The Secret Policeman's Ball

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Anybody watch it last night? Anyone see it live?

I thought it was largely disappointing. The fact that Russel Brand gave the funniest performance is a trifle weird considering the amount of talent onstage.

The Mighty Boosh were very weak, recycling some of the less inspired bits of their nevertheless 5-star tour and then managing to make it seem a lot less dynamic and needlessly surreal in a very student-y way.

Eddie Izzard, now butch and bearded has completely lost the plot, relying on a ten-minute observational piece about a fly caught in the window. Queue lots of buzzing noises and lacklustre "acting".

Chevy Chase and Seth Green along with two of the Kumars turned up and did a desperately unfunny Guantanemo Bay-related sketch that looked like it had been written by GCSE students.

I quite liked the Monopoly sketch with Richard E Grant, although it seemed like it was going to fall to bits at times.

Largely disappointing as I say, but I get the impression it was probably flung together very quickly considering tickets only went on sale a few weeks ago and many of the acts seemed to be either recycling old ideas (Al Murray Pub Landlord, WE'VE SEEN YOUR DVD TWO YEARS AGO, OK?!) or coming up with some very dodgy scripting.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

I saw about five minutes of Russell Brand then turned off again. I think I slightly chuckled once in those five minutes, but I'm damned if I can remember what at. You aren't convincing me I missed much.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Oh my god, Sarah Silverman! Did she DIE or what??!?!?!? Painful!

The Monopoly sketch with Richard E Grant was like something from Crackerjack, I expected Peter Glaze to walk on at any minute.

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

And I'd never seen Al Murray, Pub Landlord before - I thought he was supposed to be funny?

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't see it, but watching the box set of previous Policeman's Balls, it seems that it was ever thus. Whilst at least 60% of the material is excellent, the perfomances aren't particularly great and that other 40% is truly dire.

Funny, but my memory always told me that these were all 100% comedy genius, which unfortunately they are not (but I defy anyone not to include Peter Cook's "Entirely a Matter For You" in a line up of classic satire).

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

Izzard was fine, I thought Brand was good despite usually not liking him, The Boosh were good, everything else was dreadful.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

(Monopoly = Cluedo)

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah!

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 00:43 (eighteen years ago)

maybe my critical faculties are becoming more fuzzy in my old age, but the bits i saw (i turned on just after al murray) were mostly quite amusing.

except for sarah silverman, who i'd never seen before and thought was ... well, absolutely fucking brilliant. best thing there by miles. perhaps it's a novelty-value thing - the incongruity of this sweet-looking jewish american girl coming out with stuff like that - but either way, she rocked. best line: the thing about not minding if we think she's racist, as long as we think she's thin. "a thin racist. yeh."

dada: yes, i thought to begin with that she was gonna die completely, but she seemed to bring them round ... that said, two or three of her funniest asides (and no, i can't remember which) seemed to pass everyone by completely, yet mrs F and i were roffling round the room. so the audience can go fuck :)

the cluedo sketch was intermittently funny, and it's always good to see jo brand. andrew maxwell was reasonable but not the genius i'd been led to expect. the boosh did what the boosh always do: one-quarter absolute inspired fucking genius that makes you boggle at its audacity; one-quarter laffs; one-half underwritten sub-student faffing about that reminds you why you've never really liked them that much.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 November 2006 09:48 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone's talking about the "natalie Imbruglia" sketch...

(I didn't see the show)

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way
The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

The Mighty Boosh [...] needlessly surreal in a very student-y way

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

I think the silence during Silverman was more that they didn't know how to take her. They thought that she was serious with the comment about her grandma dying, at least initially. Having not seen her before they wouldn't have had a reference point of what to expect from her.

mms (mms), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

I normally hate Russell Brand with a passion, but I thought he was really good on this. To be fair, the material was easy laughs, but by the end I'd warmed to his performance of it as well.

Terribly disappointed by Izzard, although I thought he seemed to get better by the end of his segment, but it was too short for his stream-of-consciousness style to branch out anywhere.

Totally agree with grimly about the Mighty Boosh, although I'm not sure if we'd agree on which bits were which.

Andrew Maxwell = eh, okay.

Bits of the Natalie Imbruglia mimeoke sketch worked, most of it didn't. And I usually love mimeoke (to the point of making up a word to describe what it is).

Everything else = dire, turgid, painfully unfunny.

emil.y (emil.y), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

i was trying to post a comment yesterday but crashy server kept eating it.

ANYWAY, i saw this as a live "cinecast" and thought it was atrocious! fuck! what a horrible few hours. almost nothing was funny (including sarah silverman, who i really like - she was just 'off', i thought) except for the mime/Imbruglia thing (! how could this have been the highlight!), the Mighty Boosh (whom i had never seen before) and I suppose Eddie Izzard, although it seemed like he was just working through some material he was developing. Russel Brand's performance was lazy, lazy, lazy, just someone arsing about with big hair. In fact, so many of the comedians just seemed ot be arsing about - like it was an open mic night, fucking around with various new material instead of performing a tight set.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

.. whereas on a TV show, you are supposed to do stuff from your act that you're just about to drop from yr main set.

Like Al Murray, by the sounds of it.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

They thought that she was serious with the comment about her grandma dying, at least initially. Having not seen her before they wouldn't have had a reference point of what to expect from her.

b-b-but i'd never even heard of her before, and obviously she wasn't serious about the grandmother bit because SHE'S A FUCKING STAND-UP COMEDIAN WHO'S JUST SPENT FIVE MINUTES DOING LOTS OF OTHER OFF-COLOUR AND NEAR-THE-KNUCKLE MATERIAL!

god damn. audiences today :)

Totally agree with grimly about the Mighty Boosh, although I'm not sure if we'd agree on which bits were which.

the idea of the "rabbit rape" thing, as opposed to the reality, and - yes! - the entirety of "pie" were, i thought, genius. "pie" was a great example of inspired stupidity: the over-the-top acting, the music, the realisation that it was only one instance of bad timing away from falling on its arse ... i dunno, i just thought it was kinda inspired.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Okay then, yes, I think we do agree on that, then. Hussar!

emil.y (emil.y), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

To be fair only saw a little of her bit before the Grandma gag but the audiences confusion probably only displays how good she was, they totally bought it, she played it so straight. Although as she went off she was saying something like " I did it, I did it" so maybe she thought herself it hadn't gone well and was glad to get off.

I quite liked the Boosh although it didn't totally work. I suspect I would have thought they were a couple of unfunny fools had I not recently watched both their series and given myself over to their silliness. It did take a good few episodes before that happened.

mms (mms), Thursday, 2 November 2006 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

along with two of the Kumars

Neither of them were in the Kumars. The man was Nitin Ganatra, the lead actor in Meet The Magoons, the woman was (I think) Mina Anwar, who was in Coronation Street and The Thin Blue Line.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 November 2006 11:23 (eighteen years ago)

i thought it was shobna gulati?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 November 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

actually, fucking hell, "two of the kumars" ... no asian-comic stereotyping there, eh, DL? :p

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 November 2006 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

Where there any of the Cosbys on?

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Thursday, 2 November 2006 11:52 (eighteen years ago)

Neither of them were in the Kumars.

niggaz be misrecognizing asians*

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

*(see n-word thread for ref)

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

Yep, Shobna Gulati (Corrie, Dinnerladies). They all look the same though, don't they?

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/secretpolice/index.asp?page=5

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:05 (eighteen years ago)

if anyone with telewest would like to catch this again, it's on replay i noticed last night (added advantage, fast-forwarding through eg the zutons). i only caught about ten minutes inc silverman (i'd kind of heard of her, she was pretty much what i was expecting, *oh* so controversial...) and cluedo sketch (deffo in the grand tradition of crappy charity night skits).

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha i knew the 'two of the Kumars' thing would be DL without even checking.

;_; (blueski), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

If the Silverman stuff is on youtube (or indeed if any of her stuff is) I'd appreciate if someone more motivated than me could find a link?

DL you are not doing you "ILX's Daily Mail reader" rep much good with stuff like the Kumars comment :)

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

Wait wait wait, CHEVY CHASE AND SETH GREEN?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

yeh. it really wasn't very good. an admirable enough performance of poor material.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

the idea of the "rabbit rape" thing, as opposed to the reality, and - yes! - the entirety of "pie" were, i thought, genius. "pie" was a great example of inspired stupidity: the over-the-top acting, the music, the realisation that it was only one instance of bad timing away from falling on its arse ... i dunno, i just thought it was kinda inspired.

They performed both of these on their tour and imo were the two parts where, though kinda funny, seemed like they were just dicking about for the sake of it rather than doing funny stuff. Admittedly, watching an act perform a sketch for the second or third time it does stop being so good. That said I'd have thought a lot of the acts could have come up with some original material considering this was such a big gig and that "Pies" and "Rabbit Rape" will no doubt be on their live DVD.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:32 (eighteen years ago)

actually, fucking hell, "two of the kumars" ... no asian-comic stereotyping there, eh, DL? :p

Ooops, apologies. Although to be fair I've seen the Kumars maybe twice and Meet The Maggons once and that was a while ago. Every day is foot in mouth day for me I guess.

Anyway, it wasn't a very funny sketch.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

and to be fair, they were doing "stereotypical asians" as an act, the same as the Kumars, so it's an easy mistake to make.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

BOY, THE MIGHTY BOOSH SURE ARE SURREAL!! AND WHAT ABOUT THAT AL MURRAY, EH? HE'S A PUB LANDLORD...A PUB LANDLORD!!

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Sarah Silverman is the dream girl of every internet troll...*sigh*...

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:41 (eighteen years ago)

was this something that was on TV?

i missed it. will it be on again?

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

DL, that should be "It's an easy mistaka to maka!" as in stereotypical Italian officer from 'Hallo, Hallo"

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

sarah silverman... never seen before but she bombed, which was a bit of a shame as some of the material would have worked in a more familiar context. and yeh, esteban is right... *sigh*

Al Murray was recycling exactly the same jokes as he'd been warming up with about three years ago. The Euro sketch was new but not particularly funny.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

OOH TELEWEST TELEPORT REPLAY EH? YES!

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

i've never in my lifetime seen talent and quality control go out of the window faster than in the case of eddie izzard.

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

i'm looking forward to this now. any comedy that doglatin doesn't appreciate has got to be good right?

(just kidding! *hugs*! etc)

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

I watched the National Television Awards last night. Jeremy Clarkson was probably the funniest.

;_; (blueski), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago)

what has happened to Eddie Izzard recently? Did he get a humorectomy in 2000 or something?

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

al murray's 2 years old dvd? yeah i mean the exact same shtick goes back to the mid-to-late 90's.

his Perrier award year was 1999!

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

2 years was an underestimation, I was being nice. I think he's funny but the "DAD THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE TO DO!" sketch has been done so many times.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

I've never really got Al Murray - is he supposed to be a recognisable type? I've certainly never come across a pub landlord anything like him.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

chap, i think he's supposed to be a caricature of a particular type of person, e.g. the taxi driver, the landlord etc...

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

more the landlord, than the taxi driver.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

though it's not explicit.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

This thread: Kids In The Hall - what's your favorite sketch(es) has made me realise that the "Pies" sketch reminded me of this KITH sketch. Obviously, they're done quite differently, but essentially riffing on the same genre-types.

emil.y (emil.y), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

I think the silence during Silverman was more that they didn't know how to take her.

A more simple (and plausible) explanation is that they didn't find her funny. Long time since I've seen any performer bomb so thoroughly.

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

But she's a Jewish woman, and she says some swear words! That kinda shit might seem subversive in FCC-land, but Mike Reed had that shit on lock back in the late 70s and you don't see him on TV much these days.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 3 November 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

I was distracted throughout her performance by her thouroughly WTF outfit.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Friday, 3 November 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

I think Eddie Izzard is a victim of his own early desire to give good, long performances. When he should have been doing what other comics did, performing for an hour and twenty with a little interval, he was doing two and a half hours straight through. He has burned up his material in half the time it should have taken him.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

I saw EdIz when he did his "thank goodness I'm a transvestite" 'outing' for the first time (well, he said it was).

He was very funny in them times.

I remember some years later seeing one of his videos as broadcast at christmas, and thinking "this isn't that funny actually" as in funny enough.

I guess it was a kind of surrealism that only worked for a little while.

The wolves: "We laughed! We Cried! We made love"

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

silverman bombed - but she made me laugh and i was intrigued.

perhaps it was the juxtaposition of hottness and shocking material that made it funny. maybe it hinges on that too much

the grandmother rape skit was set up with a good tears welling up showbiz confessional thing.

i checked out her stuff on youtube because i totally fancy her obv. unfortunately for me, i realise that the future of comedy probably lies with her procreating with sacha baron cohen. och well.

beeble (beeble), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

and also: some of the youtube stuff is very very good indeed! i would certainly recommend the 'i love you more than' song. i would also point you toward 'the porn song' - 'do you take drugs so you can have sex without crying?' - check out the polly harvey/nick cave pastiche

it's funny. she needs a vehicle - SHE NEEDS BORAT!!!!

beeble (beeble), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah Silverman doesn't work unless she tells a lot of Jewish rape jokes.

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:33 (eighteen years ago)

eight years pass...

Jonathan Miller and Alan Bennett shakespeare sketch is maybe my favourite comedy ever, tho. and Ustinov's hosting makes up for the cuntish hippy band that year.

thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 April 2015 20:44 (ten years ago)


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