Just refused a purchase of a six-pack of beer, because I have an out of state ID. I'll be 30 in 2 months.

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How did we get to this point? Who decided that this is necessary?

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:34 (nineteen years ago)

you should be flattered

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

It sucks, but the explanation is at least partly the huge fines that liquor retailers have to pay if they are caught selling to someone underage. My parents own liquor stores and the penalties are pretty harsh.

That being said, it's pretty ridiculous. Especially since you had a legitimate ID!

― Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yet another step towards a police state, my friend!

― wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

are you female or male?

my friend and I (28 just like me) were carded for Borat tickets.

― Chesty Joe Morgan (Chesty Joe Morgan), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:50 (nineteen years ago)

you should be flattered

I agree, although it really sucks when you want the beer right-bloody-now! But yeah, many years from now you'll be telling this story with pride.

― shorty (shorty), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:51 (nineteen years ago)

Just refused a purchase of a six-pack of beer, because I have an out of state ID.

this happened to me in arizona last year. they don't accept out-of-state nondriver IDs as acceptable proof of age. they accepted my passport though, and my passport was what i initially used as my "points" to GET the nondriver ID. the ironing, yum.

I'll be 30 in 2 months.

i'll be 30 in... TWO WEEKS

― lsd sky chefs (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

ONE OF US.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm guessing you're not of middle-eastern origin, otherwise you would have been tasered!

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm male.

The shop clerk was pretty unreasonable, but I understand where they're coming from. They're just trying to cover their asses. It was a driver's license BTW. A driver's license with several design elements to prevent fake IDs. And who makes a fake ID that's 9 years past legal?

But really I'm wondering why we have this crazy enforcement policy? How did this come to be?

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 17 November 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

i would guess it's local and state politicians working voter by being tough on crime

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've been refused alcohol when I'm clearly well into my 30s in recent years, but it was because while I had ID, the guy I was with didn't - and although he was about 25, he looked a lot younger and had no ID. So I guess the whole "you'll just buy his" thing kicked in and they said no even though they agreeed I was obviously well over-age.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

voters

xpost

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

hi trayce! (messenger has been broken for me for awhile. are you on aol ever?)
is the drinking age 21 in australia?

― Chesty Joe Morgan (Chesty Joe Morgan), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:31 (nineteen years ago)

america is a nation of puritanical lushes, and our controlled substances laws reflect that reality.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

im drunk

― W i l l (common_person), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

and you vote!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:40 (nineteen years ago)

Alcohol is overrated anyway.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:51 (nineteen years ago)

Super Cub - this is Honolulu, right? Which store? I havent had a problem using my IL ID once in the last 6 months.

― researching ur life (grady), Friday, 17 November 2006 06:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's a little non-chain convenience store on the corner of Pensacola and Wilder (Makiki).

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

Drinking age is 18 here in Australia.

― It's a hard world for little things... (papa november), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

i'm carded every time i shave

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

That sucks. A while back I saw a kid who was no more than 8 years-old buy a six-pack at a convenience store in Japan. It was obviously for an older relative or something, but it was still pretty surreal when viewed from a North American perspective. They legally can't sell to anyone under 18, but he was so young, that it obviously wasn't for himself. Still, I took a picture of the transacton with my phone.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:35 (nineteen years ago)

I just popped out for a smoothie. Its hitting the spot much better than beer could right now. And, no identification was required. I did, however, have to give them my first name.

― researching ur life (grady), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

Did you buy it from Radio Shack?

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 17 November 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

But really I'm wondering why we have this crazy enforcement policy? How did this come to be?

* 1920 to 1933 in the United States
* 1914 to 1925 in Russia (called "sukhoy zakon", also transcribed as "Sukhoi zakon" what translates to "Dry Law")
* 1915 to 1922 in Iceland (though beer was still prohibited until 1989)
* 1916 to 1927 in Norway (wine and beer also included in 1917)
* 1919 to 1932 in Finland (called kieltolaki)
* 1901 to 1948 in Prince Edward Island, and for shorter periods in other locations in Canada

short answer: our species still working out how to deal with serious existential questions posed by intoxicants. check back in a century or two.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 17 November 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

If governments wouldn't take care of what we can and can't buy and consume the whole of society would crumble and succumb to Breezer madness!

http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/images/covers/coverd/60_69/249168.jpg

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 17 November 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm only half kidding, by the way. People are treated like children, so they act like children, so they're treated like children, so they act like, er, you know.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 17 November 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

Alcohol should be illegal. It turns me into an asshole and I'm sure it does the same to many other people.

― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Friday, 17 November 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

This is always a real shock to Brits visiting the US.

"Take your passport to the bar."
"What? Don't be daft, I'm 36!"
"Seriously, if you haven't got your passport, you should go back to the hotel and get it."
"Bollocks, I'll just talk my way in if they make any trouble."
"GO GET YOUR PASSPORT."

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 November 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Take your passport? Bloody 'ell.

― wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I've NEVER been carded but that's probably because I'm over six foot tall.

― wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

It's not because you're an internet legend?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Being over 6' never helped me when I was underage :( Used to get carded plenty, oddly until I turned 18, when as if by magic I stopped getting carded. I guess I must have exuded "I am underage" vibes or something.

I got refused rizlas in America cos I didn't have ID. I was 27. I have managed to talk my way into bars in the US without ID though.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

When I was in my early twenties, I was refused a purchase of cigarettes because the dumb bitch behind the counter thought the "3" in my birthyear was a "9".

i'm carded every time i shave

-- latebloomer (posercore24...), November 17th, 2006 1:18 AM. (latebloomer) (later) (link)

Does someone come out of your bathroom mirror and say, "I'm sorry, I can't let you hold that razor." ?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I was harrased recently at a bar/show because my handstamp was not darkly colored enough and some douche that worked there made me get restamped. I know it's to cover their asses but still.

― Dude That Spends A Confusing Amount Of Time Focusing On A Band He Hates (Mr.Que), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I get carded all the time at the grocery store that I go to all the time. I AM NOT TRYING TO PULL A FAST ONE AND GET AWAY WITH A 6 PACK OF BEER, I'M 34!

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I once was refused entry to somewhere in Minneapolis because a passport was not valid ID. I don't drive or live in Minnesota. I was well over 30 *and* the guy was staying for free long-term at the house of the friend I was with.

Seriously, his arse would have been freezing on the porch after that if it were *my* house.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Does Arizona seriously *require* an in-state ID to buy alcohol? That's outrageous. I've been to places that don't accept passports, but it's usually because they out in the middle of nowhere and the guy checking IDs hasn't ever heard of passports.

― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Friday, 17 November 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

robble

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 17 November 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

And who makes a fake ID that's 9 years past legal?
I think that's your problem.

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 17 November 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

My roommate's license is suspended, he's been using his passport as his primary ID and, in the past month+, has been refused alcohol/access-to-alcohol-serving-establishment no less than 5 times, because the people doing the IDing didn't consider it a valid form of ID! WTF.

― stoked for the madness (nickalicious), Friday, 17 November 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

It's a *passport*, genius. They let me into whole other *countries* with it.

― Pork Cheops (willpie), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

When I went through the TABC (Texas drinky-drink agency) course on selling booze, I don't recall passports being on the list, so they were probably just following orders (and scared of getting a thousand-dollar fine).

In-state drivers license, in-state ID, out-of-state DL, out-of-state ID, and maybe military ID and that was about it. Couldn't be expired, either.

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

hi trayce! (messenger has been broken for me for awhile. are you on aol ever?)

Hey oops! I gave up on AIM cause I didnt like it and there were a couple people on there I didnt wanna talk to... I'm always on MSN though!

― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

Also what do tourists do in these states if DLs are all they'll accept?

― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

america lol

― Rebel.yell.For.Internet.cakes (nordicskilla), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

Obviously Trace these so-called "tourists" should be spending time with extended family or visiting roadside attractions, not thinking they can come to our nice wholesome states and start throwing big drunken parties like they belong here.

Also "tourist" sounds like "terrorist."

― nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

All my plans for drunken American rampage.... gone... gone! ;_;

― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

Super Cub just went to a stupid place for beer.

You can use any US DL in any other US state, as well as a passport or a military ID.

― researching ur life (grady), Sunday, 19 November 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

I gotta admit, anyone who thinks a passport isn't proper ID is broken in the head.

― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 19 November 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

That's what I thought when a clerk at Meijer's didn't want to accept my passport for a bottle of wine, some time ago in small-town Michigan. I got shirty and said, "IT'S A FEDERALLY ISSUED FORM, YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT" and sort of bullied the mousy cashier. I think her manager finally waved me off just to get rid of me (on an otherwise quiet evening when everyone was tired). Good GRIEF.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 19 November 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

I once had a friend who could get into a club with his Sam's Card and DUI papers.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 19 November 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

i'm carded every time i shave
-- latebloomer (posercore24...), November 17th, 2006 1:18 AM. (latebloomer) (later) (link)
Does someone come out of your bathroom mirror and say, "I'm sorry, I can't let you hold that razor." ?

-- Pleasant Plains /// (pleasant.plain...), November 17th, 2006.

i just knew immediately after i posted that someone would make that joke, lol

it's true, though. every time i shave i look about 3 years younger. i have a pretty youthful face. i guess i should be thankful, since my best friend sean looks about 40 and he's 24.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, does this mean I have to live in the United States for 18 months...sober?

Unacceptable!

― wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Sunday, 19 November 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

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