Tha Police

Rumpie, quickly reading the police website (http://www.strathclyde.police.uk/index.asp?locID=496&docID=-1 - you haven't moved too far, have you?) you might be able to get stuff under the Freedom of Information Act if it's not relating to an ongoing investigation. There's a whole bunch of stuff on there about how to get hold of information as well.

What I really want to know is if the police were responsible for the breaking down of the door or if it was somebody else.

I'll be less concerned if it was the police.

xpost, to get in?

It's all old people!

i reckon pop in to the police station and ask if you think it will put your mind at rest (personally i think it would freak me out more if that was confirmed), and replace the door with a good one as soon as you can. you've bought the house now, so there's no going back regardless of what happened with the previous tenants/owners

Well done on the house-buying thing, btw!

I'd hate not to be able to hear my t.v over the noise of my door being booted in!

WTF is up with UK police?

I was coming home this morning and myself and a friend were on Kingsland High Street trying to hail a cab. It was pissing rain and so we were leaning out from under a shop's shelter attempting to hail a cab, basically hailing most cars in the hope one was a hackney or whatever.

As we're doing this a cop car comes along and my friend is like "that's a police car" so I stop hailing, but they see me and slow down. I basically just said "sorry guys it's bad visibility I'm just looking for a cab" and thought no more of it.

Five mins later the car stops beside us on our side of the road and two police get out. One of them says nothing but the other says we hailed them "for a laugh" and he saw us laughing afterwards, and we were wasting police time etc etc. When we attempt to politely say "eh sorry actually it's just very wet and we're hailing what we can to get home", he's like "quiet, there'll be a time for you both to speak" and basically searches us top to tail, every card in our wallets, rolls up trouser legs.

All the while any movement or gesture and he's like "don't move your head like that towards me, that's aggressive" or "don't speak out of turn." etc etc.

As soon as he begins the search I tell him I have a xanax in my right jeans pocket which is prescription, when I take it out and give it to him he asks what it's for. I say I've had a history of breathing problems and anxiety attacks and he proceeds to scoff and make fun of this, and is all "so you're blind AND you get anxiety attacks, right mate, good man" etc etc.

They find nothing and he takes our names and addresses and does a background check etc, then leaves. Can't believe the rudeness of it all though. Is this "stop and search" or whatever, police having a right to search you for no fucking reason whatsoever?

fuck sake, that's pretty bad. Police are generally cunts. Was in a mate's car once and got pulled over because police in the car behind us claimed to have lip-read my friend who was sitting in the back seat calling them "fucking pigs". He had done no such thing and even if he had they would have known fuck all about it. When they asked my name they didn't believe me because I have a foreign surname. Racist twats.

Once when I was about 16 I was at a demonstration, walking down a road in Glasgow with my dad. I can't remember what it was for, some left-wing thing. I only went because I was getting a lift in to town from my dad. At one point I was walking quite close to the pavement and was told in no uncertain terms by a pig "keep walking near the pavement and i'll have you".

Was once searched for "looking suspicious" while walking from my house to a friend's house.

Strangely last encounter with the police they were looking for someone with a crowbar and they just asked me and my friend "have you seen anyone with a crowbar?" and then thanked us for our time afterwards. I was shocked by police niceness.

I was shocked by police niceness when one asked if he could throw the ball for my dog in the park!!

You were probably too shocked by their actions LG, but did you get a note of their ID numbers? I'd feel like making a complaint.

I didn't get their id but I noted the time and know the exact area. I just made a complaint online to the IPCC or whatever it's called. I was shocked yeah, you don't think of asking for an ID number. I'm tempted to ring Dalston Police and ask though, surely if they do a background check and take my details I can check a record of that and get the cop's ID number.

The other thing that made me laugh, the second cop was quiet and said almost nothing for the whole duration, he searched my friend and my friend told me he just said at the start "if you stay quiet it'll be over quicker". Like "just don't scream and it'll all be done".

just made formal complaint anyway.

Don't make us tazer you, please.

Do what now?

Epperson’s Auto Repair reported a commercial burglary. Car tools valued at $200 were reported missing. A window valued at $50 was broken. The victim, when he came into work, found a man beside the broken window with a broom. The man said he was there to “clean up a little until you got here.” The man told officers he had gotten drunk the night before and he had decided to sleep in a van down by the river and close to the business. The man then told officers he had seen a black man leaving the building during the night and he had asked the other man what he was carrying. The second man said it was the missing tools and that he had just stolen them from the business. The first man also identified the second man as a part-time employee at the business but didn’t know his name. The business owner said the description did indeed match a part-time employee, but the owner didn’t know the part-time employee’s name either. The officer advised the business owner that he should get his part-time employee’s name and give it to police. The officer also told said that if the employee was to return to work, to notify the police.

Police are generally cunts.

With all due respect they're not.

Met cops are running at 25% nice, 75% schmuck at any given time. I feel weird around them and my uncle was a lieutenant detective.

LG, am glad that you complained. Did they give you any paperwork at all? If you are stopped and searched there should be a sheet with your PC ID on it; if not that strengthens your complaint and at any rate, for proof you can get the record they filed under FOI.

I'd say that percentage is more like 10% nice 90% schmucks in my experience. My first real experience with cops was when my parents' house was broken into, I was around age 12. The cop that came out to file the report was condescending the entire time, questioning every item we listed as stolen as if we were lying about its existence. Thing was it was a quick smash and grab with the thieves obviously running off with little stuff they could shove in pockets - watches, jewelry, etc. Not like we were tossing out a laundry list of missing items. Then the cop, on his way out the door, had the nerve to say to my obviously distressed mother that it was statistically likely they'd be back for the rest.

No Prince Andrew thread, so here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8512279.stm

Prince Andrew 'hit Met officer' with car outside palace

"Police are investigating an incident in which Prince Andrew allegedly struck a police officer while driving into Buckingham Palace."

This BBC news story has a lot of very difficult to imagine/improbably images in it -

Man used penis to assault female police officer

Does any of that seem remotely plausible? possible even?

Apart from "He has never been so drunk before that day"

There was an ILM 'what's on your ipod?' thread for this but I don't think it was discussed outside of that...

Right, best left to die a quiet death then probably. As you were.

question:

are police in the uk not allowed to lie to suspects to get evidence or confessions (if they're to be used in court)?

the police are allowed to do whatever they fucking want whenever they want.

well sure but i'm not asking on that level

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/14/police-survey-half-report-colleauge

Good news everybody! 50 per cent of the police aren't dishonest unethical thugs

http://nypost.com/2014/02/21/cops-hit-my-car-then-arrested-me-to-cover-it-up-suit/

jeez, the police have taken over my house after my neighbor apparently committed suicide using a pistol

the shell casing ended up in a cymbidium pot in my back yard and they're still here securing the chain of evidence until the ME comes. I feel badly for his family