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According to this fortnight's Smash Hits the following are IN:

Gypsy chic ("Pikey fashion is the way forward")
Naming yourself after a drink
Putting your CD player in shuffle mode
Smallville
Stripy shirts
Iron-on patches
Getting hitched

And the following are OUT:

Hospital dramas
Valentine's Day
Sales
Dextoxing
Britney's 'acting'
Gateley and Eloy
James Redmond
Friends
Westlife

Any comments?

― Tom, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Or other questions like "Who does this sort of thing best?", "Didnt they stop doing this years ago?", "Should Freaky Trigger have one?"

― Tom, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is James Redmond out by dint of his appearance on cd:uk? He should've just stuck with Hollyoaks. Loveable antique-trading, niteclub-owning, boat-dwelling rogue who's really an Irish aristocrat YES, replacement for ant 'n' dec most certainly NO.

― MarkH, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Gypsy chic ("Pikey fashion is the way forward") - Do they really use the word 'pikey'? We don't do that. But anyway - Gypsy chic? Tell me something new!

Naming yourself after a drink - this is not actually going to happen

Putting your CD player in shuffle mode - gosh. People keep going on about that round these parts. Why has this suddenly taken off?

Smallville - I'm afraid I don't know what this is

Stripy shirts - mm

Iron-on patches - Oh dear God please not again. It makes me think of French teenagers

Getting hitched - well that's all very well, but..

― N., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

smallville is the confused continuity superman as kid show. "but that would mean it's set in the 50s, so why all the digital video equipment, and then how can they..." etc.

I mentioned my fave version of these lists on a thread way back, from the Eggers book: what's hot (molten lava, the sun) and what's not (solidified lava, ice). glad to see friends is out, phew.

Any good stickers this issue?

― Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Incidentally, I thought this thread was going to be about hardcore pornography.

― N., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In TopShop we are calling gypsy chic 'romantic peasant' as gypsy chic is TOTALLY last season.

What is DexToxing Tom? Giving up Dynasty?

― Emma, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

FT should ddefintely have something. Or perhaps something in the NYLPM sidebar, perhaps where the 'funny search requests' thing is or something.

Smallville is abSOLUTELY in. I don't know about the stripey shirts - my over skinny new EO wears them and looks like a titbag. Iron on patches also I would say are a dud and getting hitched is only there because of Generation Jamie who aspire to married role models. AND QUITE FRANKLY that has no place in Smash Hits shame on them!

As for Gately and Eloy - they've been out ever since SH stopped calling SG 'Monkeychops'.

― Sarah, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha ha I see booze Detoxing did wonders for your charm and sunny character Emma.

Stickers - no, but there's a free CD holder which is OK (9 CDs) and a good mocked-up Hello! spread with fake Britney and Justin.

― Tom, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

PS - OR SOMETHING.

― tits up!, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Romantic Peasant" - that's the best thing I've heard all year.

― N., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

wow, I bought a stripey shirt yesterday *and* my minidisc player is on permanent shuffle mode, I must be very in, according to Smash hits .....oh dear.

― chris, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Smash Hits are quite the SMTV haterz aren't they? Hospital dramas e.g. Casually (which is indeed shite), AND James Redmond. James Redmond is in in my book, Toss Daily is the one who should be out (do you see what I did there?)

― Emma, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

NYLPM had something before and we got loads of grief for it. Also doing stuff on the sidebar is an arse which is why the funny searches never get updated. But I still think it's a good idea. All the 'regulars' should get to choose one thing to be in and out each week and then we run them except swapping Dave Popshots' choices round so he says Les Savy Fav are rubbish ha ha.

― Tom, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Emma it is perhaps not unrelated to SM:TV launching their own pop mag a few months ago.

― Tom, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It still seems a bit below the gypsy style belt to me. Clearly honesty, integrity and fair play are out.

― Emma, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

AAAGH I hate in/out lists, especially in crap mainstream magazines.

― suzy, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why Suzy? Cuz they simultaneously democratise and take the piss out of the concept of fashion?

― Tom, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What does it mean by saying that Sales is out?

― Jonnie, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

can we have a barometer? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we have a barometer? I wanna be a style meteorologist.

― misterjones, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Err.. that they're finished, Jonnie?

Suzy - surely in/out lists in specialist mags are much stupider? Although I'd love to see Caravan World's.

― N., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I prefer In/Out lists to Her From The Guardians 'How To Wear Clothes' column. And in fact to champagne!

― Merlot de Saké, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Does that mean that we are uncool if we buy anything then?

― Jonnie, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom, you saucy Jack.

An FT/NYLPM list would be SOOOOO much better than anything offered up by Smash Hits or (ungh) Spin or (guhfoy?) Entertainment Weekly. And, PLEASE, Tom, gimme some credit - Les Savy Fav is so played out; I'm all about The Fire Show now.

― David Raposa, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't like those lists because of general boringness and inaccuracy. There are much better ways to take the piss out of fashion.

― suzy, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ah, but surely it depends on which "in" crowd you want to be associated with? For instance someone who loves all things Smash hits may well think some edgy arty type from Hoxton looked like a complete dork and wouldn't want to be like them in a million years. And who's to say they were wrong?

― chris, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IN: "Man Fading" by Kenna.
OUT: "Underneath Your Clothes" by Shakira.

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I find it very reassuring and even exciting when I read in / out lists and I own / do things on the in list because I am a very shallow person.

― Emma, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You will be easily pleased by the FT list then Emma since it will surely include things like "Going to the pub", "Watching films about lesbian Maoist gangs", "bashing the Pegg" etc.

― Tom, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IN: being easily pleased OUT: being a difficult sod

― Emma, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's bad news.

― Tim, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim, surely you laugh in the face of fashion's dictates?

N.B. This is not meant to imply you have bad clothes. It's a commendation of your independent/bloody -mindedness.

― N., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Smallville = poop.

― DG, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IN: too deep
OUT: on the streets

Peasy.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Stripey shirts and peasant gear? Weren't both of those things done in the 90s? Some people have short memories.

― Kerry, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It looks like David Essex could be on the verge of a renaissance if Smash Hits are true predictors of fashion.

― Jonnie, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, Nick, I am but driftwood, at the mercy of the ebb and flow of fashion's high seas. I just don't understand so good, that's all.

― Tim, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the idea of an in and out list.

― jel, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The concept of an IN/OUT list is totally bogus, because some things are neither. Or both. The left leg when doing the hokey cokey, for example.

― Trevor, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Trevor, in/out lists are not meant to cover everything in the world. That would be an enormous project and make the cover price of Smash Hits prohibitively expensive.

― N., Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IN: David Essex OUT: David Beckenham

― Loop Dandy, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IN: Coke-laced Fairy Floss

OUT: Vinyl Super-Trouper Jackets

― Tim, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IN: Bootleg nites OUT: UKG nites IN: hats OUT: not hats IN: blingy peasant chic OUT: romantic peasant chic.

― Emma, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Trevor, in/out lists are not meant to cover everything in the world. That would be an enormous project and make the cover price of Smash Hits prohibitively expensive."

Point taken, Nick. But isn't this precisely the raison d'etre of the prohibitively expensive "List" magazine?

― Trevor, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IN: hats

Needs refining. IN: hats on young ILE ladies. OUT: the same hats on late-twentysomething ILE men. Any hat at all on Tom Middleton.

― Tom, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom there were TONS of people (mostly men) wearing hats in that place - I was particularly perturbed by the number of dodgy baker-boy style caps. Especially when adorned with Blue Peter badges.I am not saying I like 'em, just that they are IN.

― Emma, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well the guy with the baker-boy cap and Blue Peter badge was creepy on every level, not least cos he had a bloody camcorder and was no doubt covering it for an edgy fash mag. (Or Smash Hits).

― Tom, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We thought he was just going to film the lovely laydeez and take the vid home to wank over. But he kept filming the DJ. Maybe he was going to wank over that instead?

He was quite cute though, in a creepy way.

― Emma, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IN: Topless passport photos
OUT: Wrap shirts.

― Dan Perry, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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