I give this thread maybe a dozen posts or less before Squirrel Police and/or Nude Spock come along and do their very best to completely ruin any chance at a genuine conversation with their insipid babble, but there are a few things in this report that I wasn't aware of - the Try One recruitment drive by the National Guard, for example. Completely livid as usual.
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)
Given that widespread condemnation,one might reasonably ask why doublespeakseems to be flourishing. The short answer isthat government officials have an incentiveto lie and misrepresent their actions so thatthey can expand, or at least maintain, theirpower. When the citizenry is fed false information,it is costly for skeptics to undertakean investigation of the various issues in orderto learn the truth. Politicians and bureaucratsexploit this disadvantage to the fullestin order to shape political outcomes to theirliking.
The American people must recognizethese odious tactics for what they are andremain vigilant about our Constitution andindividual liberty. Too many people seem tothink that the Constitution will automaticallycheck the government from oversteppingits authority and running amok. That simplyis not true. The Constitution is incapable ofenforcing itself. The ultimate limit on thepower of government has always been thepatience of the people. As Judge LearnedHand warned many years ago, “Liberty lies inthe hearts of men and women; [if] it diesthere, no constitution, no law, no court cansave it.”
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)
― IPSISSIMUS (Uri Frendimein), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)
― No Suntan, No Credibility (noodle vague), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)
― No Suntan, No Credibility (noodle vague), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear is a man. Do not shoot him. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)
xpost what do you mean?
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)
― No Suntan, No Credibility (noodle vague), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)
First, a draft must be impartially conducted or it will not be fair and equitable. Considering what is at stake (the draftee's life and limbs) fairness is a must. First and foremeost, this means no student deferments and few deferments for any reasons other than medical unfitness.
Second, when you institute an impartial draft, then you are randomly placing young men into extreme jeopardy against their will. This kind of force cannot be justified except for purposes of national survival or something very near to that importance. Since there is no question that the survival of the USA is not in jeopardy, and no evidence that unlimited military force is required for equally important national goals, then there is no justification for a draft.
The reason for debating a draft at this time is to force the government and the public to confront the relative importance of the war in Iraq and therefore make it more accountable for its decisions and its irresponsible rhetoric. The threat of a draft would undoubtedly stimulate a more serious national debate on the merits of war and peace. But an actual draft at this time would be unjust, imo.
― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)
It all started when Corporate Personhood accidentally became a legal reality with more rights than any actual living human being.
― IPSISSIMUS (Uri Frendimein), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)
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― señor citizen (eman), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)
This comment is just plain historically unfactual. Plenty of middle class kids were drafted, sent to Vietnam and died there in 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970 and beyond -- and the war continued. It only ended when Saigon fell.
― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)