Coogan Vs Gervais.

(and what chap said)

They both really only ever play one character, and I prefer Coogan's. Simple as. He's also worked with by far the superior co-leads and writers.

doesn't mean he's not funny

it's close, though. but not that close.
i don't rate Extras.

as the one i'd rather have a pint with: gervais.

and this is an argument for gervais?

Even "Something that tells you that you are right and everyone else is wrong".

http://epistaxis.stodge.org/archives/date/2005/03/

Still the funniest half-hour of radio not masterminded by Chris Morris or Humphrey Lyttelton.

'the office' is good but its reputation has been inflated out of all proportion.

Or 'funny'?

Coogan is good at 'painful'. Paved the way on TV etc.

Louis is right inasmuch as Hamlet is clearly a v funny piss-take of Jacobean tragedies.

Though yeah, some comedy has arguably moved away from 'funny', it gets its laughs elsewhere these days.

Little Britain isn't the biggest, I guess. That would be the tea-time Jamie Theakston kiddicom that they screened about two or three years back.

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The blog, tadpolehitler.com (as bizarre as that sounds) has had nearly a quarter of a million page views in three months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY

even more irritating is the belief that steven merchant is somehow the real brains behind the office, radio shows etc. his stand-up show from a couple of years back demolishes that idea. just hard for some bros to compute that certain people react really really badly to acclaim, fame, praise etc and turn into what gervais did about a decade back

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I think most people gave up on this after the Hello Ladies tv show

couldn't face watching it but a quick google brings the cheery news that hbo cancelled it in january. if anything merchant was always worse than gervais. in the early radio stuff what little he said was more unpleasant than funny, lot of sneery sexist hateful stuff. always got the impression gervais let him piggyback along because he got on with him, rather than for his input - SM's voice hardly as strong as pilkington's, say. rumours floating around that RG and SM aren't on best terms lately, working on separate projects, not been seen on screen/radio/public together for a long time, SM no longer credited on derek or idiot abroad, etc

I don't remember that from the radio days. I thought he was a pretty good teller of anecdotes then.

maybe i've re-evaluated him post-hello ladies but on a recent listen through all the podcasts and shows he doesn't add much to the party

Watching a repeat of Saxondale on Gold... As dull and joke free as I remember. Will anyone rep for it however many years on?

aww i kinda like saxondale tbh

He's a well-observed character, just not a particularly interesting or funny one.

I rewatched some / watched some I hadn't seen before earlier in the year and enjoyed it a lot. chap basically otm though

maybe i've re-evaluated him post-hello ladies but on a recent listen through all the podcasts and shows he doesn't add much to the party

as opposed to Ricky, who brings screeching mockery and abuse in lieu of anything funny or well-observed. at least Merchant tries to keep the conversation moving forward.

well, it's all about karl innit. his stoicism in the face of ricky's ott reactions is why it works so well. the russell brand/karl radio show is an interesting one; two v funny guys (imo) but such little chemistry and the whole thing falls flat. it's as if karl feeds off ricky's obnoxious abusive energy

I think it's really cool how he's become david brent, obviously would be cooler if he was doing it intentionally as a performance piece Kaufman-style but it's still really amusing

Love Saxondale; think it's an underappreciated, quiet masterpiece.

watched a few episodes, liked it, never went back for more tho

neither would be that awesome to have a pint with I reckon.

Coogan would be a fine drinking companion if he was in a good mood I reckon (I am basing this largely on The Trip).

Gervaise I'd imagine would be more verbose, insufferably so.

yeah, i feel that coogan would just despise you the whole time (otherwise, could well be a laugh).

Gervais on the other hand may just be annoying.

Or perhaps we would all just be doing rounds of Ladyboys.

Ah ladyboys!

Though I think it's entirely possible Gervais is a much nicer man than his public persona would suggest.

saxondale is wonderful

the alan partridge movie was terrible; don't expect a david brent movie to be good either. both of these guys are better than those characters these days. I watched a few episodes of Derek and found it rather good. A little GErvais goes a long way.

i could not watch more than 30 seconds of derek without screaming with disgust and shame

akm's post is wrong on almost every level

I aim to displease

are you going to tell me alpha papa was funny? or good? or at all worth the time I invested in watching it, desperately waiting for something funny to happen?

http://static.bips.channel4.com/bse/604x340/derek/caf0a7d8-c8e5-4c6e-92bf-54d9eb3cda14_625x352.jpg

It...had its moments

The biography and Mid Morning Matters are up there with anything in the Partridge oeuvre though, so I don't think it's fair to say Coogan has outgrown the character. If anything his understanding of him has grown deeper

Also you like Derek

I have never seen Derek, can it really be as bad as it looks?

http://returnonx.com/netflix-belikederek-campaign-grows-audience-gains-11-engagement/

The social media campaign is built around the idea of being kind and generous to the elderly. Posts from the @BeLikeDerek Twitter shows daily acts of kindness and encourages fans to tweet their favorite lines from the show using the hashtag #BeLikeDerek.

god, I hadn't come across this before, but the one person I've met who used to frequently evangelise about the brilliance of Gervais generally (and Derek specifically) was a 'social media guru' employed at my workplace

Alpha Papa is about as funny as you'd expect an Alan Partridge movie to be and doesn't feature a lot of learning disability jokes as far as i remember

i could not watch more than 30 seconds of derek without screaming with disgust and shame

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alpha papa was hilarious

Watched the first episode of Derek and it was horribly depressing and offensive, though possibly more entertaining than Hello Ladies, which was just nothing.

The biography and Mid Morning Matters are up there with anything in the Partridge oeuvre though, so I don't think it's fair to say Coogan has outgrown the character. If anything his understanding of him has grown deeper

The version of Alan in Alpha Papa is deliberately broader, and the world sketched in lighter, than in We Need To Talk About Alan and Welcome To The Places Of My Life , because it was made to be a wide-audience general-release film. The storytelling alone in Welcome To The Places is vastly more sophisticated. But there has been more high-level Alan material since the Gibbons started writing him than at any time in the character’s history. (Possibly even in total – the audiobook, as performed by Coogan, alone is almost eight hours!)

sic otm. that audiobook is the balls.

Partridge >>>>>>>>>>> Coogan

Everyone otm

The Pepsi challenge bit in welcome would prob be in my top 10 moments for the character

"Who gives a shit?"

That whole plot thread was handled so deftly, imagine how gervais/merchant would have done it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh8ihMWFV-I

Coogan and Brydon will do these dining travelogues til they drop

Coogan edges it for me for not being Gervais

Has Twitter been good for your comedy? It has. I can see a cross section of society a thousand times faster than I could’ve otherwise. I’ve got 13 million followers. That’s the world, really. I’ll tweet, “What’s a subject you should never joke about?” Some people fall for the trap and say something like, “Psoriasis.” Then I can come up with 10 minutes on that.

Sounds like a good 10 minutes.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/19/magazine/ricky-gervais-after-life-comedy-twitter.html

You might want to spend less time on social media. I’m fine as long as I can properly calibrate what’s there online and also still remember to walk outside in the sun.

That sounds like a drug addict saying, “I’m fine as long as I balance my uppers and downers.” I could be wrong. But no, I know I’m not.

RICKY G's CUT JOKES

"Surprised to see Tom Hanks here. I thought you died of AIDS!"

"Ellen's texting her pal George W. Bush, the finest murderer-turned-painter since John Wayne Gacy."

"If you think Elton John's hair rug is disturbing, you should get a peek at his fake pubes." pic.twitter.com/iOIuxLRUXw

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) January 6, 2020

Steve Coogan is heavily involved in this film, and acts in it with a strange accent which sounds like Steve Coogan but intermittently Scottish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_King

Unfortunately the film is bad, though not because of Coogan.

Yeah the posters for that on the tube make it look very dire.

Still, unbelievable anyone could answer Gervais to this.

Yeah it looks shite, he is also playing Jimmy Saville in an upcoming thing which seems disastrously misjudged to me. Still easily better than fucking gervais tho lol cmon wtf

i would simply not fuck gervais

time to fuck sauron