involved if one thinks they're all crooks or that no effort to change american public life will work, and so the entrenched fuckheads retain power.

Actually I wouldn't mind if the majorities were reduced to razor-thin margins.

except that it still keeps them at the controls, able to block votes from getting to the floor, etc. the same shit is going on in my own state, in my limited understanding, in the Oregon State House(repub-controlled, so important shit doesn't make it thru).

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

don's kinda right about not giving a fuck - the majority may be turning against the war, but largely in principle and perhaps due to feelings of being misled...? It seems to me the lack of personal sacrifice for this war on behalf of the majority of Americans means that their position on the is not motivated by self-interest or any immediate relation to it - they just aren't affected by it. Its something going on "over there" that they hear about on TV and the internet, it doesn't really have any impact.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

my totally based on nothing guess is that the dems pick up some seats in both but don't get majorities in either. bush will claim some kind of vindication/validation, which the press will buy for a few weeks, until polls keep showing no change, and we'll pretty quickly revert to about where we are now except with it even harder for anybody to do anything. there'll be backlash against howard dean for failing to capitalize, a lot of second-guessing about the dems not spending enough to get out the vote, etc. and then in january, the 2008 election season begins.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

it might be very hard not to be cynical, but it isn't very hard to do something other than throwing up your hands.

also, the public hasn't turned against the war. it just figured out that we're losing.

I really have no idea what's going to happen in November. I don't anticipate a Dem majority in either chamber, but it's definitely possible to win both.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

it just figured out that we're losing.

or, I should say, that we're not going to "win".

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

well okay, but that's largely just a semantic difference based on the specific wording of polling questions. the general tide seems to be that a) majority don't see any point to the war, b) its becoming clear there's no "winning" it, and by an extension of those two, c) "let's please wrap this up as quickly as possible/get out k thx bye"

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

don's kinda right about not giving a fuck

i just think it's that particular american mix of cynicism, insularity, overwork, and ignorance, same as what usually kills civil life

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I don't anticipate a Dem majority in either chamber, but it's definitely possible to win both.

Pretty much my sentiment. I don't have a lot of faith that the Dem party leadership is going to pull together with a strong message and agenda. Even if they do, it takes time to set into the general public consciousness. We still don't have the overall infrastructure for a return to electoral dominance and effective governance. I think it will be a few more years in the wilderness for the Dems. Any Democratic gains will come from Republican corruption and incompetence, not because people understand the different ideologies and philosophies of governance.

I think if we win the house, we will lose it again in 2008, barring any major changes.

Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Republicans will maintain control and haven't doubted it at all. I think it's better for Democrats if they do, particularly for the reason that Ned noted. It's much better if the Democratic party can either reform itself or reinvent itself on a national stage with the benefit of a beauty pageant instead of having Reid/Pelosi/Dean crusade on the anti-Bush platform.

I'm not throwing up my own hands with cynicism about the process, but I'm completely cynical (or at least, somewhat hopeless) about the usual group of people who will not participate in the process. And given the choice, I'd much rather people get politically/socially involved on a municipal level than worry to death about which state judge they are voting for. But some people, as kingfish notes, simply don't have any idea what civil life is all about.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Start here:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0811830667.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

A good start, now let's reinstitute and fund mandatory civics courses for all public, private, & parochial high schools across the land.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'd much rather people vote at the Federal level than get involved making themselves feel good at the municipal level like Karl Rove wants them to.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'd much rather people vote at the Federal level than get involved making themselves feel good at the municipal level like Karl Rove wants them to.
-- gabbneb (gabbne...), September 13th, 2006 2:59 PM. (gabbneb) (link)

?????????!?!

Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

the nation state is dead, quit trying to fuck the corpse.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

But the corpse was dressing sexy and clearly wanted it!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

T/S: Fresh corpses vs rotting corpses?

Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

America = ghost ship of state

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

can't be dead yet, we haven't even started our Foundation yet

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Brain dead? Schaivo managed to inspire a lot of vitriol without being conscious. Sounds familiar. Of course, nobody said she was being belligerent.

Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

The RNC is going to pour cash into his campaign since he's got a fighting chance.

already did, didn't they? i thought they dumped a shit loada resources in just to make sure he won, which has the nice double effect of making sure the better target isn't nominated, and lets Chafee know who's writing the checks.

I was thinking more from the perspective that if Laffey won, the RNC was planning to pull their support, call the race a lost cause, and spend the money elsewhere.

But yeah, I've been getting glossy mail pieces from Chaffee every other day for the last month.

Actually I wouldn't mind if the majorities were reduced to razor-thin margins.

except that it still keeps them at the controls, able to block votes from getting to the floor, etc.

This is my concern exactly - majority party has a lot of say in how things are run, what gets done, priority setting. They're the committee chairs, possess the speaker position, etc. Bush is a bit of a lame duck at this point but anything that can be done to minimize his power further is valuable.

The Republicans have redistricted to ensure they will hold onto power of the congress. That's why opportunities to do end-runs around them are so important (e.g. sending Laffey off to certain defeat against Whitehouse in RI). The democrats in RI should've done a lot more to encourage unaffiliated voters to cast a ballot for Laffey in the Republican primary. Another missed opportunity.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'd much rather people vote at the Federal level than get involved making themselves feel good at the municipal level like Karl Rove wants them to.

W.
T.
F.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, and i would think we'd be for any political outcome that would remove Ted Stevens from being head of the Senate committee overseeing the Internets, Pat Roberts from Intel, put Pat Leahy in charge of Judiciary, etc etc

One fun bit of all this: how likely do y'all think that John Bolton's UN nomination is going to get thru?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

i don't buy this 'people don't care anymore' or 'people aren't active or organized' talk at all, there's a huge number of americans that are passionate (obsessed even), organized, and extremely active on a grass roots level in politics in their communities and on up to the federal level - they're called conservatives.

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Having a majority in the House of Representatives equals control of chairmanships, control of floor votes and (last but not least) control of subpoena powers. (This is another important reason why Rove wants a permanent Republican majority.) That, and substantial control over the federal budget, which is a multi-trillion dollar cookie jar.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

it's still a relatively small number blount, and even that number has become a cliched excuse for Democratic failures for the past dozen or so years. As if it's merely this so-called group of conservative activists that's the magic X-factor in a series of fairly close elections, as if there isn't a similar number of liberal activists who aren't doing the same thing.

We don't need Leahy in charge of anything, but Ted Stevens and Pat Roberts are radioactive cancer.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

how likely do y'all think that John Bolton's UN nomination is going to get thru?

I thought it was CW that it was dead.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

maybe Bush'll nominate Lieberman

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

as if there isn't a similar number of liberal activists who aren't doing the same thing.

While I agree that the scope and effectiveness of the social conservative/evangelical base is over exaggerated, they do seem like a much bigger and more in-step grass-roots support network than liberal activists.

Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

It is inherently harder to get liberal activists to fall into lockstep because the way "liberals" think is not conducive to not "questioning authority." This is a vast oversimplification of the problem, but still important. Herding Democrats/left-leaners is like herding cats. Maybe harder.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

it's not even about falling into lockstep, it's first about being a joiner. liberals tend not to be. their politics lead them more often to push against rather than for things. it's the same impulse that leads people to root for the underdog team, listen to the indie band, etc. it's why the they-hate-America meme works. it's why liberals are successfully cast as countercultural, and conservatives as monocultural. it's why liberals are often against the successful guys on their own team. it wins elections only during occasional times of widespread public dissatisfaction, and barely at that.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

there's a huge number of americans that are passionate (obsessed even)

i would call it sizable, but not huge. I still think that the majority of folks either

1) just don't know
2) just don't care
3) just too busy to find out(Jon Stewart mentions this frequently)

they do seem like a much bigger and more in-step grass-roots support network than liberal activists.

no question, and it's gunna be like that for years

Herding Democrats/left-leaners is like herding cats. Maybe harder.

exactly, which is why more & more folks lately(lakoff, wallis & others) have been talking about the need to articulate the what, how, and why the shared values are...

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/dgoobl/blackvoters.jpg

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

omg

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 6 November 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Newark, NJ

interesting. your Dad voted against what most people around him were for every time with the exception of post-Watergate.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think he has very much in common with most independents.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

oh wait, he went with the majority in 64 too. but who didn't?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha. dig the subtlety of this campaign mailer from upstate NY

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

As a longtime lurker on this thread who lives in Memphis, I've got to come out of the closet on this question about where Ford is ideologically: Wherever he thinks he needs to be to win.

I've never once detected any principles whatsoever with Ford. He's an empty suit. A total phony.

I'm voting for him tomorrow for the obvious reason, but I sort of hope the Dems take the Senate without him.

chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 6 November 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Most independants don't have a lot in common with eachother, other than a lack of party affiliation.

Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

they like winners

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Winners like Gary Andersen!

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Gary & Silvia Andersen?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

On "The Today Show" Bill O'Reilly predicted a "low turnout -- 30 to 35%."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

what was his stated reasoning, assuming he had anyway?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

had any, rather

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

"low turnout -- 30 to 35%."

uh, isn't that actually the AVERAGE turnout?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Um. Isn't that approx the same percentage that voted in 2004?

(xpost!)

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

As a reflexive response to O'Reilly's prediction, I just emailed my entire department with a reminder to go vote.

Of course, the majority of them are Republicans. How do you surpress the Republican vote?

Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Um. Isn't that approx the same percentage that voted in 2004?

Yeah! I think the percentage was 34.3 or something.

His rather addled reasoning was that people are depressed and will stay home (since he doesn't talk to any Democrats who aren't Pelosian "secular-progressives" he must know what he's talking about)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

How do you surpress the Republican vote?

Dear, you ask polling station workers to conduct literacy tests.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

remind them to vote libertarian?

xpost

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Arrange to ship one voting machine each to Plymouth and Edina.

Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

How do you surpress the Republican vote?

http://www.detroitfunk.com/images/FEB05/kerriganknee001.jpg

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/bingo275/septoct05/christiescoverblank.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

this is pure spin and "lowering expectations" (for lack of a better word). that is, if the dems DO win both the house and senate, or even just one house w/ greater-than-expected numbers, they can then say "well, this election the turnout was low so it really isn't a MANDATE" or something like that. it's of a piece more GOP spin that even if the Democrats pick up 20 or 30 House seats tomorrow, it's still no big deal.

i mean really guys, we've been dealing with this kind of transparent GOP shit for over a decade now!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Based on absolutely nothing, I predict a very slim Democratic majority in the House and the Republicans retaining control of the Senate.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

I still think the chart at the very top is the most accurate prediction.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

most Independents are people who probably lean one way but like enough things about the other party (or dislike enough things about their own) to be susceptible to going the other way based on a) personality, b) how well the candidate matches up with their read on the issues, and/or c) environment. liking winners isn't all, and it's a bit of a chicken-vs-egg thing, but there's definitely a core group in the middle that follows the tide and it seems to be growing.

Winners like Gary Andersen!

you mean John? my take is most of his supporters were essentially Northeastern Rockefeller Republicans and Western/Midwestern conservative Democrats. in '80, they were seriously disenchanted with the Carter environment and personality, but deemed Reagan too mean/extreme on personality/issues, and in the race between malaise man and the movie actor, no one looked like a winner, so the more involved voted Anderson and the less involved stayed home - Reagan barely broke 50%. Four years later, the climate had changed, Reagan won the personality contest hands down, and most of these people were persuaded to come over, giving him the morning in america glow that turned out those who want to vote for a winner. in '88, the climate and issues were even, there were no personalities and no winners. Bush held onto enough of the independents, but some went back to the Dems, and many stayed home. in '92, the climate had changed, Clinton had the personality and the issues and he and Perot took the indies away. the Dems have kept most of the Northeasterners and some of the Mid/Westerners ever since, while the rest stayed with Perot and then moved towards the GOP when it took on a more rural cast, won the personality contest, and gave off the apperance of greater friendliness on the issues. that group has slowly developed second thoughts over the last few years and is the reason why some Dems seek a 'Western strategy'.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Does this make any difference? is this story getting any coverage? (has this been mentioned?)

Editorial opens fire on Rumsfeld

Four US military journals have called for Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to quit, accusing him of losing control of the situation in Iraq.
cf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6120856.stm

pscott (elwisty), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Novak predictions

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

fyi those military publications have all called for Rumsfeld's resignation before - story buried in press, of course ("I listen to mah genruls!")

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

my dad's a So Cal liberal Dem. He worked for Anderson in '80.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

(he certainly never voted for fucking Reagan)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha. he still has to bash Dean and praise the DLC types.

xp

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

there was a fair sized piece on it on BBC news at 10 tonite in the UK. i thought it would get some coverage if john kerry telling a bad joke can. also i am spectacularly naive. obviously. they were saying it was gonna have a bearing on the polls but if no in america knows i guess it won't...

xp

pscott (elwisty), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

early voting looks good for Ron Klein

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

to be fair, I think pretty much everyone in the country is aware that Rumsfeld is a colossal fuckup - except for Dubya. I don't think Rumsfeld's winning any popularity contests, even amongst the hardcore right. At least that's what Ned's regular blog-trawling tends to reveal.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

from today:

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9823/thatonepartyla8.jpg

"Y'know, that one party..."

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

(so I don't think the army brass chiming in really impacts things one way or the other)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

my dad's a So Cal liberal Dem. He worked for Anderson in '80.

Wasn't Anderson a moderate Republican (i.e. what Reagan became post-'84)?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

lol 'four us military journals' - army times, NAVY times, etc all same editorial, um four branches of same paper basically, no affiliation w/ 'army brass' (hence able to do this w/out it being yknow a call for a coup d'etat though it's still one holy shit step shy). i'm pretty sure (or i hope at least) dan meant gary anderson btw - dude's from minnesota.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

apropos to nothing, i just learned from reading an "american prospect" online article that one of the co-founders of 70s pussy-soft-rock band orleans is running for a house seat in an NYC suburban district.

snark aside -- this is interesting. heath shuler and THIS dude?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, he just might win too (but don't bet on it)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

I think NY-25 flips before NY-19 though

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

final Stu Rothenberg predicts

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Rumsfeld's winning any popularity contests, even amongst the hardcore right. At least that's what Ned's regular blog-trawling tends to reveal.

Oh, there's *plenty* of Rumsfeld love around still, don't underestimate it. Some of it quite embarrassing by any standard...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Lopez angles to be communications director for a reelected Senator Santorum.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

if she really thinks that santorum is going to be re-elected, she's smoking crack.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

My brain fairly aches to remember whether the Democrats were this deluded in 1994.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

this isn't a midterm election per se but i just wanted to bring to your attention this heartwarming photo of Ct. Gov. M. Jodi Rell. (who is on the ballot today), Gavin MacLeod and some random Connecticut moppet thrilling to the sounds of the Connecticut Miniature State Troopers Choir.

http://www.ct.gov/governorrell/lib/governorrell/montageSep06b.jpg

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

oh what the hell, I'll (over-optimistically) call the races

Senate - Dems take 6, all but AZ and TN

House - Dems take 34...
AZ-5 (Hayworth)
AZ-8 (open)
CA-11 (Pombo)
CO-4 (Musgrave)
CO-7 (open)
CT-2 (Simmons)
CT-4 (Shays)
CT-5 (Johnson)
FL-13 (open)
FL-16 (Foley)
FL-22 (Shaw)
IA-1 (open)
ID-1 (open)
IL-6 (open)
IN-2 (Chocola)
IN-8 (Hostettler)
IN-9 (Sodrel)
KY-3 (Northup)
MN-1 (Gutknecht)
NH-2 (Bass)
NM-1 (Wilson)
NY-20 (Sweeney)
NY-24 (open)
NY-25 (Walsh)
NC-11 (Taylor)
OH-1 (Chabot)
OH-2 (Schmidt)
OH-15 (Pryce)
OH-18 (open)
PA-6 (Gerlach)
PA-7 (Weldon)
PA-10 (Sherwood)
TX-22 (open)
WA-8 (Reichert)

I think the GOP narrowly keeps AZ-1, KY-4, MN-6, NY-26, NY-29, PA-8, VA-2, and WI-8.

Wildcards
KS-2 (Ryun)
NV-3 (Porter)
OH-12 (Tiberi)
PA-4 (Hart)
WY-AL (Cubin)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 07:27 (nineteen years ago)


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