Scientists are teleporting stuff wooooooo!

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It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Friday, 6 October 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand much of it, but this is still blowing my mind. Unless I'm readin it wrong (or they're bullshitting,) they are moving matter between two points without passing through any intervening points!

I mean, damn.

This is like FTL or time travel or perpetual motion - it just can't happen!

Can it?

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Friday, 6 October 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

it has something to do with entanglement...damn, i wish my grasp of physics was better.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

The key phrase is that they "have teleported information" a distance of about half a meter, using quantum entanglement. It can happen, because space-time is a "fabric", and altering one part of it affects distant parts - which is most easily seen in gravity.

So, for example, the moon "knows" things about the earth and the sun, across a great distance. We know that it knows, because it acts on that knowledge. In a non-measurable, but real, way the moon "knows" when you leave the room.

What is grebt about this experiment is that it was a small, but non-quantum set of information sent to a small, but non-quantum destination, which is likely to be more useful than telling the moon you have gone to the bathroom.

Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

i think this has more implications for computing than transportation

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

yeah

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

sheesh that wasnt even a finished sentence

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

In a non-measurable, but real, way the moon "knows" when you leave the room.

Doesn't that information just travel at the speed of light though? I could be wrong.

31g (31g), Friday, 6 October 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure that gravity is measurable, but i'm not a physicist, and i'm pretty baffled by entanglement, hadrons, and jets.

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 6 October 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.dinosoria.com/enigmes/experiment.jpg

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 6 October 2006 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

hadrons

this word was born to be mis-read

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Friday, 6 October 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

i obtain much hadrons

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 6 October 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

my hadron jet got entangled with your quark

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 6 October 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes i like to think about the people who lived hundreds/thousands of years ago and how they could have no possible idea of how advanced we are today. Then I like to wonder where the world will be hundreds of years after I'm gone. and my mind is blown.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 6 October 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but think this: 30 years ago people were going to the moon. They're not, now.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 6 October 2006 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

The stuff about info being teleported is even more baffling to me than the rest of the article. But, they did mention one actual physical object getting teleported:

"The experiment involved for the first time a macroscopic atomic object containing thousands of billions of atoms."

Now, I'm pretty sure thousands of billions of atoms ain't much - but it is matter and not 'merely' information.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it is matter, and it is involved, but only as a destination. No matter is being transferred.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

It was just information - they had two such objects and entangled them such that changes in one instaneously affected changes in the other. A longer article. (xpost)

I was pretty sure that such entanglement couldn't send information though - it could just affect in an unpredictable way an already unpredictable measurement. Guess I'll have to start reading up on this stuff again.

ledge (ledge), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ah ok, this "spooky action at a distance" can't send information faster than light (even though it seems to have ftl implications), and that still holds true, they're not sending anything faster than light here.

ledge (ledge), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

> No matter is being transferred.

> It was just information

Why do you hate Nightcrawler? Or more seriously, thanks for the explanation; it wasn't clear in that first blurb-ish article. I'm now reading the second one ledge linked and the wiki article on quantum entanglement to see if I can get within shouting distance of an actual idea of what all this means.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

The key phrase is that they "have teleported information" a distance of about half a meter, using quantum entanglement. It can happen, because space-time is a "fabric", and altering one part of it affects distant parts - which is most easily seen in gravity.

This is completely wrong. Learn one quantum entanglement (and one gravity).

This quote from the csmonitor article is very instructive:

"Teleportation is a really unfortunate term," says University of Michigan physicist Christopher Monroe. "It implies moving people from point A to point B," when in fact it refers to "creating a quantum state in one place that used to exist somewhere else" with no intervening connection.

Matter is not being physically transferred from one place to another, as Andrew already pointed out. There are no "faster than light" implications because entangled particles (or objects) don't need to communicate information about their respective quantum states once a measurement is made on one of them (this is *the* key aspect of what it means for particles to be entangled).

Also note that the "object" being teleported is the quantum state of a beam of light, not that of the ensemble of cesium atoms. The only reason why (I think) they used so many atoms is to produce a measureable signal during the readout stage of their experiment (when they verify the quantum state of the cesium ensemble).

As it pertains to communication schemes, teleportation is promising because it allows quantum states to be transmitted over long distances relatively easily, as opposed to certain cryptography schemes that rely on sending individual entangled particles (i.e. photons) over multiple channels.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

dear moon,

i pooped.

xo,

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

I demand
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40953000/jpg/_40953683_tardis203.jpg

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Dr Barry is teh smrt.

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Matter is not being physically transferred because there is no such thing. It is all just information. Read one Ancient Wisdom.

Butt Dickass (Dick Butkus), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

dear moon,

ur not real.

fu,

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

seems funny, don't it?

Butt Dickass (Dick Butkus), Saturday, 7 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

an entangled orange tastes just as sweet

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)


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