Rolling 2007 librarian/library assistant thread

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Food in the libraries, Java in the catalogs...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

Java client? I am not sure what that means in this case. Nothing has popped up that says that. (Does it show up if you aren't doing cataloging?)

R_S (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

...and all the non-fiction, alphabetically, together. Really, why the heck not? (xpost)

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

oh hooray for ye'old ILX with nu-code!

Are you using SIRSI's Unicorn? It used to be the dull grey, and then got upgraded to look like Microsoft Outlook.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

I saw someone eat a six-inch sub right before the Christmas break on the quiet floor.

I also bitched out a student yapping on her cellphone RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE `QUIET FLOOR - SWITCH CELLPHONES OFF" SIGN. "I'll call you back, Lessie; some rude guy just bitched me out," she said into the phone. "I'M RUDE?!" I yell. She does a raspeberry and boards the elevator.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:39 (eighteen years ago)

We found a bunch of empty pizza boxes on a quiet floor in the library too. Apparently, before I started working here, we had a phantom defecator in the stacks. Gross.

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

Are you using SIRSI's Unicorn?

I feel really idiotic, but even though I use it every day, it's all sort of a blur. I remember "Unicorn," but I think we got an update. Ours freezes up a lot, but apparently we got the budget version.

R_S (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

No no! It's a completely forgettable progam. The icon says for the updated program says "Workflows Java." Freezing up a lot sounds incredibly familiar.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:52 (eighteen years ago)

Ours never freezes up. I wish they'd make it look prettier though. And we have it on two different computers, and the icons are like moved around and shit on each computer so it always takes me longer than it should to check someone's movies out.

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:10 (eighteen years ago)

It's quiet here the day before winter quarter starts. TOO quiet.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

It's quiet here too. I love it!

I have a meeting to go to in a little bit, for a project team that's trying to keep itself from becoming utterly useless. I am going through my notes from the last meeting to see what I need to do (meeting is in 10 minutes -- glad to see my grad school procrastination skills are still in full effect), and all I have written down is: "Office of Dead Initiatives." Way to go, Molly.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of SirsiDynix, it was just bought out by a private company.
Hopefully it will get better, because it can't get any worse.

http://www.coffeecode.net/archives/108-Musing-about-SirsiDynixs-new-investment-partner.html

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, so will this turn everything upside down for half a year like it did when we were forced to switched to SIRSI?

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

My library has been closed for two weeks!

I really don't wanna do another literature search on wound care or obesity, but I know that's what I'll be doing within a couple of days of being back.

Might go through some of the old stock and get some materials for making collages with.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

Hopefully, SIRSI will just stop existing, and then we can all get on board with ALEPH or Innovative.

jel! I'm jealous! We get the bare minimum of time off here. It's teh sux.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

Hopefully, SIRSI will just stop existing, and then we can all get on board with ALEPH or Innovative.

That would be awesome! I don't have high hopes, though.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Me either. I am just going to have to live with the whining of fellow catalogers: "Why is Sirsi so slow? Why is it freezing up?" Ugggghhhh.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

This week's telling sign: me overhearing one of the folks who lead campus tour groups of prospective undergrads:

"This is the Langson Library. If you want Internet access without having to logon to anything, come here..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Moll, I thought academic librarianship was the cushy?

Mary (Mary), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

Academic librarianship is a beast. Cushy? Well, there are some nice perks, but for a lot of folks (not mine, thankfully) the "publish or perish" rule still applies, as does tenure (once again, not my job). I don't belong to a union (major bummer), the salary is okay, but not great. We do get some travel funding and I get to set my own hours (this is just because I'm a cataloger and am hidden from the public). Oh, and a lot of jobs require you to have your 2nd master's already (not mine, however it's in teh works). If I want to move anywhere else to another university, I'll probably need that 2nd master's. Oh, and I know some other librarians at other schools that have to teach classes.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

This is *exactly* why I am content not going to library school. I left grad school in the first place because I saw what my life might be like in academia and frankly hated the prospect, so why sidestep into something similar?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

I lucked out, because "publishing is encouraged, not required." Also, I like what I do. It's totally nerdy, and I'm fine with that. I feel like I've somehow managed to sidestep the whole academic librarianship circus, which is fine by me.

Library school. Ugh. People who tell me they want to get their PhDs in library science scare me sometimes.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

I have a coworker who is getting her PhD. She is exactly like Tracey Flick.

My school is more of a vocational/technical college per se than a university so I don't have to deal with a lot of the academic related issues. Which is fine with me.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

The idea of writing about library science is kind of frightening to me, although I guess there are some collection development type issues I would be interested enough to sink my teeth into. I really don't think it makes much sense to treat academic librarians as faculty, and to give them the same imperative to publish. It seems like a very make-believe requirement. (And if the cost of that is not having tenure, then I think so be it.) I wish I had gone into cataloging.

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

I so miss being a circulation lackey at the univ. library. THOUGH right before I moved they were reorganizing the shelves to make room for a fucking Starfucks. I felt like Jesus when he went all gangbusters in the temple. Jesus god and the devil. The library is the only place sacred to me.

Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 5 January 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

My supervisor had an awesome game where he'd hold a dictionary over our heads and we'd point to a random page. Whoever picked the last word got to sit around on the first floor while the rest went to kick the bums off the other four floors. The bums were kind about it, so it was okay either way. Bums and students. There were students and patrons too.

Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 5 January 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, by last word I meant best word, the word he deemed most interesting or unusual.

Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 5 January 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

Strangely, I really quite enjoyed writing my masters dissertation on bibliographic databases. It did take me ages to get going though. No more education for me! Unless I go to art school or something.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 7 January 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

today, to a 40 something clean cut woman: excuse me madam some children havew cpmplained you are looking at porn on the internet. please stop.

sami J (bulbs), Sunday, 7 January 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

not that i saw the screen. all she had up was CAUTION HOT CHICK PIC when i busted her.

sami J (bulbs), Sunday, 7 January 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

This will warm your librarian hearts:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070107/ap_on_fe_st/overdue_book

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Sunday, 7 January 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

A start.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

$171 seems fairly reasonable! I'd known people in college who couldn't register for classes due to their $500+ university library late fees. F'in academic libraries.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Sunday, 7 January 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

You must excuse me. I find those fines to be utterly appropriate and right. (Working ten years as the billing supervisor for Reserves has hardened my formerly sweet and innocent heart.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

No no, understood! It's funny how your perception changes once you're no longer a student. I never accrued much in the way of library fines (a dollar here, etc.). I was a good egg. What happened to me?

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Sunday, 7 January 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

You tasted the world of the criminal element and were seduced.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

I only meant that I thought that academic lib. was cushy in respect to vacation days, versus public libraries. People told me they got a month's vaca a year . . . ?

Mary (Mary), Monday, 8 January 2007 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

Depends on the position, but yeah, I'm approaching that level these days.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 03:15 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I see! Well, it depends. I've only been working here for 1 1/2, so my vacation days are somewhere around 22 days a year. I'll accrue more, the longer I work here. I guess that's a month, now innit? We don't get off when the students have breaks, however, like some schools do. I'm a 12 month position too, so I have to work over the summer. If you're faculty, you may have the summers off, but I don't know how common those jobs are.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

I think if you count all the holidays I'm well over a month now a year, actually. The UC system has benefits.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Ned, does UC give you tuition benefits?

I was contemplating starting a 2nd master's here, but even with the 70% discount, a grad class is no small chunk of change. I think I'll wait to next year. My brain cannot handle GREs right now.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

Ned, does UC give you tuition benefits?

It does, actually, but I think more on the undergrad level. But now that you mention it I'm sure there could be some sort of deal for grad work, depending on the field.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha we just got a unifed system (NOT sirsi thought we test drove it) and I just thought I'd laugh and comment on how everyone seems to hate it.

Can I ask a really dumb question regarding unified systems: what is the big deal with prediction records for serials? Are unclaimed serials that big a deal? It seems like making prediction records is more trouble than it is worth. Especially for irregular publications. Maybe it's just the system we have. Let me know if I'm being unclear.

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Do you mean a federated library search engine? One that searches your online journals, your library's catalog, and other stuff? Like Primo?

Or just the regular online catalog?

I don't think we make prediction records here. We have a serials librarian (cataloger) who goes in an takes care of that shit. When I'm cataloging book sets, we only catalog what we have, because we may never get that issue of that irregular publication. Does that make sense?

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

Do you mean a federated library search engine? One that searches your online journals, your library's catalog, and other stuff? Like Primo?

Yeah. It's a serials thing, not a book thing. It just seems ridiculously complicated, a big hassle.

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

We're getting a big federated search engine here. It's gonna be a big headache, I'm afraid. It may even let users tag. Joy of joys. (PSSS - I generally hate folksonomies)

It just seems ridiculously complicated, a big hassle.

Welcome to my life as a cataloger!

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

It may even let users tag. Joy of joys. (PSSS - I generally hate folksonomies)

Oh Jesus, that is awful. God help you. Ha, you're a cataloger! You know what they say about catalogers. . .

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

I know. I make a stink about it during staff meetings. I don't think the old'uns get how horrendously useless it can be (hello, last.fm!)

You know what they say about catalogers. . .

We're drunks? Socially awkward? Because that's pretty much spot on.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

No wonder they work in a separate building from me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

actually, all library folks are drunks and socially awkward, right? but catalogers are a special breed. don't get me wrong though--I like catalogers.

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

i, on the other hand, cannot wait to go to grad school because i feel pretty useless otherwise

they've finally ot the A/C working down here and now i am freezing :D

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago)

ggggggggggot

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago)

The list of types of library jobs on the ALA site is pretty unhelpful. It's basically like "public, academic ... uh, school, and ... uh, let's say 'other.'"

n/a, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

When I started, I thought I wanted to be a public librarian. Then, with my background, I thought academic librarianship was for me! Buffalo stupidly wanted to close all its public libraries, which set my pinko heart ablaze, causing me to want to be a public librarian again (but not stay in Buffalo, obv.). I then took an indexing course and decided, "this is for me!".

I'm now a Spanish/Portuguese/French cataloger for an academic library.

Sometimes I wanna say "fuck it" and become a children's librarian instead. But, I console myself with the thought that I'm the non-socially retarded cataloger ambassador for the library world.

Also, I had a friend who was on track for medical librarianship. She's now a school librarian (gasp! i mean, library media specialist) at a private school in SF.

molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

In short, I don't think it matters, really.

molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, and people move around a lot. At my last library, former law librarians were children's librarians, and at my internship former school librarians were academic librarians. You won't really know what you want to do until you try out a few things.

Virginia Plain, Thursday, 1 November 2007 03:20 (seventeen years ago)

this thread is making me more excited at the prospect of being a librarian.

not much has changed in my plans -- still planning on starting an MLS in fall 09. not totally sure where, however.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 1 November 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

There's an insane amount of irrelevancy that goes on in academic libraries, I find.

Yesterday, someone had a freak out moment about something so trivial, I almost started laughing in her face. I maintained my calm and tried to diffuse the situation. Then, at the Halloween party later (OH GOD LIBRARIAN PARTIES ARE SO AWKWARD), I talked to one of the other parties involved, and she was all, "No problem! Thanks."

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

But Mark, don't let my general griping bum you out.

Working in a library can be really great and satisfying, oh, and low-stress.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago)

This is true. Especially if you don't have to worry about catalog development or indexing. :-D

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

Hah! Yeah, but in the grand scheme of things, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. Thousands of people are not going to die. It'll get sorted, dudes! Maybe I've been watching the Big Lebowski to much, but I just want everyone to "relax, man."

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

There are people who freak out about stupid stuff at pretty much every job, I've found.

n/a, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

This freaking out is far more intense and detached from reality, from what I've seen at other jobs.

Don't even get me started on how people spazz about conference authority records. Every bibliographer I've talked to (oh, and I ask, believe you me) says they NEVER search by authorized conference heading. I don't think 98% of the population even know what they are, but it's an integral part of my job.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago)

and by people spazzing, i mean the catalogers i work with.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago)

Catalogers are the WORST. Control freaks, all.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

Dude, I'm totally not! That's the weird thing.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, sorry. I didn't mean you, you're clearly level-headed.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

"OH GOD LIBRARIAN PARTIES ARE SO AWKWARD"

Of course I read that as "LIBERTARIAN PARTIES," and I was inclined to agree.

Dickerson Pike, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

Authoritarian parties, however, are so great.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

No worries. I have stories, though. Oh god. One including someone I work with who has no TV, and is EXTREMELY PROUD of this, and talks about incessantly. And then she forwards everyone clips from the Keith Olbermann show, or the Daily Show, about how it's SO GREAT, and I'm like, "Dude, I saw this last night. Also, stop cackling at your cubicle. It annoys me."

Ok, maybe that's not so much a cataloging thing, but just weird librarian-ish shit.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

Ned, THE WORST.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

I don't watch TV or clips, I'm better than you both! *hides*

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago)

It's not that I have anything against the TV-less! I didn't have a TV for a while! Mainly, I just can't stand loud talkers.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

WHAT YOU SAY

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

Here's an awkward Libertarian party, previewed in this week's Nashville Scene:

ROCK FOR RON PAUL Presidential races are often exclusive events. While Giuliani swirls a glass of fine brandy and convinces Republicans to swallow his stances on abortion and gay marriage, Clinton downplays her support for war with Iran between nibbles of frog legs on toast. Only this time, somebody shat in the foie gras. That somebody is Libertarian Congressman Ron Paul. Paul’s advocates want to return to constitutional principles, stop runaway inflation by reforming our monetary system and dismantle the military-industrial complex. They also want to rock. Enter Rock for Ron Paul, a festival-style benefit independently organized by the base of Paul’s Nashville constituency. Three stages will host 22 different acts whose styles run the gamut from idiosyncratic indie-rockers Knapsack Heroes to the meat-and-potatoes pop of Harrison Hudson. Arrive early to catch the metal screeching of Kreaper, which, like Ron Paul’s monetary policy, is difficult to understand. 6 p.m. at Rcktwn —MARSHALL WEBER

Dickerson Pike, Thursday, 1 November 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago)

KREAPER?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

I mean come ON. I expect that to be the secret rivals of Dethklok, not a real band.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 November 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

HA HA HA. Rcktwn is a Christian Emo nightclub or something.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago)

Also, it's called "Rcktwn". ARE LIBERTARIANS AGAINST VOWELS?

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 1 November 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago)

Tomorrow's my first pre-school visit. Wish me luck. I'm leading off with: "Punk Farm."

Virginia Plain, Friday, 2 November 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago)

Good luck! I know you'll WOW the kids.

Sara R-C, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:23 (seventeen years ago)

Why do otherwise intelligent, moderately computer literate people turn into complete fucking morons when they are faced with an online catalog? I know it's not the most user-friendly, and the AquaBrowser bullshit only serves to confuse, but goddam.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 10 November 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago)

No I'm sorry I can't tell you where all books by author x are, without going into each record individually, but I can assure you that we are not hiding them behind the reference desk as you suspect. Try clicking on things that look like links in the catalog records. Maybe they will take you to more information!

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 10 November 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago)

Today I helped a guy who looked like Alec Baldwin. My branch keeps on giving.

Virginia Plain, Sunday, 11 November 2007 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

We've done been found out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6_dcjR2npU

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/librarians/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

Oh me!

When I had a terrible office job, and watched th UK version of "The Office" the whole thing just made me sad, and even more depressed about my idiot coworkers. I have a feeling this might be the same. ;_;

molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

thanks for withholding my paycheck from me for about two weeks on account of a "budgeting error," b0bst. cuz it's not like i got groceries to buy or bills to pay or anything like that!!! A+++++ GO TEAM

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

dude, that sucks. have you gotten it yet?

molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago)

Best Onion editorial cartoon ever (at least if you're a librarian)!

http://www.theonion.com/content/cartoon/nov-19-2007

Neil S, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 11:56 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Librarians.jpg

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

The Patriot Act can bite me, says Amazon

molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago)

Sometimes there's progress.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago)

So here's a good post, if you ask me.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

ALA midwinter, anyone?

molly mummenschanz, Friday, 4 January 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, time for a new thread, with that subject line!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 January 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Hey! If you're bored or something or want to tell me how smart you are and how dumb I am ... Can some of you librarian types read this
http://thestuffihave.com/blog/?cat=1
.. from the bottom up - sorry, it was posted chronologically, so the first post is at the bottom ...

I'm teaching a class on Monday about social networking tools in libraries - I'd love to run it by some librarians first ....

(I know it's very cursory ... I only have an hour ... And Molly will have something to say about user tagging, wont she? ;-))

Thanks!

dave 2¼, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

(ok -forget the comment about reading from the bottom up - I changed the dates & now it reads from the top ...)

dave 2¼, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

Looks great! I can just tell you that Queens Library has slightly tweaked the "26 Things" Web 2.0 workshop from the Charlotte, NC library. Staff had the opportunity to participate online. Sadly, the extent of my involvement with "social networking" involves mostly kicking kids of Myspace. (We do have an on-line chat forum at Queens, though, that is a great resource. The children's librarians are fairly active on it.

Virginia Plain, Friday, 7 March 2008 03:14 (seventeen years ago)

come next fall, i will be a full-time student either here or here :D

impudent harlot, Friday, 7 March 2008 05:22 (seventeen years ago)

I love you all but the year in this thread is old. ;-)

Rolling 2008 librarian/library assistant thread

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 March 2008 05:27 (seventeen years ago)


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