Cricket Winter 2006/07 THE ASHES

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I'm not too confident at the moment.

And Jones is in as wicketkeeper to strengthen the batting. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/6140748.stm
But perhaps this means they might play Monty?

Lets hope Tres finds his form quickly and him and Strauss get some good century partnerships so the pressure isn't on Cook/Pietersen/Bell.
If they indeed choose all three. They might choose Jones and Giles so the batting is stronger if they decide to go with an extra bowler incase Fred isn't up to bowling as much as he normally would.

I don't think Mahmood is up to it. We're gonna miss Simon Jones.
Lets hope Harmison and Hoggard find their form too when it matters.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

We have the players but do we have the form.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

No

Copy (2) {AWOL} v ECC 28/05/06 (Lynskey), Sunday, 12 November 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cricket-online.com/images/players/56080450.jpg

"Mate, it's gonna be 5-0...uh, we winning of course..."

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

Given the number of English players either returning from injury or "out of form" their laxidasical approach to both training and practice matches has so far been puzzling. They seem to be treating the preliminaries as an extended holiday rather than as an opportunity for valuable and sorely needed practice.

Perhaps the current rain in Sydney will spare them further humiliation on this tour. At least until the First Test starts.

Slipper (Dough Boy), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

What about England vs. Fat Bastards South Australia this coming weekend then?

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Monday, 13 November 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

Solid enough vs NSW so far. Worried about Harmison though - v. expensive in the NSW first innings.

So, urgent and key questions :

1) 4 or 5 bowlers? It's v. important that we don't lose the first test, but 4 bowlers is too negative. But it's a hell of a tail if we play say Mahmood, Hoggard, Harmy and Monty at 8-11.

2) Reduce the tail by Playing Giles? I don't like this, but I think it might happen. Giles has not batted in a test for ages and is less likely to skittle top-order batsmen than Panesar. Both will play in Sydney and possibly Adelaide?

3) Which batsman to leave out. Looks like it's going to be Collingwood, which means a top 5 of Strauss, Tres, Cook, Bell and KP. I'd leave out Tres - he's surely not ready mentally or in form. I'd open with Cook and Strauss, then Bell, KP and Collingwood. Bell at 3 does worry me a bit though.

4) If 4 pacemen, who is the 4th? Mahmood is probably the best suited to hard wickets, but will his poor 1-day form affect his game? Plunkett I think is lucky to be on this tour and I can't see him contributing. So, I'd go for Anderson IF we play 4 seamers. Hopefully his action is more grooved-in than when last seen (economy figures v NSW suggest that it is), but that worry apart I like his ability to move the ball both ways off the seam and get a bit of swing too.

5) Wicketkeeper. It's going to be Jones, but I'd go for Read. I don't feel too strongly about it though.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 13 November 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

Panesar instead of Giles for this test plz. The batting is shaping up a bit. Obv lots of concern - Warne vs Cook, McGrath vs Bell? Unfortunately looks like Trescothick will become a bit of a passenger - surely his last series for England, unless he rediscovers hunger? Therefore Collingwood to play a part as a result.

We'll see whether it all gets too much for Flintoff..

How do we think the Aussies are doing? Hussey looking like he'll be a key player already. Have the Aussies hung on to too many of the old guard. Shane Watson?

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's fucking outrageous that they won't let Phil Jacques in the team so they can keep Langer decomposing at the crease and is a rather short-term strategy.

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

treatment of chris read = scandalous

james anderson or paul collingwood = i'd go collingwood, fletcher will go anderson. or giles. argh.

shane watson will have a pretty decent series with the bat

hussey will do ok, but not spectacularly.

gilchrist will play at least one match-defining innings

trescothick should be batting at 4, between bell and kp

england tend to live and die as a team. what we really need is for someone (ie KP/Harmison) to buck the trend if all is going pear-shaped and play an innings for the ages/bowl an inspired spell

Harmison will do better than most of us are predicting. I'm not even sure I'd pick him on form atm.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

I am sure that England are, if anything, TOO wound up about the series but are actively playing it down (not by losing warm-up matches, I just mean in their public and press image). The side is far too weak to win the series, unfortunately.

As for Giles vs Panesar, Monty is absolutely the only choice. Giles *might* add 20 runs to the total, but the opportunity cost is the chance that Panesar could skittle players early on before they reach their centuries - and none of the mnatches are going to be as close as 20 runs, I'll wager.

Giles is a backup. If Monty falls apart then fine, bring him in. But to start with the reserve? That would be just pointless.

Also, Chris Read is wildly out of form. Jones has experience against Australia. Seems an obvious one to me.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

chris read's test form = average of 40 in current spell, more runs in 3 innings than jones in 20

and c'mon, it was pretty harsh, the way it was done.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

the 'more runs in 3 innings than jones in 20' was an exaggeration. maybe jones in 10-15.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

England seem a rather disjointed unit right now. At the start of the last series we def had the form coming into it, the captain that ws tried and tested. Just like last time there were a few worries, such as Vaughan's batting (could we win w/out a series of contributions from him) and whether we could shake off the memories of past defeats and how would the new players do? This time: Can Bell shake off his bad experience last time around? Can Cook manage to not only look more than assured against spin, but to do it against the best of them all? And Monty..

I don't think Eng are weak, we simply DO possess the players now that can turn a game on its head - so Harmison may not come good, but it wouldn't surprise me if he produced a spell that could define the series, a spell that really could shake up a lot of the Aussie batsmen.

And the Aussies players must be very wound up, too. We'll see what the home advantage does to their game, and whether they have hung on to a few of their old guard, not least John Buchanan, who is doing the job till the world cup.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

England's treatment of Read has been reasonable. They need him to score BIG runs, or they may as well stick with Jones. He has done OK, but not well enough. Jones has done well before against these bowlers.

Tres at 4? Interesting idea, but no. Tres shouldn't be touring.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Jones has done well before against these bowlers

he has hit two fifties in about 20 Test + ODI innings against them, Read has only faced them once (and admittedly gotten a second-ball duck), but that argument doesn't explain the handling of the situation.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

ODI's don't count.

In the Ashes series he averaged 25 with an 85, a 40, a 30 and a 27 n.o.

He'll need to do better this time, but at least he has an idea of what's required. The management clearly believe that Read is vulnerable with the bat against the v.best.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

can I please draw the britishes' attention to boonanza.com.au, where you can order david boon and ian botham figurines that interact with the australian TV broadcast and try to zing each other?

H2-H4 (H2-H4), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

There'd better be a youtube demo of such things...

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm unsurprised by the treatement of Read (I am an unashamed Read fan). I'd be surprised if either Read or Jones last into next season in the england set-up, lack of central contract = clearing the decks for Davies or Foster?

I think five bowlers is a viable strategy but dropping Collingwood would be counterproductive, he's the only middle order player you can see grinding out an innings a la Thorpey. As suggested by Dr C I'd prefer Cook / Strauss to open, followed by the usual middle order. Bell will do fine, he's a totally different batsman now.

I suspect Hussey's going to have a monstrous series, this worries me, but all told I don't think it's as doom and gloomy as all that. Warne aside the Aus attack doesn't really look that worrying any more, Bracken, Watson et al look useful but nothing more.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed on wicketkeepers, Matt. Davies will play at least 50 tests for England eventually. I hope they try him next summer. Foster is also excellent.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Trescothick is clearly a broken man. I doubt he's mentally strong enough to even carry the drinks at the moment.

Fine Legs (Sans Sushi), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I do hope Australia play MacGill & Warne more often than not, the two leggies will be needed

mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

Anderson went well against NSW - a good sign.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Looked like a handy spell regardless of the provenance of the match. The two sentences which have really leaped out at me from the first two matches are a dropped catch and a missed stumping from Jones. Not fair on him, I know, but whenever he misses something it screams out at you.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

Trescothick is clearly a broken man. I doubt he's mentally strong enough to even carry the drinks at the moment.

indeed, he's gone home.

mason storm (mason storm), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

Cook in line to open with Strauss it would seem.

mason storm (mason storm), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/6146688.stm

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

Well that's one little selection problem solved. Poor Marcus, he shouldn't have gone.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Who to bring into the squad? The smart money says Shah, Joyce or Key...

(but sadly not Ramps) :-(

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

What a mess. I wonder what the hell is wrong with him really? At least this has happened now and not mid-series. Replacement won't be Joyce. I'm guessing Shah will get the nod after his impressive debut last winter. My choice would be Key for 2 reasons - firstly he can open and secondly he's played in an Ashes series before and not disgraced himself.

I really hope they don't try and rush Vaughan into the team.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

I would go for Rob Key myself but then again I have no idea of what he has been like in county cricket for the past few years.

Bell was much happier batting at 5, but cant really have collingwood batting higher than that, so I guess it is going to be
Strauss, Cook, Bell, Pietersen, Collingwood, Flintoff, Jones, Giles, Hoggard, Harmison and... I wouldn't be surprised if they go with 2 spinners in Monty. I am not convinced by Mahmood at all. Though Fletcher probably is.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Anderson in for Giles, tail to rival Irani-Caddick-Mullally-Tufnell-Giddins vs. NZ in '99 for sheer ineptitude?

Our batsmen should be scoring the runs, besides.

ANYWAY, here's some light relief...

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9739/kpee7.jpg

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

that's cheating, players aren't allowed to be naked, nor have magic shielding last time I looked at the Laws Of Cricket

mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)

Joyce is in as Tres replacement! I would have preferred someone who could open. That would suggest that Bell will cover as opener if either Strauss or Cook get crocked. Maybe it also means that they are serious about Vaughan taking part later in the series.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

"that's cheating, players aren't allowed to be naked, nor have magic shielding last time I looked at the Laws Of Cricket"

You can however be out "time travel bubble ignites wicket" it's Pietersons most common method of dismissal.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

I looked it up on Cricinfo.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

The bails are still on though. Perhaps after an hour or two's smouldering they'll crumble which puts a kind of one-day urgency onto Kev's scoring. Which might explain a lot, actually.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

made me laugh, anyway.

www.tntmagazine.com/ashes/tomvconal/

Pete W (peterw), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oh how times have changed. I'm trying to imagine the same photo with Mike Gatting.

Copy (2) {AWOL} v ECC 28/05/06 (Lynskey), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Channel Nein are promoting their Ashes telecast with a commercial which, from what I gather, is about a chick with big knockers. In an Australian bikini, alright. With Richie saying "marvelous". And did I mention her tits? Phowar!

Sadly, that commerical always seems to be followed by that wacky Advanced Hair Studio commercial with Warne, Gooch and a text message.

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Sunday, 19 November 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I sadly doubt that the feral element of the Aussie fanbase (which sadly seems to be the majority these days) is able to come up with a better insult than "lol those pommies don't wash lol" or avoid resorting to the great Australian tradition of racist comments at the cricket (with poor old Monty taking the abuse of these dimwits this summer).

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Sunday, 19 November 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

sky have an advert that shows flintoff and the caption comes up

PROS

and then it cuts to warney and it says

& CONS...

oh good grief...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 20 November 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

So Flintoff is a 'pro'? Do they have any evidence to back that serious allegation? Has he been secretly filmed up to no good in Acland Street?

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

Bell out? Joyce at no.3 for the first match of an Ashes series?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

word up brian lara, btw. one of his better ones by all accounts.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

McGrath becomes top-scorer in the heavy-hitters' club

GLENN McGrath is about to make another impact in the world of batting by wielding a willow the likes of which hasn't been seen for decades.

When he next strides to the wicket in his customary No.11 spot, McGrath will carry with him a bat weighing a whopping three pounds two ounces - 1.42 kilograms - making it the heaviest in world cricket, heavier even than the monsters used by Indian champion Sachin Tendulkar and South African big-hitter Lance Klusener.

the gangsta Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (H2-H4), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, really.

the gangsta Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (H2-H4), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

he really is a right plank

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

So are you people staying up all night for this or...?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

No, but I may get up early to check on progress. We HAVE to win the toss and bat first. Bell is fit - good. Giles looks as if he will win the nod over Panesar - the logic is obvious, but I'm not sure that it's the right call.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

I might actually tune in for some of this so I can finally try and figure out the game, assuming they don't block BBC coverage as per usual. Over here Smithsonian had a neat story recently about the game in America and its low-key revival due to immigration from the various cricket powerhouses.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Cool - I hope you manage to tune in.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm probably going to stay up all night. I have a convenient essay crisis on the topic of Christ's Body in medieval literature, the pain of undertaking which can only truly be mollified by an evening's Test Match Special...

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Weird thing with the Beeb homepage.

If I select "Ashes Mode Off" all the sports headlines are about The Ashes yet if I select "Ashes Mode On" all the sports headlines are about football (albeit with an Ashes link up the top)
:-/

ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

AAAAAAARE YOOOOU REEEADY TO RUMMMMMMMMBLE???

australia 290-7 at close, i predict.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'd far rather England had won the toss.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 23 November 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Harmisons 1st over was a shocker.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 23 November 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

And his second was worse! He's already been pulled.

Right, bed. When I wake up I expect...300-0, unfortunately.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 November 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

is it me or are they having an awful lotof technical problems wiht the OB?

I really should go to bed, but I'd like to see a wicket. Not sure I can afford to stay up *all* night though

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 23 November 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I'm going to bed too. This has all the hallmarks of 1989 again.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 23 November 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Fred got the wicket of Hayden and i'm definitely off to bed now. 300-1 in the morning probably

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 23 November 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

I only have a twenty-minute window of Ashes watching between coming hom from lecture and going to the doctor. BUT THEN I HAVE THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON.

A mere 2/141 so far. I say 4/400 at stumps!

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

(I need to get as much viewing from the first two tests because I won't see anything afterwards!)

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. Already it'll be tough to save this one.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Balls.

Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm gonna rely on this thread for my cricket updates now. A simple "balls" seems much more preferable to reading "600-2 OH NO!" or whatever the score is now.

ledge (ledge), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

It's not quite that bad, although it's still pretty desolate. My prediction sadly relied upon England bowling at all well...

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

The highlights on the BBC website don't make pretty viewing for us non-Sky heads.

Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

3/345 at stumps = England already lost the Ashes?

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

No - We lost the first test in the last Ashes series and look what happened. Still, the spirit doesn't seem there yet. It's early days but...

I fear for England when Warne gets bowling on this wicket. And unless we can scuttle a few in the morning I can see the follow on being a major problem

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Look, they're going to get 500+. And they'll probably get them by mid-afternoon tomorrow. That puts massive pressure on our batsmen, even on a good pitch. Imagine the sort of fields that they'll set for Warne. We could get out of this only by matching their first innings score. That's going to be tough.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed - we need to have someone who can stay there for a day and a half, becuase the follow on is liable to be 350 at the lowest, which puts lots of pressure on the likes of Strauss, Cook and Bell.

Any chance of rain?!?

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Forecast for Friday

Brisbane 30° Fine

the gangsta Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (H2-H4), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Dr C entirely right. Realistically a draw is the most england can expect and to get that will require a monumental effort from the batsmen, one crumb of comfort is that Strauss excels at that sort of thing. Where's that fast, bouncy track we were promised? Will it only appear when Brett Lee bowls?

Also - 9 overs from Pietersen? What are the odds on us playing both spinners for the rest of the series?

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

*Will it only appear when Brett Lee bowls?**

Yes. And guess what......it'll turn as well when Warne bowls.

I think the Pietersen overs were a symptom of effectively being a bowler short, not any comment on the pitch. Anderson's figures don't look great either.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

the likes of Strauss, Cook and Bell

I was offered a bet last night that Ian Bell will go for less than 10. Din't take it, because I don't think he'll make double figures either.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ye of little faith.

If the batters get in then they'll be fine, Bell's improved enormously since last summer, Strauss and Pietersen are hardly rubbish and Cook looks a good player, I worry about him against Warne but his technique against seam is excellent, plus he has carted the Australians for a double hundred before now. Everyone always forgets Collingwood, which I suspect may be a good thing, he is too little praised and that's ideal. Jorries me, but then he always does. Fletcher seems to be of the opinion that he's suited to australian pitches because he's primarily a back-foot player, but then again, so's Read. We shall see.

We had a shit day, we've had them before, we'll have them again. This is not a bad side, unfortunately they bowled like the Somerset second XI this morning, I do not anticipate a repeat performance.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jorries = Jones worries. Not sure what happened there.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it all hangs on how England bats. If they bat well (or if we bowl poorly), then it should be a draw. If they bat poorly (or we bowl well), then it's an Australian win.

(TOO OBVIOUS?!?)

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

i think one of the joys of cricket is that it can be summed up pretty obviously ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not really looking forward to putting on teletext tomorrow morning.

Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not gonna stay up as long tonight for sure. Monty should have played considering the spin Pietersen got, but i understand why they played giles.
I think perhaps playing both spinners might just be an option considered. I wonder who would get dropped though.
Lets hope our top 6 all bat at their very best so we can get a draw.
Of course getting australia out cheaply would help the cause, but they look too well set. I think they will get 550-600 -6.
Ponting might just get a treble century too.

Pressure is really on Harmison today. Freddie can't carry the team the whole winter. If he gets injured we're fucked.
Last night I woke up and turned tv on only to see Pietersen get injured sliding for the ball. Just like simon jones did 4 years ago. Thankfully he's ok.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 24 November 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)


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