Why Was Rape Considered So Hilarious in the 70s?

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There are countless examples of this stuff in 70s comedies. Here's just one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ0yR3_hfsU

A friend sent me this link as an example of how fun comedy was before PC came about. Am I being really uptight in finding this rabbit rape spoof of Clockwork Orange really creepy and awful, and being glad that nothing like this would get on the air today?

archer (archer), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

so you're saying it isn't?

hunh.

mind=blown

fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

So you're saying it is funny and I'm just being uptight? You're probably right. It's just that I don't think of myself as PC but this struck even me as being more than a bit off. Maybe I'm just having a bad humour day.

archer (archer), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

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Ohhh, some people don't like you to talk like that. Ohh, some people like to shut you up for saying those things.
You know that. Lots of people. Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk.
Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something but you can't joke about it.
Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that shit all the time.
Like rape. They'll say, "you can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny."
I say, "fuck you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?"
I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd.
See, hey why do you think they call him "Porky," eh? I know what you're going to say.
"Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky.
Porky couldn't help himself, he got a hard- on, he got horney, he lost control, he went out of his mind."
A lot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it's the woman's fault.
They like to blame the rape on the woman. Say, "she had it coming, she was wearing a short skirt."
These guys think women ought to go to prison for being cock teasers. Don't seem fair to me.
Don't seem right, but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything.
It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is. What the exaggeration is.
Because every joke needs one exaggeration. Every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion.
Give you an example. Did you ever see a news story like this in the paper?
Every now and then you run into a story, says, "some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things, and while he was in there, he raped an 81 year old woman."
And I'm thinking to myself, "WHY??? What the fuck kind of a social life does this guy have?"
I want to say, "why did you do that?" "Well she was coming on to me. We were dancing and I got horney.
Hey, she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe." I'll say, "Jesus Christ, be a little fucking selective next time will you?"


Now, speaking of rape, do you know what I wonder? I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole.
These are the kind of things I think about when I'm sitting home alone and the power goes out.
I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. I mean per capita, I know the populations are different.
Most people think it's the equator, I think it's the north pole.
People think it's the equator because it's hot down there, they don't wear a lot of clothing, guys can see women's tits, they get horney and there's a lot of fucking going on.
That's exactly why there's less rape at the equator. Because there's a lot of fucking going on.
You can tell there's a lot of fucking at the equator, take a look at the population figures.
Billions of people live near the equator. How many Eskimos do we have?
Thirty? Thirty five? No one's getting laid at the north pole, it's too fucking cold.
Guys say to their wives, "hey tonight honey, huh, tonight, huh?"
"Are you crazy? The wind chill factor is three hundred below."
These guys are deprived. Their horney. Their pent up. Every now and then...p-pmm...they bust out, they got to rape somebody.

Now, the biggest problem an Eskimo rapist has, trying to get wet leather leggings off a woman who is kicking.
Did you ever try to get leather pants off of someone who doesn't want to take them off?
You would lose your hard-on in the process.
Up at the north pole you dick would shrivel up like a stack of dimes.
That's another thing I wonder.
I wonder, does a rapist have a hard-on when he leaves the house in the morning,
or does he develop it during the day while he's walking around looking for somebody.
These are the kind of thoughts that kept me out of the really good schools.

That's from 1990, though.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

It also makes light of battering old people!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

But um, yeah, I'm not exactly nostalgic for this style of comedy.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJt7KPU2gN4

yes, that's a bit off, but this is one of the greatest things ever!

barry (archer), Sunday, 8 October 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

The black-face piano player is a little disturbing, but I agree that is great. It sounds more than a little like "Jungle Rock" by the Weirdos.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 8 October 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

So, uh, is this why The Young Ones had to happen?

nate p. (natepatrin), Sunday, 8 October 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

I had to downgrade my favorite movie of all time because of, y'know, "funny rape"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 8 October 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

Not sure I can give specific examples but I seem to remember more than one case of rape humour on SNL in the 90s.

Sundar (sundar), Sunday, 8 October 2006 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

Mostly of the man-on-man type, though, right? 'Cause that's been a pretty easy go-to for mediocre comedy franchises for a while now.

nate p. (natepatrin), Sunday, 8 October 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

someone raping the shit out of george carlin might be kinda funny

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Sunday, 8 October 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

I remember a Rape crisis center for men skit on SNL, the joke being that it was for rapists. "A guy goes through some pretty heavy changes when he commits a rape" was one of John Belushi's lines.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 8 October 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

What's Haikunym's favorite movie, Blue Velvet?

Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 8 October 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

i'm showing my age bigtime, but does anybody remember Tex Antoine, weatherman?
From Wikipedia:

On November 24, 1976, his weather spot came up just after a report of a violent rape of a five year old girl. Tex thereupon quipped: With rape so predominant in the news lately, it is well to remember the words of Confucius: 'If rape is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it.'" Roger Grimsby led the 11 p.m. newscast that night with the official apology from WABC. His joke got Tex Antoine suspended, then fired.

timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 8 October 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

Young Frankenstein, actually; I don't remember the Blue Velvet rape scene as especially hilarious

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

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B-B-BUT, WE VAS MY BOYFVIEND!

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

disappointing goth fest line-up (orion), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

PETER WYNGARDE TO THREAD

0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

meanwhile, back in the 60s


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zappi (joni), Sunday, 8 October 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

why are you giving rape special consideration over BEATING WITH CARROTS? Is violence funny?

Butt Dickass (Dick Butkus), Sunday, 8 October 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

thread = fails

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 8 October 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

I guess you will not like this humorous piece
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbfDdsMqd0Y

Butt Dickass (Dick Butkus), Sunday, 8 October 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

I don't remember the Blue Velvet rape scene as especially hilarious

"I remember David laughing so hard, at that scene, laughing so hard. I remember stopping the scene once, and I said, 'David, what is there to laugh? This is a rape. What is there to laugh?', and he said, 'I don't know, it just makes me laugh.' And then years later, maybe 15 years after, the film was on television. And I looked at the film, and just remembering David laughing made me laugh, belly laugh like David, cause I still don't understand what made him laugh."
-Isabella Rossellini

I dunno, the part that makes me laugh is right before it: "It's daddy, you shithead. Where's my bourbon?"

Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 8 October 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

I dont know how you couldnt laugh at the blue velvet rape scene. He's yelling "mommy" into a woman's vagina. And its Dennis Hopper. The guy from Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. The irony and humor of it is what makes it so disturbing, which doesnt cancel out the hilarity at all.

Period period period (Period period period), Sunday, 8 October 2006 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

Pauline Kael on Hud: "I thought it was a very funny film."

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 October 2006 07:02 (nineteen years ago)

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kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 8 October 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

zappi otm

the classic sounds of the seventh of january 1998 (Enrique), Sunday, 8 October 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

wow I havent seen 'blue velvet' in a long time; that rape scene now sounds HI-LARIOUS!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 8 October 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

Am I being really uptight in finding this rabbit rape spoof of Clockwork Orange really creepy and awful

This is why I consider Kubrick's film shit.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 8 October 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

So, uh, is this why The Young Ones had to happen?

Sort of. It's actually an interesting question as to whether offensive comics like Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson were the main targets of Alternative Comedy, or whether the list should include non-racist but still unfunny borscht belt stuff like Rodney Dangerfield or Jackie Mason (Or Jimmy Tarbuck for an English version).

It doesn't really change anything, but it's probably worth pointing out that there isn't actually anything funny in any of the five minutes of the first clip.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 8 October 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

The first clip was more unfunny because of its Benny Hill quality than any actual material contained therein.

Period period period (Period period period), Sunday, 8 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

unfunny borscht belt stuff like Rodney Dangerfield

?!?!?!

nate p. (natepatrin), Sunday, 8 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

let me add some more !??!?!?

I dont understand why "alternative comedy" whatever the fuck that means, would be trying to take down Dangerfield a huge supporter of Andy Kaufman, Roseanne, Seinfeld and anybody with any kind of act you can imagine.

Period period period (Period period period), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Did alternative comedy even exist as such in the USA? And was Rodney Dangerfield really well known enough in the UK for Ben Elton, Fry & Laurie, etc. to be seen as "taking him down" (whether or not they actually wanted to?)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I was gonna say the same, Dangerfield doesn't feature. A better reference point would be Bob Monkhouse who was part of the Comedy Establishment, was part of the Old Guard, was a supporter of alternative comedy,a nd was also being reacted to by them.

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Okay okay, I picked Dangerfield for that sort of reaction, because he's the kind of figure that interests me, the one guy in a 'revolution' who should be entirely clean but is on the outlist either as an arbitrary "you have to hate him to love the revolution" or because there's a secondary larger list of the hated (though if the reason for being on the second list is something as subjective as "it isn't funny", then they're basically the same thing).

Also I just don't think he's funny. Do you see what I mean, Americans, that there's a significant difference between him and say the SNL people, a matter of speed, of obviousness?

I'd have done better with an English version (thanks, Dom), except they were already poison by the time I started watching telly: I would have had some serious questions to answer if I'd mentioned casually that I'd seem last night's Bob Monkhouse show.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Dangerfield was a genius.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

I do sort of sympathize with Andrew, 'cos the only time I saw Dangerfield do stand-up (on "The Tonight Show"; I knew his shtick before that, but hadn't witnessed firsthand) I thought he was pretty unfunny, though I don't know how much of that had to do with seeing Jay Leno's fawning over him afterwards (Leno could make anything unfunny, granted.) That being said, he's just a very hard person to hate, and seeing him bravely drive his own persona into the most disturbing turns it could possibly take was easily the best thing about "Natural Born Killers" (maybe the only good thing about it, actually.)

I've yet to see "Back To School" and "Caddyshack".

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 8 October 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

doesnt molly ringwald get raped by a nerd in 16 candles and its supposed to be funny?

chaki (chaki), Monday, 9 October 2006 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

No.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

and seeing him bravely drive his own persona into the most disturbing turns it could possibly take was easily the best thing about "Natural Born Killers"

no it was that scene with the nipple being sucked, for me.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Rodney Dangerfield = old-school don of the one-liners; hugely successful gimmick was that he was an insult comedian who specialized in insulting HIMSELF
SNL = new-school "off the wall" sketch comedy that bordered on the absurdist; hugely successful gimmick (increasingly over the last 15 years) is that they specialize in insulting everyone except their own cosmopolitan selves

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

they specialize in insulting everyone except their own cosmopolitan selves

Didn't you see the Catherine Zeta-Jones skit about the Broadway dancer party?

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

A girl phoned me the other day and said... Come on over, there's nobody home. I went over. Nobody was home.

I could tell that my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio.

I remember the time I was kidnapped and they sent a piece of my finger to my father. He said he wanted more proof.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Bdum-tish!

(just shit-stirring here:) So his angle was Jewish comedy for WASPs?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

watch one (1) CADDYSHACK

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Or Rover Dangerfield for that matter.

Ed (dali), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

doesnt molly ringwald get raped by a nerd in 16 candles and its supposed to be funny?

No, it's the popular blonde prom-queen type who gets raped by a nerd for laffs.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, well that's all right then.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

doesn't the little kid get raped by burt reynolds in cop and a half

am0n (am0n), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

watch one (1) CADDYSHACK

Dude, what do you think my experience of him is based on (well, that and the parody in Cerebus)?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

No Dan I didn't, but I didn't mean they don't make fun of cosmopolitan people - they do, as long as those cosmopolitan people are different enough from themselves (i.e. Broadway dancers?) - which is essentially why I just can't dig the show much any more (although even from the beginning SNL had this tendency).

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Okay wtf at "parody in Cerebus"; consider one (1) source.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-saiHSjw_Y

Kim (Kim), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

doesn't the little kid get raped by burt reynolds in cop and a half

-- am0n (vvvv...), October 9th, 2006.

no, that was the audience

latebloomer: just raw dead fucking, babies! (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

ugh plz retire one (1) meme

and what (ooo), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

doesnt molly ringwald get raped by a nerd in 16 candles and its supposed to be funny?

No, it's the popular blonde prom-queen type who gets raped by a nerd for laffs.

Which one of you was it that was going on about the ethical ramifications of the costumed nerd fucking the soroity girl (who thought she was getting fucked by her frat boyfriend) in Revenge of the Nerds?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'M ON UR THREAD
IRRITATING UR READING EXPERIENCE

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Which one of you was it that was going on about the ethical ramifications of the costumed nerd fucking the soroity girl (who thought she was getting fucked by her frat boyfriend) in Revenge of the Nerds?

I'm pretty sure I haven't done that on ILX, but I have gone on about those ethical remifications live and in person.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Ramifications, too.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

wasnt me

chaki (chaki), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Okay wtf at "parody in Cerebus"; consider one (1) source.

Dave Sim parodies are usually pretty accurate, no? His Groucho is great, the Wilde is passable at least, Mick & Keff fucking genius.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

uh I wouldn't call anything Sim does "accurate" but that's beside the point... I'm a huge fan of Dangerfield and marvel that anyone would think the SNL-club of comedians had more "speed" than he did, which is a ridiculous assertion if we're just talking jokes-per-second (cf Rodney's other refrain "I know a lot of fuckin jokes").

Also, weird that a discussion of Dangerfield on this thread would go this far without anyone mentioning his own 70s-era rape joke(s). "The only reason I get laid these days is cuz of who I am... a rapist"

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

"(just shit-stirring here:) So his angle was Jewish comedy for WASPs?"

Dangerfield was Jewish.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Answer the question!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 9 October 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, right there was an original question. "Why Was Rape Considered So Hilarious in the 70s?" Shot in the dark: As a reaction against women's lib?

Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 9 October 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

That Goodies clip was awful and not at all funny for reasons having nothing to do with rape. And I don't know if the assumption underlying the thread question is valid anyway.

J (Jay), Monday, 9 October 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

uh I wouldn't call anything Sim does "accurate"

Somebody being completley insane doesn't mean they're always wrong, is all I'm sayin'.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 9 October 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's the popular blonde prom-queen type who gets raped by a nerd for laffs.

When does this happen? I'm not denying it but I don't remember it. The only thing I remember is the jock guy saying something to the effect of "[cheerleader gf] is passed out upstairs. I could take advantage of her six different ways right now if I wanted."

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 9 October 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

Jake Ryan says that Caroline is passed out upstairs, and he offers Farmer Ted the opportunity to take her home. After putting her limp body in the car, Farmer Ted and she embark on a riotious, drunken joy ride during which Caroline sluringly expresses some amount of attraction for him. In their next scene, Caroline wakes up a head-gear wearing Farmer Ted, who is passed out in the back of the car next to her. After ascertaining who he is ("I'll, uh, tell you where you are if you tell me who you are." "I'm Farmer Ted." "You're in the parking lot in front of my church." "You own a church?")she asks if they had sex. Farmer Ted says yes and she asks if she enjoyed it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

Why was race considered so hilarious in the 1870s?

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://goo.gl/SbNnb
http://goo.gl/g235U

Why is rape considered so hilarious by online 'funny slogan' t-shirt manufacturers? "You can add your own blood splatter after you get the tee, for that unique look!", the site jokes.

DavidM, Saturday, 8 October 2011 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

1960s but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTBtq8W9JQ

LOL?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 8 October 2011 21:43 (fourteen years ago)

i believe the director's "trouble with women" is well-documented.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 8 October 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)


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