R.I.P. Ana Carolina Reston (Brazilian top model, 21 years old, 88 pounds, anorexia)

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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20766889-1702,00.html

http://www.estadao.com.br/banco/img/livre/2006/11/362006111511545415modeloanorexia2.jpg
http://jc.uol.com.br/infograficos/7741p.jpg

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know her at all - I just think that anorexia and bulimia are so utterly depressing and tragic and absurd and unnecessary and whythefuckdotheystillexist?

(Yes, I know, people die all over the place, poverty, famine, etc - I wasn't talking about them.)

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

That's quite sad.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ditto.

Incidentally, I think I read Armani no longer wants to work with size 0 models, so this is an even darker moment, really.

― Badrock Example (Barima), Thursday, 16 November 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

i saw this on teletext. i was appalled that the fashion industry said she showed no signs. i mean, please, she's (or was) 1,7 m and weighed 40 kg?!?

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 16 November 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

Barima, I'm not sure I follow what you mean.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think he's saying that very shortly some of the pressure that makes a model feel like she needs to starve herself to this degree might have been relieved. At least that's what I hope that's what he's saying.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

so this is an even darker moment, really

darker in that it took some girl's DEATH to reveal how fucked the situation was?

― researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Note: I don't actually think it will be, but I can understand hoping that it might.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Either there is approximately no information about this girl anywhere, or that is not her name.

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

conspiracy!

― researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

Try Ana Carolina - but it'll trouble you.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

She looked a lot like Mia Kirshner:

http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/7543/2001957105215095518_rs.jpg

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

There are a couple of articles about her death if you search for Reston in Google News (but first select Brasil - bottom of the Google News index page): http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=pt-BR&ned=pt-BR_br&ie=utf-8&q=Ana-Carolina-Reston

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Try Ana Carolina - but it'll trouble you.

She loved Los Hermanos and the Beatles. Consider her humanized to me.

She looked so different before she was extremely ill. Became A LOT paler.

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it was the lack of pre-death information that I presume roxy was querying - most top models have a fair presence on this here internets whereas googling for "Ana Carolina Reston" brings pretty much nothing.

xpost

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

it's hard to believe she's the same person here:

http://www.anacarolina.com/fotos/sensuales/final/sensuales039.jpg

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

As I say, it'll trouble you. You google and find yourself looking at pictures of ribs & arse, and thinking, mostly, that she wasn't well from the getgo.

You also find yourself thinking that looking at pictures of ribs & arse is a funny sort of way of showing respect.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

And of course of course it's ludicrous to diagnose from modelling shots (hence I'm similarly wary of taking the idea that she got more pale at face value), but what I'm aware of is that you look back on the shots, clock the hollows, and think, each time, "not well.. not well at all". Where, in different circumstances, you'd be content to consider her real purrty, like.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

What do you suggest we do then? Ignore? Not look at pictures of her that could help us realise that it's worse than we thought (she didn't look that skinny, not like, say, nicole richie)?

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 17 November 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

There is/was a popular ladies garment store in Burlington, VT that used to run photo ads using local, everyday ppl as models. No idea why they discontinued this practice, but I always thought it was very classy. There must be other retailers that do this. It would be pretty cool if more did.

― jim wentworth (wench), Friday, 17 November 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

Do whatever you're comfortable with. And yes, people can always be skinnier.

What I found disconcerting is that, in trying to work out who she was, I'm inevitably looking through fashion photos that, as you'd imagine, glamorise the size zero side of things. And that feels wrong. Particularly so in this context.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Friday, 17 November 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

she may have been 88lbs at the time of her death but i'm pretty sure she wasn't modelling at that weight, anorexics can get weight off quite quick. as for the fashion industry saying she "showed no signs", who is this fashion industry? is that like, one person?

anyway RIP, of course.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 17 November 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

jim - wal-mart does.

― Maria (Maria), Friday, 17 November 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

I read that she stopped getting jobs because she was too skinny!

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 November 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

I want to say that her being model was incidental and whether or not Armani endorses size zero is incidental, and even food and weight are incidental, but I'm not sure if this is true - only if there is another life.

― youn (youn), Friday, 17 November 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

That anacarolina site is for someone else, I think. For http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Carolina_da_Fonseca

(Maria posting without logging out Scott)

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 17 November 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

That makes a hell of a lot more sense.

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 November 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

One of our favorite secrets about Ana is that she loves chocolate. We'll be sure to bring the best chocolate truffles we can find every time we meet Ana!

http://www.discovergirls.com/ana1.htm

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

That's an unfortunate URL if ever I saw one.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

(by which I mean it's totally sfw)

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

That's a different Ana Carolina.

― Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I know.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

very sad.

stoked for the moralizing.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Just for the avoidance of doubt - and because I suppose it might nearly appear otherwise if you squint a bit - I wasn't moralising. Other than to myself, and to the datawow.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

You know, this is sort of like Dale Earnhardt dying on the racetrack. Sad, but not exactly shocking. A hazard of the profession.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

I was talking with someone and it seems her daughter has lapsed. She doesn't even weigh 40 kgs. WHen she described her daughter, it was like she was talking about me. (No, I don't have anorexia.). It was so utterly sad to hear her say:"I realized I could lose my daughter." And then proceeded to blame herself. I told her noone is to blame, it's just a "mix" of elements contributing to the problem.

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 23 October 2009 13:23 (sixteen years ago)

I told her noone is to blame, it's just a "mix" of elements contributing to the problem.

Do you believe this, or did you tell her that to comfort her in her grief?

― WmC, Friday, 23 October 2009 13:38 (sixteen years ago)

do you think the parent is to blame?

― akm, Friday, 23 October 2009 13:52 (sixteen years ago)

I have no idea. But I don't think the parent is never to blame.

― WmC, Friday, 23 October 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

I strongly believe that there are contributing factors, yes. The right "circumstances" *help* in creating an anorexic (or boulemic). Ultimately of course it is the anorexic/boulemic. But the right circumstances help in giving a "push".

I also hate using the word blame. Because it gives a feeling of guilt, but I strongly believe that the family dynamic sort of cultivate the anorexic.(Of course not always, but in many circumstances, yes.)

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 23 October 2009 14:16 (sixteen years ago)

Well, either way, it's the parents who are there to offer support and/or solutions, so regardless of how much it is or isn't their fault, the burden of offering options and knowing when to push and when to pull is definitely on them.

― I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Friday, 23 October 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

Shouldn't the life-or-deathness of your child's life be reason enough to examine ANYTHING in your personal or family life? That should be when you pull out all the stops and are willing to re-make your whole family if necessary. People who aren't willing to do that for their kids...amaze me.

― I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Friday, 23 October 2009 14:32 (sixteen years ago)

That was practically incoherent, but you get me.

― I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Friday, 23 October 2009 14:33 (sixteen years ago)

Oh yes, I definitely understand and she was/is willing to do this. She was so hurt:"Looking back I notice all the things I did wrong." I strongly emphasized she was not to blame.

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 23 October 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

unless what she did wrong was yell "FAT FAT FAT!" 20 hours a day for fourteen years. Then, yeah.

― akm, Friday, 23 October 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)

Oh dude, it isn't (necessarily) about being fat! It's about control (and the loss of feeling thereof). Eating is the thing you can control (if everything else is taken away). It can start with a diet but deep down it isn't so much about that (in many cases, of course in some it is or starts out that way).

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 23 October 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

What I related to was the fact she pushed her daughter. She meant well, but it was counterproductive. I experienced that with my mom: she wanted to push me, but pushed me over the edge. But I'd never say my mom was to blame, never ever.

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 23 October 2009 14:53 (sixteen years ago)

It's a parent's responsibility to give their child(ren) coping skills. If they don't do that, then blame is not too strong a word imho.

― WmC, Friday, 23 October 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

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