FOR FUCK'S SAKE (idiotic fear-based legislation alert)

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MADISON, Wis. - In the wake of school shootings in Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania during the last two weeks, a state legislator says he plans to introduce legislation that would allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons.

Rep. Frank Lasee, a Republican, said Wednesday that, while his idea may not be politically correct, it has worked effectively in other countries.

"To make our schools safe for our students to learn, all options should be on the table," he said. "Israel and Thailand have well-trained teachers carrying weapons and keeping their children safe from harm. It can work in Wisconsin."

In Thailand, where officials have been waging a bloody fight with Muslim separatists for the last two years, some teachers carry weapons for self defense as they are viewed as part of the government. In Israel, teachers are not allowed to carry weapons in the school, but security guards at the entrances are armed.

Lasee stressed that the measure would hinge on school staff members getting strict training on the use of the weapons. He also acknowledged he would have to work around a federal law that bans guns on school grounds.

The director of school safety for Milwaukee Public Schools, Pete Pochowski, expressed opposition to Lasee's proposal.

"Statistically, the safest place for a child to be is in school," Pochowski said. "We have problems in our schools, but not to the point where we need to arm our teachers and principals."

Children in countries such as Israel and Thailand are far more vulnerable to daily violence than students in America, he said.

"In the country we live in, we have a lot of freedom," Pochowski said, "and we have to expose ourselves to some danger to keep that."

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

introduce legislation that would allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons.

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― louise jaguar (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

thing is, my dad would have supported this

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

He also acknowledged he would have to work around a federal law that bans guns on school grounds.

This being the case, this sounds like pre-election posturing.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

with stuff like this, i don't know why the terrorists even bother. we're doing their work for them.

― louise jaguar (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to introduce an alternative bill that would instead require all teachers and admins to learn to do perform a deadly judo chop.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

clarification: my dad retired from teaching high school english at an inner city school 3 years ago. i think he actually filed for a CCW permit, cuz the state of Michigan is like that.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

the more i think back to some of my high school teachers, the scarier/funnier/scarier this sounds.

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

ie. nuns with guns.

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

my dad is a JROTC teacher at a "rough" (at least for the county he teaches in) high school, and heads the rifle team.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

i could see him supporting this, in his more grizzled, fatalistic moments. bu he's surprised me before.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.agwright.com/images/classof84.jpg

― 0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Friday, 6 October 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

Because of course we all want to be safe and stable like Israel and Thailand! Gah.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 6 October 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

ha, reminds me of all-time classic NY Post headline about tot who brought gun to pre-school PISTOL PACKIN' PEE-WEE

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 6 October 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

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― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 6 October 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

I just read that article as:

In Wisconsin, where officials have been waging a bloody fight with Muslim separatists for the last two years

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 6 October 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

cheesehead jihad

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 6 October 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

Israel and Thailand have well-trained monkeys carrying lollypops keeping their children happy. It can work in Wisconsin.

― researching ur life (grady), Friday, 6 October 2006 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

I love it when American politicians thrash around for any temporary solution that doesn't actually involve gun control.

― Arno Oliver Bedder (noodle vague), Friday, 6 October 2006 07:01 (nineteen years ago)

The NR@ have been promoting this idea after every school shooting since Columbine. Some of its even-more-lunatic-than-the-rest fringe even went on TV days after 9/11 to say none of it would have happened if the God-fearing Americans on board the hijacked planes had been allowed to carry their guns with them...

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Friday, 6 October 2006 07:21 (nineteen years ago)

The solution to Americas gun problem is more guns.

― paizuri-san (davidcorp), Friday, 6 October 2006 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

note to self: if want to kill kids become a school admin in wisconsin yay!

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 6 October 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

by admins do they include dinner ladies and cleaners and the like?

― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 October 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

there are other kinds?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 6 October 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.itsonlyamovie.co.uk/COVERS2/CLASS%20OF%201999.jpg

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 6 October 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

That cyborg looks kinda slow.

― nate p. (natepatrin), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Stacy's haircut, meanwhile, is something else again.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

say that when its carving your eyes out!

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

It looks like it was trying to carve its OWN eyes out.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

I can't count the number of times I probably would've gotten my bratty ass blown away by teachers at the end of their rope, were they packing heat.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously - this is like fighting AIDS by giving everyone AIDS.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cinemaclub.co.il/pictures/m801282.bmp

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously - this is like fighting AIDS by giving everyone AIDS.

That could work! If everyone has it, there's no need to worry about it spreading!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ that scene in 187 w/ bow and arrow

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Geraldo and O'Reilly freak out, think the military should set up "armed camps" at schools:
http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2006/10/one_nation_unde.shtml#015913

― schwantz (schwantz), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

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