How attached to you to physical media

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I'm normally a new technology standard bearer but I am still very attached to the physical product when it comes to my consumption of media. Records, CDs, books, magazines I love them all and eps. I really can't see myself moving from paper to eBooks when the time comes. I guess the only thing I am less into preserving the old ways in are cinema, TV and Radio where I am a vast consumer of podcasts and BBC's listen again and can't wait for reliable cheap movie downloads.

How's your media life changing?

Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

magazines and books I still do hard copy.

Music definitely and moreso tv/film I'm digital only. Can't remember I bought a physical CD (as opposed to buying downloads) and can't imagine why I would. i don't even burn CDs anymore. too much hassle.

Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Irrationally attached, and my cluttered house proves it. Books, magazines, DVDs, CDs... plus the kids have their own collections of some of that. I still prefer to buy a CD over downloading an album; for one thing I never back my computer's hard drive up (yes, I know I should). I think I like to have the solid object in my hand, too.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

BBC News had a puff piece last night about how vinyl single sales are more than a million a year for the first time in ages. Which I don't understand in the slightest, as I couldn't care less about how the music is distributed before it hits the iPod.

Some books I love if they're well-made on creamy paper etc, others are just a way of transferring words. I used an ebook reader for a while, and it was fantastic. I churned through the books on it much faster than on paper, too. I've given away hundreds of books in the past few months, and now I have BookMooch that'll be going up.

Print still rules for photography.


stet (stet), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'd still much rather buy a CD than download the tracks. I like to have rambling sprawling collections of books, CDs etc, I know you can have a poorly maintained collection of MP3's etc, but it's not the same. Once the computer is off, they are not there - just leaves you with more space to fill. I like clutter.

I'd rather go to the cinema to watch a film, and it's just easier to record a TV show or watch it when it's on. The idea of downloading films/TV programmes just seems too time consuming - if it's not instantaneous it has no advantage - and I mean, download to media device. Oh, but someone along the line you've got fiddle around with some kinda file, urrrggghh.

And, I won't be seriously interested in new media devices until the day you never have to charge them up.

I was happy as it was about 10 years ago.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Plus we just replace like with like, nothing is really new.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

i've got way too much shit, i'm quite happy keeping my entire record collection on an external HD the size of a paperback, and i'm beginning to wish it would fail so i could start again but not amass so much rubbish

i can't move for books either but ebooks i can't get excited about

The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I guess an acid test would be: Would you be happier at finding an obscure CD by a band you once liked, as opposed to finding an MP3 of it?

jel -- (jel), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

if i really like an album i have to buy a cd copy, or at least burn one

latebloomer aka 'the sun' (latebloomer), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Generally with music. I buy the CD (or vinyl) rip at 320Kbps and put away. One thing that puts me off iTunes is the audibly shonky bitrate.

Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I guess an acid test would be: Would you be happier at finding an obscure CD by a band you once liked, as opposed to finding an MP3 of it?

I wouldn't really care either way -- but I find it much easier to get the obscure stuff, particularly covers done live, as MP3s.

OTM about films: the cinema stomps all over DVDs. T/S: £10 a month for a screen the size of a bus and a stereo running into the hundreds of thousands vs a too-dear 30" TV and five speakers with cables everywhere.

stet (stet), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I guess an acid test would be: Would you be happier at finding an obscure CD by a band you once liked, as opposed to finding an MP3 of it?

I agree with Stet: couldn't care. either way I get to hear it.

Sam: Screwed and Chopped (Molly Jones), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Xpost to the same message as everyone else:

well at least in the olden days of audiogalaxy et al, I was happier at finding obscure MP3s as those things might actually appear. As opposed to seeing one in a shop at one point over ten years and have to pay bigbux or kiss it farewell...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

How attached am I? I always keep my nose inside a book, that's how attached I am.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I've finally had the realization that everyone was supposed to have, like, five years ago: that I don't buy CDs nearly as often as I used to and THEREFORE I don't listen to albums as much as I used to and IN ADDITION I miss listening to (new (to me)) albums. Even if I'll just rip it onto my hd/ipod after I buy it, there's something about going to a shop and coming home with a material thing that--leaving aside fetishization--makes me take more seriously the album qua album. Probably just growing up before mp3's, I suppose.

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've definitely had to make changes to make sure I listen to new albums properly -- custom playlists etc.

stet (stet), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

fairly attatched to records, much less attatched to CDs and will probably sell mine off when i get my arse in gear.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Newspapers are much more pleasant to read, but if you get daily delivery they can become a real nuissance unless you're very conscientious about keeping them neat.

I will always subscribe to the print New Yorker, because I don't want to take my laptop into the bathroom.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Even though eMusic has pretty much cut my CD-buying by 80% lately, I miss having physical objects to hold and look at. Owning something on my computer just doesn't feel like ownership.

In a way though, I think the CD's decline was partly it's own fault, as, unlike a record, it was never a particularly aesthetically pleasing, fetishizable object.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

haven't bought a paper in years, and hardly any mags; but i will never go over to ebooks, i doubt. as is i print out a lot of stuff to read.

don't care about bitrates &c., though i do prefer cds -- still don't know how to shot p2p and i doubt i'll get into serious torrentage.

dvds are better than cinema partly because tv is better than cinema. i don't watch that many 90-100 minute films any more; and the films i do want to see (ie old films) are much easier to get on dvd.

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Even if I'll just rip it onto my hd/ipod after I buy it, there's something about going to a shop and coming home with a material thing that--leaving aside fetishization--makes me take more seriously the album qua album. Probably just growing up before mp3's, I suppose.

I have the same feeling, but I don't think it's very far removed from fetishization or hmmm-ism, it's just a bit more unconscious. I find myself listening to downloaded albums 4 or 5 times before I feel like I've "heard" them in that assayed, catalogue-y way I "hear" cds I pop into the car radio. The fact there's just a lot of mediocre shit passing through my desktop obscures the issue of course. I kind of grew up with tapes and cds so vinyl still kind of smacks of novelty to me, no matter how sold I am when I hear Teddy Pendergrass in a cd vs. vinyl taste test. I dunno

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Not very attached at all to CDs. It's been a pleasure to unload the containers and still have the contents. I had a couple of really big vinyl purges that were tougher because I didn't digitize the music first. Still pretty attached to books, but I'm finding it really easy to switch to reading comics onscreen instead of on paper.

Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah movies -- Outside of cinema, I'm a confirmed renter (i've been a 'collector' many times over and I still don't understand the impulse to own a movie) so computer files would be cool in theory; my only requirement is that I can rewind and move around when I'm at home. My TV screen is scarcely bigger than my computer screen so no biggie. books rule.

comic books -- I hadn't read them in 10 years but I've taken to the computer comic readers. When I used to read it was like the pages turned themselves without me realizing and the same happens onscreen CHECK. YEAH.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Zero attachment to most everything except for good reproduction art books and the few pieces of vinyl I've kept.

Still need books for the train trip though, but I don't mind giving them away.

What I really want is a good way to archive the stacks of old zines, print clippings, I've collected. I'd sell off my run of Ptolemaic Terrascope if I could just push a button and instantly get a set of high-quality PDFs.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 18 September 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Less so as I've gotten older. I like a book to read, but I don't need to own it - libraries and second-hand shops are my friends. I only buy newspapers if I'm going to be on public transport for a while, or at the weekend. Sunday papers are always good.

Music, I don't care so much about physically owning stuff. There was a time when I really really did, and I won't get rid of a lot of my old vinyl because there's an association with how much it meant to me at the time, even though I wouldn't have that obsession with it now.

I own a whole stack of films on DVD which I never watch. I am a rubbish consumer, by and large. Owning stuff is wasted on me.

I still watch TV the normal way too. Watch stuff as it's transmitted on TV, recording to watch later if it isn't. T0rr3nting means that stuff would just join the stack of film DVDs I never watch. Though when nice people do me copies of things like Lost and old TV shows that don't get repeated that I would like to see again, I really appreciate it. I would never think to do it myself though. I am quite luddite about things, really.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a high-attachment book collector, currently struggling to prune the collection as we pack to move. So far, we are averaging 1 box of discards for every 10 boxes of books packed, although I might have upped it to 2.5 discard boxes per 10 of keepers today when I was feeling ruthless.

Why do I have all these books? I've read maybe half of the fiction and won't read it again. But, I loan books out, so someone sometime in the future may want to read these books and when that time comes I WILL HAVE IT to loan to them. And then I'll be the hero. Or something. I really can't justify all of them. But it comforts me to have them around.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 18 September 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

"Best Buy Prepares for the Post-DVD Era"

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/best-buy-prepares-for-the-post-dvd-era/

kshighway1, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

“All these guys — Best Buy, Blockbuster and Netflix — realize is that the era of the boxed DVD is about to end,” said Tim Bajarin, president of Creative Strategies, a technology consulting firm. “They all have to make the transition to the next generation of movie distribution, streaming directly to the consumer.”

kshighway1, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

^ this same stuff gets reported every week. I mean, it's going to come true eventually, but it's years down the line. The problems are format compatibility, a maze of usage rights legal issues that companies have to navigate and deal with, and a lack of a current audiences. College students stream stuff all the time, but who really has a dedicated home theater PC besides a select few videophiles? Apple TV flounders around without dedicated Apple support, all these streaming media startups fail to make their mark, and internet bandwidth still sucks. Netflix is the one exception that leaves me hopeful, but considering that the only real way to get DVD-quality video or better is the PS3/XBOX movie rental service or to download torrents, I'm pretty skeptical.

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:38 (sixteen years ago)

otm

mark cl, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

The idea, said Chris Homeister, senior vice president for entertainment at Best Buy, is to let consumers pay once for a DVD and then eventually be able to play it on any device: television, Blu-ray disc player, personal computer, handheld media player or smartphone.

This I find the most far-fetched idea in the article. It sounds like the exact scenario that media industries have been rallying AGAINST the last couple decades.

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/1/5670786/sony-earnings-adjustment-impairment-charges

markers, Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:11 (twelve years ago)


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