Last week, hanging out with a friend, he said that the family across the street from him has a dog which barks every time they leave their house (from inside the house). Loud and constant. He's talked to them and they said that it can't be that loud for the rest of the neighbours, but it is because it's noticed.
He hypothetically suggests that dogs be banned from urban populations.
I think that noise bylaws might be vague with regards to dogs during the day. Do most dog owners think that neighbours should have to put up with their pets barking throughout the day? Do dog owners notice the barking? Would you dogs owners on ILE be offended if your neighbours approached you about complaints about barking that you feel is "normal"?
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)
This Tragic Fucking Dog, My Piece Of Shit Neighbors
― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)
I'd never keep a dog in a city, but that's me. It's not something you can ban. Though do dog licenses have to be backed up with any kind of description of how large a dog and/or space you plan on keeping?
― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)
I think expecting complete silence from pets is unrealistic but being respectful of neighbors is important. We don't leave our dogs out while we are at work.
Do dog owners notice the barking? Sometimes, if it seems abnormal for the dogs.
Would you dogs owners on ILE be offended if your neighbours approached you about complaints about barking that you feel is "normal"? No, but I might bring up their chickens that are allowed to wander everywhere.
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)
Seems to me simpler than banning - which would penalise responsible dog owners much more than licensing.
Especially when linked to that Austrian "dog ownership training" idea.
No dog license, doggie taken away from you. Money raised by licensing to help keep and rehouse confiscated dogs with responsible owners.
― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)
The dog across the street from my friend is barking from INSIDE the house while the neighbours are at work. And its loud and heard inside my friend's house.
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)
Barely moved all day, apart from a brief excursion out of shot about the time that the postman normally comes.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)
obv. this is something we can't know unless a neighbor complained. Normally the dogs only bark when other dogs walk by or the postman comes, so I doubt they do otherwise during the day..
Also all of our neighbors are gone working during the day as well and they all also have dogs so it's not really an issue.
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)
Again, he's talked to them and they said that it can't be that loud for the rest of the neighbours because its "just normal barking".
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)
One possible reason for dogs to get agitated in yr absence is that they're not totally secure with your authority in the house when you're NOT THERE. Ie, if the dog doesn't feel like you're still in charge even in your absence, he could easily think that HE has to be in charge, to protect his/your territory. It's a receipe for fear & stress in dogs. Don't know how to solve, precisely, besides working on a more secure attachment in general.
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)
Also:http://online.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/dog-whisperer.jpg
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)
laurel absolutely OTM on the whole pack leader theory. the kids got to know who is in charge. if the pup thinks noone is in charge it results in barking all day long type chaos.
thats downright retarded.
― sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)
Hrrrmmmm. It would be kind of great if I could get a similar "box" for my mum sometimes. ;-)
― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)
To feed to the students, hopefully.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)
also, if you ever get sick of walking dogs make your next dog a great dane. laziest dogs on the planet. two blocks and theyre ready to go home. they also sleep about 18 hours a day. theyre like gigantic cats. the only problem you'll have is fighting 120lbs for couch space.
― sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)
Young dogs especially are a lot of work! Normally they'd have a mother or pack leader to keep them in line and if you're not prepared to be home with them ALL THE TIME, you'd better find a way to keep them out of things until you get back to restore order. Crating vs. tying them to the bathroom doorknob with an 8' lead.
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)
- stealing your bologna, peanut butter, and chocolate sundae sandwiches right as you've squashed them down to mouth size for consumption
- poor voice control affecting the plausibility of your "Chinese restaurant" routine for distracting ghosts
- jumping into your arms when something scary happens, so your cowardly escape is slightly slowed down by their weight
- having smug, annoying little puppy cousins who won't stop visiting
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)
I'm not one to tell people what to do but I'm thinking if your space is so small and your dog so big that a crate is impossible. . .you shouldn't be owning that dog. I've always felt sorry for big dogs who live in tiny apartments.
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)
Now when I leave the house he just stays in the bedroom where his bed is now. He likes to look out the window during the day and just hangs out. He is also spoiled and still gets taken out 5 times a day.
― eatadick.com (Carey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)
― eatadick.com (Carey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
― patita (patita), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)
The people out the back of us, though, have a dog that sits in misery in the back garden, day and night, and barks its head off at 3am. I hate them, and I hate their dog. But what can you do? Some people are inconsiderate assholes.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 14 September 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)
I don't really understand why people, who work during the day, have a dog. I'd feel extremely sad if Lucy would be all alone during the day (and I would also wonder what the hell she was doing). Maybe I'm being a bit naive when it comes to dogs being social animals who need company...
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 14 September 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 14 September 2006 06:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)
Or, worse still, ground-up indestructable rubber toys.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)
― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)
― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)
Oh I bet our dogs could make work of this.
― Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)