Things to see and do in London

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I'm visiting london town in april for the first time from my distant scottish outpost - any suggestions on places to visit and things to seek out?

leigh, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the pub!

Lots of more cultured posters will offer alternative suggestions - what dates are you coming down?

Tom, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

26-28 april - i was hoping to go to the coil/plaid/mouse on mars thing at the barbican on 27/4 but my friend's birthday party's on the same night and she'd be very pissed off if i blew her out for that

leigh, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i obviously don't count as one of the more cultured posters - as i second "The pub"!

katie, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I went to an Irish bar in London. It was ridiculous, we'd been wandering around for ages and we needed a pint and then next thing we were in "Waxy O'Connors" genuine Irish bar, complete with bikes nailed to the wall.

The most amusing moment of the weekend was when we started saying stupid "London phrases" to people on the street in a sort of over pronounced careful Irish tourist way. For example "Excuse me "GUV'NOR"

It was quite funny.

Ronan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Fucking tourists. Grrr.

Emma, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan that is tragic. Not that I can talk since when I was in France last May watching my cousin's school play performance of Bugsy Malone (cultural lowpoint of 2001!) we needed a pint and ended up in the fake-English horror of "Charley's Pub".

Tom, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I know, it's a shame. I should have asked for the names of decent pubs to go to. The thing is aswell, if you've ever been in that place,(I think it's near "CHARING CROSS ROAD" heh), it's huge, absolutely massive, it goes downstairs and is quite cavernous. And I could just imagine it being full of people watching hurling and drinking guinness singing wolfe tones songs. even when we were there you could see the place filling up.

I dunno. we were thirsty.

Ronan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The very very worst thing about you ending up at Waxy O'Connors is that it is merely twenty yards from The Blue Posts Rupert Street, scene of much ILE excitement including the visit of Mr Dan Perry, Ned being kicked out of Trig Brother for spilling beer and a staple of many a pub crawl.

Waxy O'Connors is the on;y place I have ever taken cocaine.

Pete, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Rupert Street Blue Posts has fallen on hard times of late though.

Tom, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How so, Tom?

Tim, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We also went to "the Theatre Bar" on hmmmmm can't remember. Under a theatre anyway. What a dump, but we had to meet someone there who proposed it as the venue. We went to The Forest Gate in yes yes Forest Gate where my brother lives and it was nice in an "old people watching sport" kind of way.

The only place that was particularly nice was "The Clinic" bar, which was good enough. Can't remember where that was but there you go. I didn't see much of London really, didn't have enough money to do much besides drink and laze around watching tv.

Ronan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim, they have removed the jukebox! There is a huge gaping hole in the middle of the pub. Now admittedly when the juker was there it was a little unpredictable what with the bar staff turning it right down if good pop music came on and right up when crappy rock music came on but still, it was an integral part of the pub. Plus the sodding upstairs room is always booked out for an alleged private party.

Emma, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They hadnt replaced it with any tables either - the pub looks really really spartan now - we had to crouch round a barrel.

Tom, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crouch round a barrel != have a barrel of fun.

Tim, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A barrel? they're at least halfway to it being an "Irish Bar". Just give them a cartwheel and change the name to O'Hooleys and you're set.

Ronan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

When Tom says crouch what he means is sit on stools. Admittedly fairly awkward as the stools were significantly higher than the barrel.

Emma, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I believe the publog has mentioned this demise. Cheers Tim by the way for excellent publogging this week.

Pete, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes Emma so we had to lean forward in a crouching pose. Oh OK crouch was a bit of an exaggeration but it certainly felt pretty primitive.

Tom, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan that below-theatre is THE PHOENIX!! And I love it - tho as others will say my pubs needs are peculiar, and poss.bettah served by other kinds of establishments (library reading rooms, sweet shops etc). It has terrifically creepy paintings including a NUDE that will give you nightmares.

I think I also went to Waxy O'Connors wiv Marcello. It holds grim memories for me for other reasons, that I had forgotten until I went in with him. I may be misremembering. I am the cat who walks by himself and all pubs are alike to me.

mark s, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Theatre Place is very like a place I frequented in Dublin for about two years when I was underage. I imagine it's the sort of place you might get to like after a few visits in a row. However I was only there once.

Ronan, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Hello. I am reviving this thread for my own selfish porpoises.

It's bank holiday weekend in London, and my lady has been a bit sad recently, under lots of stress with moving and work, etc. I want to take her out and do something fun and special in London, so that she will have nowt but fond memories of her adopted home. She has frequently asked if we can row a boat in a park somewhere. I fear that the weather on Monday may be bad, however. If not, where is best for rowing? The Serpentine? If it rains, what is something special and "nice" that we can do?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 2 May 2003 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I could supply an update of things i saw and did when i got to London but i'm sure that'd interest noone. I'll be back down later this month for the Radiohead gigs at shepherds bush empire but i doubt i'll be able to do much beyond the gigs as i arrive at around midday on saturday 25th and leave at about 14.30 on monday 26th.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 2 May 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

nordicskillz, did you make that pun on purpoise?

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 May 2003 12:01 (twenty-two years ago)

re rowing: battersea is bettersea

re raining: go to tate modern

mark s (mark s), Friday, 2 May 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

nordicskillz, did you make that pun on purpoise?

My dog ate my homework, mr m!
(very poor "stevem IS a geography teacher joke)

Thanks, Mark ;).

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

eight years pass...

I have an interview at Kingston University on the 24th, and because I'm a bus-using cheapskate that means I'll be in London from 7:05 till 23:45. Presumably dying when I get home at 10am the following day. I've really only passed through before, so what are the ILX recommendations on what I should do and where I should go? (Tastes: vaguely hipstery but up for anything, budget: as little as is possible.) Is there anything in the Kingston area itself worth seeing?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

in the day kingston is mostly a shopping town. there are some lovely parks in the area + parts of the river but tbh i reckon you'd have more fun hopping on the fast train up to waterloo. prob depends on what time your interview is + where you catch your bus home though i guess.

all the way bernt up (tpp), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:16 (fourteen years ago)

there is SO MUCH you could do in London this is kind of hard to think about!

I will always recommend walking along the river, crossing bridges whenever you feel like it, as an excellent way to spend your time (Tate Britain to Tate Modern is quite a good stretch).

górecki's zygotic mynci (c sharp major), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:32 (fourteen years ago)

What time's your interview? If it's early then London is basically your oyster until 11pm, otherwise you might be a bit more constrained. Otherwise river/South Bank/Tate Modern is a good suggestion.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:42 (fourteen years ago)

the last time i took a number 4 bus it occurred to me that between waterloo and angel it gives you a fantastic view. So you could do that, get off at Angel, wander through Clerkenwell, cross the Gray's Inn Road and and go to Lincoln's Inn to see Sir John Soane's Museum, then into Covent Garden or Bloomsbury, then... I don't know, it's all pretty good. The problem is sometimes you're a street away from something amazing and you don't know it and the street you're in feels dead and dull and empty-- I think of it like being in the margins of a page.

górecki's zygotic mynci (c sharp major), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 11:51 (fourteen years ago)

same view on 341, much quicker ride to angel :)

ledge, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 13:08 (fourteen years ago)

ok, no st pauls.

ledge, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 13:08 (fourteen years ago)

If it's a nice day then the river in both directions is lovely - Hampton Court one way, Richmond the other. I don't recall Kingston itself offering much, but Richmond's gorgeous and has a cracking big park. I love wandering aimlessly and tbh you could walk all the way to town from there and I'd find it terrific entertainment but ymmv.

All that said, train to London is probably still the way to go - it's only twenty minutes or so. You need to be more precise if you want useful suggestions though, I feel.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 13:39 (fourteen years ago)

if it's a nice day and assuming you have the time i'd take a walk through richmond park then make your way over to angel, or shoreditch or dalston or something. use that as your starting point for exploring filthy east london. look at hipsters, drink in parks, see a band, eat some vietnamese or turkish food, wander round brick lane, whitechapel art gallery usually has some good stuff on, there's a good rockin' groovin' noisey jazz improv kinda night at a bar near there on some tuesdays.

all of this is especially true if the weather is good. when it's nice weather there are few places i'd rather be than this part of london.

unless you want to do sightseeing, in which case, see all of the above.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:13 (fourteen years ago)

Kingston to Dalston is a LONG way!

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:17 (fourteen years ago)

takes about an hour from richmond? not too bad really.

also, fuck getting a bus in the morning. you doing a national express type thing? to victoria? i've been stuck there before and it's pretty cool just hanging out drinking coffee and reading through the night till the first bus leaves...

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

*getting a bus at midnight

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

Given the choice between getting a bus through the night and potentially sleeping and hanging around Victoria bus station all night I'd probably plump for the former no matter how grim it is.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

thank youss, this all sounds very good. Yeah, I'm arriving and leaving from Victoria, the two overnight bus journeys will, I know from experience, be brutal, so I'm looking to make this day as worthwhile as possible even if the interview is disastrous. The interview itself is at 2:30, would be better if it was early and I had the whole day free, but eyyy, I can work with that.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2011/05/12/late-night-openings-at-london-museums-this-weekend/

<3 London

DISPLAY NAMING RIGHTS (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:03 (fourteen years ago)

i'd have a look at what exhibitions are currently on and pick something to your taste - london's best done on specifics rather than vague "go to that area, go to any old gallery" etc.

http://www.timeout.com/london/art/ is where i usually check these things

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 May 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

I'm looking for some off the beaten path things to do in London.

I'll be in town September 12-24. I've been to London several times before so I've done all the London-y things before; so now I am looking for more obscure things.

HOLLA BACK IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS!

homosexual II, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago)

Horniman museum
The Brunel Museum at the Thames Tunnel
Walk the canal from Paddington to Southall
Visit the Seaside (Whitstable, Margate)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago)

Thank you N., I see the park/cemetary/etc featured in that crap film Closer is included in this list. Woohoo!!

homosexual II, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago)

def the horniman museum! an ilxor took me, it is really great.
go to the barbican if you've a couple of hours to kill, or especially on a sunny day. being there to kill time is kinda the best because it's just such a nice environment to be in, though there's a gallery and a library and a lot of music and theatre on as well.

electric avenue, and all the indoor markets, in brixton, too. it kinda looks like how london looks, to me, probably more than portobello road or w/e does.

, Blogger (schlump), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

So, now that Time Out has gutted its listings in the print version, and the website still seems horrible, where is good for London listings?

I've been getting gig listings by monitoring http://www.londonears.com/ and http://www.londongigs.net/ for a while now. Resident advisor does a better job of clubbing listings. I guess the main thing I miss is the art listings - is there anything like what Time Out used to have? I know we have a thread:

RFI: Current Art Exhibitions in London

but that seems to have died.

toby, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 07:13 (twelve years ago)

http://gallerygoers-schedule.blogspot.co.uk/ (HT to ledge)

koogs, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 08:36 (twelve years ago)

For gigs I would turn to Last FM before either of those two:

http://www.last.fm/events/+place/United+Kingdom/London

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 08:38 (twelve years ago)

Heathrow to Holborn is roughly 50 minutes on the Piccadilly so not hugely inconvenient, also interesting to see West London neighbourhoods on the way in, where the Tube is above ground.

jane burkini (suzy), Monday, 21 November 2016 15:16 (eight years ago)

also it will be 11am and i will be exhausted and in no hurry to get to a hotel room that isn't ready yet

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2016 15:20 (eight years ago)

If you buy a weekly Travelcard from a train station, you’ll be given a paper version of the Travelcard. There’s no deposit to worry about but they need a passport-sized photo to make you a free photocard.

Christ, life is never easy. This doesn't apply to the Travelcard on the Oyster, right? Putting a card on another card -- even New York hasn't managed anything that convoluted.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2016 15:32 (eight years ago)

"travelcard" on the oyster is a skeuomorphism - it just means you've pre-paid for unlimited travel in whichever zones you've chosen.

"a paper version of the travelcard" is a card for travelling. a ticket. a pre-paid ticket unlimited travel in whichever zones you've chosen.

conrad, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:40 (eight years ago)

I don't think that helps - how tricky it is to describe concepts that you've never really had to think about

conrad, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:41 (eight years ago)

It's baffling, but honestly, just go to the underground station at Heathrow and buy an Oyster card and ask for a weekly Travelcard for zones 1 & 2 to be loaded onto it and put some additional cash on it at that stage which will cover you for the journey into central London and any straying outside zones 1 & 2 which you may do.

it's worth just getting an open return from the airport (paper ticket)

Don't get a paper ticket into London, it's twice the price of the Oyster fare. Get your Oyster card at Heathrow.

ailsa, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:52 (eight years ago)

Ailsa otm.

Tim, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:55 (eight years ago)

ya but the return is discounted

IDK you're probably right

imago, Monday, 21 November 2016 16:03 (eight years ago)

Hunterian is the absolute bomb. When I worked at GAFTA (which is right next to the John Soane museum) I used to nip through Lincoln's Inn Fields and spend my lunchhour looking at endless jars of rotting, pickled fetuses and syphilis-rotted penises. Heaven.

― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Monday, November 12, 2012

well there now

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:21 (eight years ago)

Finding pleasant ways to fill up a lunch hour can be tricky.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:32 (eight years ago)

hardly popping over our way morbs?

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:48 (eight years ago)

which way? btw i will be sleeping in Fitzrovia/Bloomsbury, not KC

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:48 (eight years ago)

dublin!

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:48 (eight years ago)

Which is probably in zone 9, aye?

ailsa, Monday, 21 November 2016 22:51 (eight years ago)

Also, meant to thank Matt & imago for Blackheath recommendations - we ended up just staying in central London and heading straight for Blackheath Halls, then heading straight back again.

ailsa, Monday, 21 November 2016 23:03 (eight years ago)

looking fwd to creeping thru this Peeping Tom location...

http://www.urban75.org/blog/newman-passage-fitrovia-a-walk-into-londons-past/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:36 (eight years ago)

x-post

...then heading straight back again

not exactly selling the delights of Blackheath to me.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:43 (eight years ago)

anyone been to this at Barbican?

http://www.urban75.org/blog/wonderful-welsh-surrealism-with-bedwyr-williams-the-gulch-at-the-barbican-curve-london/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:07 (eight years ago)

xp
"...a prostitute being picked up a punter in the passage (try saying that after a few beers)"

Pints! After a few pints!

nickn, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:15 (eight years ago)

i think that blog is by an American

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:27 (eight years ago)

He's a dreadlocked welsh guy who lives in Brixton and is the drummer with the reformed Monochrome Set.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:39 (eight years ago)

anyone been to this at Barbican?

http://www.urban75.org/blog/wonderful-welsh-surrealism-with-bedwyr-williams-the-gulch-at-the-barbican-curve-london/

It's OK - worth a look if you happen to be in the Barbican already or maybe within 15 minutes walk, not worth it otherwise (imo).

toby, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:44 (eight years ago)

shit, i'm going to need an outlet adapter to plug in my laptop, aren't i?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:51 (eight years ago)

not exactly selling the delights of Blackheath to me.

I'm sure it's lovely, but time was at a premium so we decided to do more touristing and less drinking. Sorry, Blackheath :-(

ailsa, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:45 (eight years ago)

hey kids, my dance card is filling up rapidly if you wan to FAP with me... Sunday and Tuesday eves seem the best options.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 November 2016 07:30 (eight years ago)

Sunday is good for me (can't do tuesday).

How about the Lamb & Flag? http://www.lambandflagcoventgarden.co.uk/

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 November 2016 20:55 (eight years ago)

i think that could/should work. I will be at the BM with a Mancunian friend i haven't seen in a dozen years, so i don't want to ditch him too early, not before 5 (if he doesn't want to come along). But otherwise no problems. I suspect I'll be out with plax(ico) on Tuesday, and eventually at the Lexington, so perhaps there'll be two noncompulsory options...

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:16 (eight years ago)

(remember my daily plans are usu etched in stone by 9am bcz no mobile phone/texts/online etc)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 November 2016 09:23 (eight years ago)

Ok then I'll be there by 6pm. If the plans change update this thread tomorrow morning and I'll out for that.

I'll be having this book on the table: https://www.faber.co.uk/9780571289264-gottfried-benn-impromptus.html

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 November 2016 11:55 (eight years ago)

I will be with you in spirit!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 26 November 2016 12:36 (eight years ago)

i will aim for 6, no later than 6:30, ok?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 November 2016 01:42 (eight years ago)

ok, see you then.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 November 2016 09:02 (eight years ago)

Bah my "oh Christ what happened to my weekend" is kicking in earlier than usual - xyzzzz__, could you apologise for me? I'll be song on Tuesday.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 November 2016 15:43 (eight years ago)

*along

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 November 2016 15:43 (eight years ago)

sure.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 27 November 2016 15:45 (eight years ago)

tuesday for me too

mark s, Sunday, 27 November 2016 15:49 (eight years ago)

This was fun. Started with Castro, ended with Britpop memories. I recommend it :)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 November 2016 08:37 (eight years ago)

:D

I will be busy down Thameside til around 6ish Tuesday, so Lexington around 6:30 is fine for all? Look for the shivering elder in green jacket/black hoodie combo.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 November 2016 08:42 (eight years ago)

things to do and see in london = meet up with dr morbius (and andrew farrell) at the lexington :)

mark s, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:15 (eight years ago)

And fuck losing lose a hat on the way back! But the company was excellent.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:35 (eight years ago)

sorry for your hat. i got into the show, though.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2016 01:29 (eight years ago)

Awesome!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 December 2016 09:51 (eight years ago)

:)

mark s, Thursday, 1 December 2016 09:53 (eight years ago)

friend's coming up to london, and i'm trying to decide what to do. current toss-up between Ally Pally to Victoria station walk (it's more park than street, plus i know where the pubs are), but also toying with the idea of doing the situationist thing and getting a map of another city and using it to navigate london. i'm wondering which cities wd be appropriate. was thinking berlin (large) but that's boring because i know it already and it seems a bit unexotic. thought maybe Havana (this is after all about SMASHING the bonds of subliminal bourgeois ideology and false consciousness) but Havana's a port and that doesn't map well on to London.

Any thoughts or shd I take it to the guess the city thread? (I'm meeting friend at Charing X, which is handy for mapping in its sometime rule as arbitrary central point of London)

Fizzles, Saturday, 3 December 2016 10:27 (eight years ago)

Delhi? It's large, not particularly well planned and has a big river through the middle.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Saturday, 3 December 2016 13:55 (eight years ago)

thanks SV. ended up doing the Ally Pally to Victoria (only getting as far as Regent's Park) but Delhi an excellent suggestion and will plan and poss thread in new year.

Fizzles, Sunday, 4 December 2016 12:11 (eight years ago)

two years pass...

Strong sense of the unreal about this new globular arena next to Stratford Westfield.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/mar/27/proposed-designs-revealed-for-msg-sphere-uk-largest-concert-arena-east-london

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:25 (six years ago)

mewlingly credulous article there

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:36 (six years ago)

lol otm

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 13:58 (six years ago)


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