Defend the indefensible: Josie Long

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You remember that AMERICANS VS ENGLISHES: WHO FUNNIER? thread from about a year or so back? Turns out the Americans were right.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

It ain't just stand-up though! She's gonna revolutionise sketch comedy as well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvyulXcj32g

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Hang on, I've been thinking Josie Long was Laura Solon.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was Robin Ince with a less girly haircut.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Right, that's it, I'm getting a show at the Fringe next year. I too am dull, charmless and inarticulate. And not funny. Hurrah, millions of money, here I come!

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

YouTube Tags: 'amateur', 'whimsy', 'indiegirl'

ouch

The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

(I really hope this is the person that Carsmile Steve had been to see when I met him in the pub in Edinburgh and he said he'd just seen the indiest comedienne in the world)

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

yeh i think it was. indiest translates as best for him!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Wikipedia: At only 18 she gave up stand-up whilst she read English at Oxford University.

The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I could defend her, I suppose. When we both went to the same residential summer camp she was very pleasant and popular, although in her final week she did rename the yearly 'Talent Night' into 'An Audience With Josie Long (and selected others)'.

I haven't kept track of her career since she left, but it had come to my attention recently that she had a nice line in stand-up comedy, and was doing the festival circuits with some success. I haven't seen nor heard any of her material, so I can't comment on that (yet, I'll check the links), but I did know her when she was younger, and she did seem a decent, if slightly attention-seeking (well, who isn't? ;-D) kinda gal.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't even know who she is.

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

although in her final week she did rename the yearly 'Talent Night' into 'An Audience With Josie Long (and selected others)'

i hope this was deliberately 'ironic'

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

she was a contemporary of mine at university apparently. well, she couldn't have known everyone.

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, having viewed Dom's first clip, it seems that the poor lass hasn't aged too well since I was 13. :(

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

give her a chance that was only six months ago (POW!)

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

what was this summer camp btw?

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

yeh i think it was. indiest translates as best for him!

He was so enthusiastic about how great it was. I worry for him. Does she make badges and stuff - him and Mrs Carsmile had little home-made badges?

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Early 90s man, we probably have chms in common because a good friend of mine was at college with her too. He was impressed, and he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan.

I saw too many bad knob-gags in a former life, so I kind of want her to be good - she's doing something different, if contrived.

Mippy (Mippy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

what college was she at?

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

oh lordy she was in the revue.

(holla at ya boy, jack, 99 style)

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, it was her (xpost to myself)

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Other reasons for rejoicing for Long, and ultimately for her audience, however sceptical, include her seeing a goth in a suit and imagining how proud he must be that he can loiter on the dark side and still hold a job down at the bank. She's not averse to a few negative observations, either, and rightly joshes people who drink lager on public transport.

it doesn't take very much to get some people rejoicing, does it?

goths -- they have jobs, amirite?

people who drink on buses -- put it away, guys... haha, the guys know what i'm talking about.

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh fuck...the one with the squeaky mound, if that means anything to you.

Mippy (Mippy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

new.

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

posh!

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

They bathed in Pimms everyday in between inventing Welsh poetry and new forms of fuzzy rock.

Mippy (Mippy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/drawingmoustachesinmagazinesmonthlymagazine

HER BLOG/PODCAST!

"I have a shower gel called Mandate!" (30 seconds of laughter)

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Followed up with a gag about lynching, weirdly. Way to keep the tempo going.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

New College = St. John's Cambridge equivalent, then? Rah-rah we've-got-more-dosh-than-you exclusivism?

'This summer camp' was a week-long course held in a residential study centre in the Home Counties for a week. It was encouraged to help gifted children interact with one another and undertake fun, intelectually-stimulating extra-curricular activities by day and night. Naturally, most people there were a little off their nut, but I myself absolutely loved it, especially towards the end, when I appreciated quite how much the course had done for my previously-negligent social skills.

Ah, the bygone days of youth...

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

You could have, you know, left the house at some point as a child, that's a pretty standard way to help "learn" "social" "skills".

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, so defending the indefensible:

She makes me think I could also have a career as a stand-up comedienne

CarsmileSteve likes her

This isn't a good defence, is it? Still, best I can do under the circumstances.

(I got sent to one of those summer camps for gifted children things when I was about 12. This is one of the reasons why I decided I'd rather concentrate on social skills than academia. It cocked up the balance of my life so much that I ended up spending the rest of my time at school attempting to look completely stupid, rather than be associated with the sort of people who get made to go to summer camps for gifted children)

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw her recently, she is pretty incredibly good. Not exactly Emo Phillips, but then that's not so much a problem these days. INDIE AS FUCK, though.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

How can you compare US and British stand-up, anyways? EXPLICAR

Mippy (Mippy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha one of the "YouTube recommends" links is the Mountain Goats:)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

How can you compare US and British stand-up, anyways? EXPLICAR

In the same way that you can compare US and British teeth.

ZING.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

She makes me think I could also have a career as a stand-up comedienne

...albeit a shit one, obviously.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Dom, most of my outings were, alas, to nature reserves. My relationships with our avian friends were the more fully-formed at that point. :(

I learnt to blend social skills and academia, by ditching 'uncool' subjects like Science, and concentrating upon the 'arty' and the articulate. It helped that quite a few people on the summer camp were pretty cool on anyone's scale. Josie Long included, of course. ;-)

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Can't remember the last new stand-up performer I really liked. Maybe Dave Gorman altho that's cooled down a bit.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

See, you think science (and the people associated with it) is "uncool". I just think I got my entire teenage years wrong as a result of a chance encounter with a bunch of socially-retarded fun-hating kids with pushy parents and no-one wise to tell me that I couldn't be somewhere inbetween smart and popular, and not being mature enough to suss it out for myself. Years of actually being a grown-up have taught me where I went wrong, and have let me redress the balance.

But hey, you're the one with the social *and* the academic skills.

(xpost)

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

That's an incorrect ZING.

Mippy (Mippy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Dave Gorman is marvellous, except that horoscopes programme he did on the telly which was rubbish.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't saying I was right in thinking that! Notice the quotation marks around 'uncool'. My perception of science THEN was 'uncool'; this was I realise now a petty, small-minded and lamentable attitude. Although most of the fun-haters were scientists.

Anyway, Ailsa, didn't we promise not to have any more arguments about education? :(

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan
he's not easily impressible, what with being a Jandek fan

Dedicated to Jaggers Who Do Drive-Bys (noodle vague), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but you use "cool" without scare quotes in the next sentence. Also, you use scare quotes.

(I didn't promise anything. And this isn't an argument. Or about education.)

xpost

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Cool without 'scare quotes' indicates that they were genuinely awesome, well-rounded people.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

New College = St. John's Cambridge equivalent, then? Rah-rah we've-got-more-dosh-than-you exclusivism?

no, more... 'fast' than that. less old skool public school.
rah-rah we've-got-more-cocaine-than-you exclusivism.

st john's cambridge ox equiv = st john's oxford.

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link


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