Peanut Butter: Classic or Dud?

Actually PB *and* Marmite on toast mixed together is gorgeous and I would go and have some right now if I had a working toaster.

Maybe the PB vs. Marmite thing was just among the four of us and I should not use them as a focus group for the whole of humanity.

Just like I always like popcorn in theory until I remember the bloody kernels between my teeth. Ugh! Doesn't stop me from devouring the whole bag, tho.

have also tried peanut butter and banana sandwiches in honour of the king, surprised by how good they were, but had to give them up for fear of dying on the toilet.

I envy lucky boys who can eat without such neuroses.

Was I alone in my belief, while watching Sesame St as a nipper, that "Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches" (shortly to spilled everywhere by clumsy muppet chef falling down stairs) was an instance ker-azy Seussian green-eggs-and-ham-style surrealism? Not until I lived in the U of SA did the gruesome truth dawn on me.

I'm another crunchy peanut butter fan but forget the toast, it's a (nother) straight from the jar thing for me. I'm tempted by the celery idea. I read that celery has minus calories (takes more energy to digest than is actually contained in the celery) so it really would cancel out the peanut butter.

But I am just jonesing for a little bag of Reeses Miniatures right now, OK?

However, those Reese's peanut butter chocolate cup things are ok, and I used to like Marmite flavoured crisps. But then I used to like every crisp flavour on the planet, and I don't even like prawn cocktail any more, I don't think I'd dare try the Marmite crisps again.

Also the peanut butter, mayonnaise and lettuce sandwich (ungrilled) is scrumptious. My dad would come home for lunch and eat a couple of those every day.

Stay away from Skippy brand peanut butter! Let every breed of Mongo hear me speak!

This Marmite thing reminds me. We once heard that if you whip Marmite (like you'd whip cream, not in an S&M way) it goes white. Now I have a feeling Pete made this up as a lie but cannot remember. I would also like to know exactly how Marmite is made, I mean it says 'yeast extract' but what do they take out of the yeast to get that foul dank substance? We emailed Sainsbury's to ask them this once but they never got back to us. No doubt there is an episode of PlaySchool from 1973 in which they deal with this knotty issue. Does anyone know?

Whole earth crunchy penut buttter on good wholemeal bread or celery is utter heaven. Mildly sweet, good indeed with marmite.

Does this help? As for mint jelly, I don't like it either.

This answered some of my questions.

I might just have to try that... tomorrow... when I hope I will be well enough to leave the flat and go to Sainsburys.

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Sometimes I eat it with a spoon.

Only on toast tho, and only crunchy.

The kids hate it. They will learn.

british peanut butter is crap

HAPPY NATIONAL PEANUT BUTTER DAY

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i have a stack of recalled nutter butters and i want to eat them

um. nutter butter?

Nabisco OTM

i've eaten more of this than any other foodstuff in the course of my life

We got dessert to go last night and sadly they were all out of the amazingly delicious but reliant upon peanut butter giving cake:

http://www.greggsusa.com/desserts/cakes/hasbrochocolatepeanutbuttercake.html

kraft says they are NOT part of the recall

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Can't stand the stuff. Monstrous dud.
― Melissa W, Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:00 PM (8 years ago)

Posts very much in character.

I'm an Extra Crunchy fan myself. I was afraid of crunchy pb when I was a kid, but now I swear by it. Kids are so dumb,

I bought this at Trader Joe's recently:
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I liked it at first, but tbh, it tastes kind of artificial.

It's amazing how much peanut butter can very in quality. You'd think there'd be no trick to it. Even among generic stuff, I like the Jewel Osco store brand a lot, but the Safeway brand has something wrong with it. (For starters, it doesn't even say that it's peanut butter. It says "peanut spread." Wherefore I know not.)

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classic!!! but I'm not a huge fan of storebought pb.
when I was a kid we used to go to the healthfood store with our plastic tub, and they would fill a machine with peanuts and out would come peanut butter. just straight peanuts, crunchy and yummy oh GOD it was good.

whole foods is good for that with various nuts

I've had a 30 year argument with my mother as to whether peanut butter should be refrigerated. She insists that it should.

So its a food tainted by our ongoing rift.

argh, the woman who comes to clean our apartment once a week, my biggest complaint with her is she always puts the peanut butter in the fridge. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS. it makes it hard and unspreadable, and peanut butter keeps just fine on the shelf. anyway, i always have to remember to take it out after she's been there. (or i could just explain to her that it's always on the counter for a reason, but her english isn't so good plus i don't want to make her feel like i'm criticizing her or something.)

on the plus side, i have recently rediscovered the glory of peanut butter on graham crackers. mmmm.

Mmm, I may get some fresh ground peanut butter or cashew butter when I'm in Atlanta next weekend.

WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS.

I do it with natural peanut butter so that the oil doesn't separate.

just store it upside down. then you just mix it a few seconds and all is well.

Going with majorly dud. Tastes like recycled vomit. But give me a few years and maybe I'll love it. Hated Dr Pepper for decades until my husband brought it home.

omg I am a monjer who may or may not eaten a disgusting amount of this stuff right out of the jar

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and now I might barf but omg it was so so good

barf

I also just realized that's made the the restaurant that opened when I was at NYU and would charge like $8 for a PB&J. Whatever. That stuff is delicious.

I AM A MONJER. RAH!

(monster)

we're not allowed to send peanut related food to school w/ our kids bc i guess any exposure whatsoever could kill another kid with a peanut allergy. from what i understand these rules are pretty widespread now. am i crazy tho bc i brought peanut butter to school all the time as a kid and never saw anyone ever have an allergic reaction to my lunch, or ever heard of someone dying bc the person sitting next to them is eating peanut butter. (and, maybe unrelatedly, now they're saying early exposure to peanuts can actually protect against allergy) is this a real thing (bringing peanut butter to school will kill allergic students) or just bullshit?

You are correct that this thing which is a thing now wasn't such a thing when we were kids, because an entire generation of kids were pointedly never exposed to peanuts at a young age, which the scientific community is now all 'whoops, our bad, you should totally expose your kids to peanuts at a young age to prevent the development of severe allergies' about.

I'd been hearing this for a little while but it seems to have fully blown up this week: New NIH Guidelines on Infant Exposure to Peanuts Upend Years of Parental Paranoia

I never would have survived to adulthood if I couldn't bring peanut butter to school.

There is a special table in the cafeteria for the allergen kids at my children's schools. That handles it pretty well as far as I know. I even brought pb&j when I visited my daughter for lunch the other day and didn't think anything of it until afterward.

There seems to be a reallllly deep divide on this issue depending on whether or not a person is a parent of a child who could die if they touch peanuts. So that's not very surprising. Everyone else considers PB totally ubiquitous except those people, who are like anti-allergen WARRIORS for their children's lives. It's kind of a strange dynamic but you can't really fault them.

Ugh, how are today's super-allergic kids going to handle the new peanut guidelines when they have kids of their own?

how sensitive are these kids? obviously they can't eat it but the way schools handle it it sounds like they can't even smell it or be within 300ft of it.

It's more like kids are just careless and you can't watch 30-150 of them at once (depending on your cafeteria schedule!). Like okay YOU don't pack peanut things for your kid but what if PB sandwiches are on the menu for and someone gets a plastic wrapper on their food while they're horsing around? Or another kid has PB on their hand and touches like a carrot stick or something, w/e. I'm sure the percentage of kids who will DIE if they get a molecule of PB in their mouth is fairly small but if you're a parent of one of them you're not going to be cool with playing the odds, I imagine.

Class snacks are another thing, because you choose what your kid has for lunch if you packed it, but when a parent brings brownies or rice krispy treats or candy bars or w/e parents do now for their child's birthday or a special occasion and they don't mention it, or your child doesn't think about it in time and eats something cross-contaminated, and there's a crisis...

Also lol because we have one of those kids at my school and on the first day he actually marched himself to the office and announced to all the secretaries, "Hi I'm Johnny and I'm allergic to everything."

There are kids –– and adults –– at my school who do have severe allergies to even trace amounts of X, Y, and P. While allergy-free tables are ideal for middle/high school (where there's a reasonable level of personal accountability), in elementary school a peanut/nut free policy makes a lot of sense. Even best-intentioned kids get stuff on their hands, on tables, on faucets; trade snacks; keep stuff in their pockets, etc., and the cafeteria workers / volunteers / chatty dads and moms who oversee lunch duty aren't often super diligent about enforcing the policies that prevent cross-contamination. I know it's fun to be glib and all "ooh, today's kids are weak and irresponsible," but there's a lot of prudence to these policies.

However, the "no food used in classrooms/instruction" policy is straight nonsense. I miss the days when I could give out dum dums and tootsie rolls on Friday.

I know it's fun to be glib and all "ooh, today's kids are weak and irresponsible," but there's a lot of prudence to these policies.

I don't think it's glib to ask whether peanut sensitivity has really developed so much in the last 20 years that these new policies are necessary, or whether they were always necessary and we just didn't hear about cases of kids dying from peanut butter being brought to school, or whether it's unfounded hysteria, etc. if we did fine for 100 years or whatever bringing peanut butter to school and no kids ever died from it, and the sensitivity is the same as its ever been, then maybe it's time to start being glib.

There are all sorts of esoteric or obscure allergies we've encountered at school, from strawberries to passion fruit to mangoes to *all* tree fruits (including apples!) to mushrooms (who packs mushrooms in elementary school?) in addition to nuts. Factor in gluten issues, and wheat allergies and sweets (thanks Obama) and all sorts of other stuff and really the end result has been the end of classroom parties, since once you remove significant allergens, the next level of allergens, candy, anything home baked and basically anything else that poses a threat you're left with plain popcorn and carrot sticks, and where's the fun in that?

FWIW, classrooms and lunch rooms here have different policies. Lunchrooms stick the kids with allergies at allergy-free tables. And really, in the end, who the fuck needs food in the classroom?

Anyway, there was apparently a huge, demonstrable burst in peanut and other nut allergies that did not exist, say, 30 years ago, supposedly spurred on by not just people limiting exposure at a young age but also radically impinging our microbes and whatnot through over-vigilant hand washing and antibacterial soaps. When I was a kid in the early '80s, I heard about bee allergies (which I never hear about now) but rarely other allergies. Things have changed, but I guess the numbers are starting to shift back as our approach to allergens shifts, too.

Your basic wikipedia search is lol because it uses so many competing sources that it's all over the place.

It is due to a type I hypersensitivity reaction of the immune system in susceptible individuals.[2] The allergy is recognized "as one of the most severe food allergies due to its prevalence, persistency, and potential severity of allergic reaction."[1]

Prevention may be partly achieved through early introduction of peanuts to the diets of pregnant women and babies.[3]

In the United States, peanut allergies are present in 0.6% of the population.[4] In Western cultures, peanut allergy is the most common cause of food-related anaphylaxis death.

It is one of the most common causes of food-related death.[22] However, there is an increasing body of medical opinion that the measures taken in response to the threat may be an over-reaction out of proportion to the level of danger:[23] "About 3.3 million Americans are allergic to nuts, and even more—6.9 million—are allergic to seafood. However, all told, serious allergic reactions to foods cause just 2,000 hospitalisations a year (out of more than 30 million hospitalisations nationwide). And only 150 people (children and adults) die each year from all food allergies combined." Media sensationalism has also been blamed.[24]

Frequency among adults and children is similar—around 1%—but at a study shows self-reports of peanut allergy are on the rise in children in the United States.[25] The number of young children self-reporting the allergy doubled between 1997 and 2002.[26] Studies have found that self-reported rates of food allergies is higher than clinically-observed rates of food allergies.

But then there's....

In those with mild peanut allergies, gradually eating more and more peanuts resulted in at least some short-term benefits.[33] Due to the amount of evidence being small and the high rate of adverse effects, this is not currently recommended as treatment.[33]

Sublingual immunotherapy involves putting gradually increasing doses of an allergy extract under a person's tongue.[32] The extract is then either spat or swallowed.[32] It is not currently recommended as treatment; however, it is being studied.[32]

Epicutaneous immunotherapy involves giving the allergen through a patch.[32] Trials look promising and are ongoing.[32]

An early trial of injecting escalating doses of peanut allergen was conducted in 1996. However, one participant died seconds after injection from laryngospasm due to a pharmacy error in calculating the dose. The death abruptly ended one of the only studies on injected allergen desensitization to peanut allergies

OH U THINK??? Emphases mine.

FWIW, I know several parents of kids with serious or severe allergies, mostly to nuts but a couple to tons of stuff, and they're relatively chill. They know their limits, and the kids know their limits, and when needed they pack an epipen or give special instructions. I'm not sure if any of them have to avoid contact entirely, though.

The most high strung parents I know are parents of kids with diabetes, but they really have to be vigilant, since young kids can't reliably test blood sugar and numbers can spike all over the place.

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