"Al-Jazeera English" to launch

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Go ahead and guess if you'll think it's going to make it to American cable TV.

It will have David Frost as well as offices in London and Washington.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

why would american cable networks carry al-jazeera?

there are 50 million mexicans here and most cable networks only have 1 or 2 spanish networks.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

the question is will they send an f-15 to shoot down the al-jazeera satellite

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

dude, this is an english-language service, and most cable networks carry all the 24/7 news channels they can get, don't they?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if DHS will be calling on Dish Network for the names of subscribers who pay to get the channel.

cable networks carry all the 24/7 news channels they can get, don't they?

Not here, they don't. Worldlink is one of the two channels I really miss after switching from DirecTV to cable.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

AWESOME!

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

A significant number of the journalists come from the BBC. If they get this right, it could be a massive propaganda coup.*

*Outside the US, obviously.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

"At the extremely high closing speeds of the two objects, no explosives would be necessary."

hardcore.

H2-H4 (H2-H4), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

It'll make it eventually. I wonder if some of the more refreshing aspects of Al-Jazeera will transfer over, like long arguments that give each side ten minutes straight to talk, with two short SUV commercials every 20 minutes. I haven't watched in few years, so this might be different now...

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

Worldlink is one of the two channels I really miss after switching from DirecTV to cable.

Worldlink is great. What was the other one?

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

RFD, the farm and ranching channel. Lots of cool horse shows, shows about chuckwagon/trail cooking, reruns of country music variety shows from the 60s. Shows about TRACTORS, f'godsake. TV untouched by guile or commercial concerns, apparently.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

reruns of country music variety shows from the 60s.

far out

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the word "martyr" (as a description of suicide bombers) has been banned from the English version, which somewhat worryingly suggests that it's used all the time in Arabic.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

source?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

From the Time magazine link:

Al-Jazeera executives stress that the two channels will remain separate, yet in the next breath say they will share crews, news footage and even on-air journalists on some occasions. According to aji news director Steve Clark, editors from both channels are trying to come up with a common mission statement and code of conduct, including an agreement concerning the use of words such as terrorist, suicide bomber and invader. While aji says it will strictly avoid "martyr" to describe casualties of conflict, the Arabic channel continues to use the term when describing Palestinians killed in clashes with Israeli forces."

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

how often are words like 'martyr' used then?

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the word "martyr" (as a description of suicide bombers) has been banned from the English version, which somewhat worryingly suggests that it's used all the time in Arabic.

No it doesn't. Anyway, laying guidelines as to how sensitive words should be used (ie what most news services do) doesn't equal "banning".

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

with that choad david frost, it's one of those (all too frequent) occasions when you have to wish peter cook were still with us.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

'It was reported that editors from both channels were trying to come up with a common mission statement and a code of conduct which included an agreement on the use of terms such as "martyrs", "terrorism" and "resistance".' [BBC]

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh...

I was just slightly mis-rembering something I read in Time two weeks ago - as the link above says, AJ (doha version) uses the term "martyr" to describe Palestinian casaulties in clashes with Israeli forces. Which I think is just as whacked as Fox News setting off party poppers when Saddam gets sentenced to hang.

And the English language version's bosses have said they will, again quoting from Time, "strictly avoid" using the word in that context.

S'all I'm saying. No hidden agendas here, just idle trivia.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

i mean frankly 'martyr' is about right; but i suppose it's a matter of intonation.

this is because basil fawlty's line, 'do i detect the scent of burning martyr?' is one of my stock phrases -- i don't think 'martyr' has heroic connotations!

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

with that choad david frost, it's one of those (all too frequent) occasions when you have to wish peter cook were still with us.

ah, but if peter cook had never been born, frost would've drowned in a swimming poolin the 1960s...

i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

should be the basis of 'back to the future iv'

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

Al-Jazeera typically describes Arab civilians who die as a result of political violence, or Arab soldiers who die, as "martyrs" - in the Arab world this is a totally unremarkable way to refer to these people and not doing so walks the line of disrespect

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

sure, but this version is not primarily for the arab world, but for e.g. england where this is not typical useage and hence i guess they're trying to iron it out. it don't think the word is offensive, but how is it unusual that in this kind of transition things like that would change? it's addressing a v. different audience.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

Launching this very second. 12 noon GMT.

xpost, exactly Enrique.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

And it's their first breaking news story - 8.1 earthquake hit Japan

Studio is horrid, horrible sweeping long shots of unmoored anchor people walking awkwardly around a moodily lit soundstage, using their hands a lot

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

They're now introducing themselves with clips of former Iraqi propaganda minister saying "I blame Al-Jazeera" and then Donald Rumsfeld, saying "I blame Al-Jazeera"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

"Hamas and Fatah have reached agreement on new Palestinian PM" !!!

Quite a story to start the first broadcast day with!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

they've got rageh omar as well, apparently. i was wondering why i hadn't seen him much recently...

are telewest/ntl picking this up? we don't even get fox at the mo, only bbc, cnn and msnbc. oh and euronews...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

It's definitely on Sky basic, but I don't know about the others

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

It was just pointed out to me that they are suffering from being about FIVE frames out of synch. Have an old friend, Imr4n Kh4n (ex-mag editor, not cricketer) who is working there but I'm not sure in what capacity, poached from Beeb. Hello Hand, how is work?

Great accidental funny: break to advert which opens behind the pastrami counter at Katz's. Gah I really wanted some mustard on that.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

work = bad lunches

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

It's a long walk to the real world from there.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

the fox-eye view:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2454612,00.html#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=Britain

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

"While aji says it will strictly avoid "martyr" to describe casualties of conflict, the Arabic channel continues to use the term when describing Palestinians killed in clashes with Israeli forces."

But Hello Sunshine says they use martyr to mean suicide bomber! Could Time magazine be lying?

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

i think i'd prefer the pinefox-eye view...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

hold on...

from the above link:

Then on to another Middle Eastern tragedy, Darfur. There was no siding with Sudan on this one: the reporter, Andrew Simmons, was as hard-hitting as the pictures of the refugees and the squalor,

Sudan is the Middle East now? has it MOVED?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

it borders egypt, so it's kind of arguable..

the headline on that story not only sits very oddly with the story itself - which says nothing about slickness and has nothing but praise for the hard-hitting news al-j was delivering on its first day - but it makes me think the editor had two angles poised to smash down upon al-j's head, depending on what the verdict was: if al-j ran nothing but hard news, it would be "depressing." if it was full of entertainment-tonight style camera angles and cheekbones, it would be "slick." but it had both! BAFF with both hands!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Sudan is the Middle East now? has it MOVED?

In the sense that the Middle East = Arab Countries + Iran, then Sudan is in it.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

"But Hello Sunshine says they use martyr to mean suicide bomber! Could Time magazine be lying? "

As I've already pointed out above, my first post was based on remembering an article from two weeks earlier. I then tracked down the article, in which it was clear that martyr is used to describe "Palestinians killed in clashes with Israeli forces," not suicide bombers.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 16 November 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Guardian review of Al-J's first day boiled down to disappointment at dearth of stories about London and the United States - be careful what you wish for, o Guardian journalist!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 November 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but the whole point of al-J is to offer these OTHER stories about a whole world outside the Anglophone one.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 16 November 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

"A Whole New Woooooorld..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

CJR Daily reviews the first 10 hours of broadcast.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 17 November 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm watching Riz Khan interview the exiled leader of Hamas. No punches being pulled at all. I'm feeling AJE is going to build a reputation for integrity very quickly in addition to having the access to people the BBC and CNN can't get at and also cover the stories that CNN and the BBC just don't know about or have less interest in covering.

Technically it's still somewhat shonky, I just watched a report from chile with inverted field order which I almost had to turn off. I hope they get over teething troubles like this soon.

I'm much more interested in watching this at home than BBC world/news24 or CNN, which only really get watched by me in hotel rooms.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 18 November 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

i can't get this to work. no satellite or cable, so have been trying to watch on the web ... the crappy 56k "free trial" thing either disconnects with a "-3225" error or (if i tool around with the streaming settings) gives me, er, a 404 error. fuck that. life's too short.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 18 November 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

no satellite or cable

i think i have identified your problem!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

i've been watching the lo-quality free feed and it really does make me want to pay the six bucks a month for the 24/7 feed. so so cool.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 18 November 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

scott, where is the feed?

like murderinging (modestmickey), Saturday, 18 November 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

i used to watch regular (arabic) al jazeera (w/subtitles!!) at this falafel place on the nw side of chicago. it was just like bizarro cnn, with all the crazy graphics and over made-up hosts, etc. weird.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1EBB4C7F-7F2E-4257-A04C-56678862E31A.htm

Real Player req.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

I did it. I subscribed us.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

so um, after watching the free low quality feed, how do you watch it again after the 15 minutes is up?

like murderinging (modestmickey), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

That's why I subscribed, I don't think you can.

I really appreciate how they do the weather report. The serene music-only break while you view computer-clouds and degrees hovering over the landscape gives your head a break to digest the info for a minute. Mud-volcanos! People shot while trying to farm olives! An African woman reporting on African issues! People melting motherboards! Aaah, Celsius. Aaah, cumulus.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

People melting motherboards!

WTF.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 19 November 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I'm not sure if you call them motherboards. There's a city in China that is the "recycling capital" where all the trash from China's huge economic expansion gets dumped in seeming piles in the streets. Then locals huddle around and separate out the parts for sale. Some people take the innards from cell phones, heat them, and scrape off the precious metals for resale. All very toxic, you know.

This station is this news junkie's wet dream --- a programme that looks at the "other side" of the story, the underbelly of the market, without the embarrassing lack of production values of Democracy Now! and its ilk.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Sunday, 19 November 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

Al Jazeera America is on in NYC, just launched. Curious to see if it's as solid as advertised.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/19/business/media/al-jazeera-america-promises-a-more-sober-look-at-the-news.html

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:09 (twelve years ago)

they are wayyyy more polished than at launch, that's for sure!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)

oh hang on - i didn't realize it's NOT al-j english? it's some new thing for americans?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)

Yep, we got our own channel. They bought out Current TV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_America

The channel is headquartered and run from studios on the first floor of the New Yorker Hotel and the Manhattan Center in New York City. It will also have 12 bureaus in cities like Washington, D.C. at the Newseum, Chicago, Detroit, Nashville, Los Angeles, Seattle, New Orleans, Dallas, Denver, Miami, and San Francisco (the headquarters of Current TV).

normally, i could give a fuck about tv news bu there seems to be the potential for some decent reporting if it's not hinging on advertising/private interest support... you know, oil aside.

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:47 (twelve years ago)

al_jazeera is literally the only news channel i can remotely stomach

imago, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:48 (twelve years ago)

I guess I assumed it would mainly be news about the rest of the world but that many US bureaus (bureaux?) makes me think they'll be doing a lot of domestic reporting too? (Of course a "bureau" can be like, a guy)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:49 (twelve years ago)

russia today >>>>>

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:49 (twelve years ago)

al-jazeera, even. don't want to make it sound like a person's internet name

russia today link?

imago, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)

i've been watching the warm up promo for the past hour in the background while working; it is very much gonna be about domestic reporting if you believe their hype

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)

imago i am pretty sure that post was a joke

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)

there's a lot of familiar names popping up: john seigenthaler, soledad o'brien, ali velshi

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:52 (twelve years ago)

My dad watches Russia Today religiously.

The TV station is generally good. The website is more variable.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)

They're officially live now. 1750 on Fios NYC for HD

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:00 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

russia today >>>>>

― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:49 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

armenian qt on russia today talking abt greenpeace rn >>>>>>>>

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 27 September 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)

what, in the alacrity of her opinions? surely u wdnt judge her on any other criteria

C/3 Jenks kakling Neu! military£ absinthe snkkt! pckls Özil JTCF njhtdgs (imago), Friday, 27 September 2013 20:42 (twelve years ago)

question time?

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Friday, 27 September 2013 20:48 (twelve years ago)

Ha, I was thinking it was strange they'd be running Armenian Question Time for a second there too.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Friday, 27 September 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)

then an extended puffpiece about robert reich who has now doneome populist documentary the trailer for which foregrounds his slight stature, he is 4'10 apparently? idk

larry king is 410

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 27 September 2013 20:59 (twelve years ago)

talking head on RT now claiming putin should have got the nobel peace prize

Austrian Economics (nakhchivan), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.