Rangers sack LeGuen....

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That is the news.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Could you sum it up in a noise?

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

ooo

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

(I apologise for robbing him of a space)

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

MIKE WALKER TO BE NEXT RANGERS MANAGER. BOOK IT.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Barry Ferguson to be next Rangers manager

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

i'd forgotten all about Mike Walker

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

I'm tipping Bruce Rioch.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Pure comedy. Mad Vlad must be lapping this up. When will the Daily Record start using "Mad Murray"? I won't hold my breath.

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

he'll never get back up again, the turtlesque pillock (xpost)

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

It'll be Jimmy Calderwood or someone, probably. Someone who "understands" Scottish football, unlike Le Guen.

(this has been the excuse from the media all season, that Le Guen just doesn't understand Scottish football)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Pope Benedict?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Les Reed

― Mickey Neuman Snr (Ferg), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Get Alex McLeish back.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Bug Jum Jeffries for teh win.

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, Ian Durrant is in temporary charge.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Dr Jozef Vengloš

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

"Agent Le Guen, return to base. Mission accomplished!"
http://timesunion.com/specialreports/pope/graphics/benedict.jpg

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

WIN

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

hysterics

― Mickey Neuman Snr (Ferg), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.gosh.org/get_involved/your_school/kids/images/hall_of_fame.gif

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

lol@playerpower

lol@alexrae

― -- (688), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

They're go for John Hughes surely, and try to nab Stokes into the bargain.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

again why is 'hall of fame' written on a wooden signpost? i'm sick of this unholistic approach.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Billy Davies, innit. Rangers man, and all that. Craig Levein, maybe?

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

But seriously, Barry Ferguson rules Rangers, so go on, let him do it properly.

(so I can sit back and laugh)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

lol@alexrae

Not Alex Rae, GAVIN Rae. Alex Rae currently clogging his way up the First Division as Dundee player/manager.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

oopsie, how did i type that. maybe danny beckham will come in, first sensational management role

― \ (688), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

DJ MARTIAN.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

Ally C00k

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure if DJ Martian is the next Rangers boss they will score plenty of GOALs.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Ally's the only Rangers fan on ILX, isn't he? I really want DJ Martian as the new Rangers boss now, Matt, you evil genius bastard.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

A bit of systems thinking never did any club any harm.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

I think he was sacked because, several months into his contract, he was still pronouncing it RAHngers.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

'Ron-zyurs' shirley

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

If you like, but surely someone must have told him how to say the name of the team.

I personally rather wished he'd been given the chance to tough it out against Ferguson, if only because it was such an intriguing story.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

Oh noes, he has an accent! Sack him!

He was never going to get to tough it out against Ferguson. The way Le Guen was talking last week, I think he knew he was going. The press were reporting it oddly too - usually it would be "Barry Ferguson has played his last game for Rangers", what they were actually saying was "Barry Ferguson has played his last game for Rangers under Paul Le Guen", which would indicate a belief that Le Guen would go before Ferguson did.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Indeed, Ailsa, and I thought it was strange Le Guen called his own position precarious a couple of days ago.

I was only kidding about sacking him for having the wrong accent, by the way. I just wanted to introduce the fact that I was entertained by his pronunciation.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Well, the Scottish press have their heads up so much up *SIR* David Murray's backside that he must have seen it coming. He's not an idiot.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, when did that happen? The 'sir', I mean.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

New Years Honours.

Current favourites to replace Pepe Le Pew are Walter Smith (yeah, because Scotland don't have any big games coming up) and Terry Butcher.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Sky keep mentioning Souness. that would be loltastic.

― zappi (joni), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

"Super" Ally "Coisty" McCoist as low as 3/1 with some bookies.

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

That means he won't be able to, er, do whatever it he does with Scotland.

Can you train a football team with Sue Barker up your arse?

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Bah.

"Wallie" Walter "Wattie" "Smudge" Smith odd ons with SkyBet and BlueSq. Coral have stopped taking bets on him.

Poor Scotland :(

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

Smith, McCoist and possibly McCall in a "Dream Team" apparently.

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds like the Barnes/Dalglish Dream Team fiasco of yesteryear. Let it be so.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Barry Ferguson now runs Rangers so it's up to him to appoint the right manager who will do things his way or this will all happen again within six months.

Would Walter walk out on Scotland?
I suppose we might see a "fall out" with bosses being engineered in the coming days" with the headlines "SFA idiots fail to offer Smith new contract" and now he takes the huff and the Rangers job.
So the press get what they want and a go at the SFA as usual.

Jim Farry for Rangers boss I say!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

"C´est horrible!"

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42414000/jpg/_42414153_rangers_split203.jpg

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

My Rangers supporting mate backs Le Guens sacking and reckons Ferguson has been the best player this season(and he used to say Ferguson was overrated). Seems to think it will be Jimmy Calderwood as boss.

I can't see Ally McCoist as manager somehow.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

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Word on the street is that Bazza's going to become a transfer kitty. Everton and Villa and someone else I can't remember are allegedly willing to pay (coincidentally) round about what Hibs want for the two upstarts.

― onimo (onimo), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Rangers last 4 games: loss, draw, win, loss - guess which one Bazza missed...

― onimo (onimo), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, guess also which one Le Guen got sacked straight after...

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not having a go at the SFA at all. I just think they will conveniently get the blame instead of that judas bastard smith :)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I can't see him getting what he needs to turn Rangers around either so everyone loses,

I can't see Rangers being anywhere near as bad next season. I'd say it's impossible for them to be any worse next season than they are just now.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

I can't see Rangers being anywhere near as bad next season. I'd say it's impossible for them to be any worse next season than they are just now.

People said that last season. Lest we forget, as Mad Murray reminded us countless times in defending Polly, 15 out 22 "top" "pundits" tipped Rangers for the title this season.

― onimo (onimo), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry that should have been 18/21 fuckwits.

― onimo (onimo), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

But why? What makes you think that? The SFA aren't the sacrificial scapegoats of yore, and they haven't done anything wrong. Have I missed something where the SFA are even remotely to blame for this, or could even be seen as such?

(btw, other point made on Off The Ball was the pillorying of David Taylor, the heid yin at the SFA, for his appointment of previously-respected-throughout-Europe-soon-to-be-laughing-stock Berti Vogts. As opposed to the pillorying of David Murray, the heid yin at the Rangers, for his appointment of previously-respected-throughout-Europe-soon-to-be-laughing-stock Paul Le Guen.)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

Also, why is anyone going to get blamed for anything? Are we assuming Scotland can't win a game without Walter Smith in charge? New dude takes us through the next two games, who gives a toss what Wattie's doing?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

If the media pillory David Murray he will ban them from exclusives from anyone at the club and they lose readers.
I'm sure he's threatened that before.

Mad Vlad must be pissed off no one gives a fuck if he pulls that stunt.
Apart from Vlad himself who loves being in the papers.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

But what if new manager is a numpty?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

If the media pillory David Murray...

*dies laughing*

What if Walter stays and Scotland get fucked off Georgia?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

i really don't understand why Smith find managing Rangers more appealing than the national team given their current position - apart from more money obv. But did he only take the job just to bide time until he could return to Rangers?

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

If Rangers don't finish 2nd this season then they're in for more of the same next season. 2yrs without access to the CL money is a disaster for them. Sir Minty is already looking for a way out and wont be sticking his cloven hoof in his pocket to fund a revival down at Snake Mountain. It's already been mooted that their turnover this year will be around half of what the good guys' will be.

Funny that the press had stated that The Cardigan was locked in talks with Minty hours after PLG walked away despite no "official" approch to the SFA until the weekend = TAPPING UP

― JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

*dies laughing*

Indeed. I explained why it wont ever happen.

What if Walter stays and Scotland get fucked off Georgia?

He's not staying though.
And if that did happen people would blame it on his heart not being there etc and it was wrong to stop him joining his beloved Rangers.

If he wasn't allowed to be Rangers manager I wonder if any Rangers players would ever be available for Scotland again.
And would any Scotland manager have the balls to enforce the 5 day rule.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

Rangers have been talking to Smith since 3 weeks ago when Le Guen offered to resign (hence Webster signing despite there being no manager there to sign him).

xpost

― onimo (onimo), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

x-post to steve
Scotland national team unfortunately comes second to club teams for many fans and players up here, if someone sneezes they're out of the squad (unless its finals). So no surprise with a manager.
Remember pretty much no one wanted that job. That's why Smith has been so good because he DID want it and he has done brilliantly so far.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

Smith going back to Rangers should never even have been on the cards. As I mentioned upthread, the general consensus was that he'd outstayed his welcome the first time round - he was up against a shockingly poor Celtic for a lot of the time and was found out as soon as Wim Jansen showed up on the scene, coinciding with Celtic finally getting some stability about them after years flapping in the wilderness. In fact, he'd probably have been found out the year before had it not been for some outstanding performances from Andy Goram ~~and the masses ranks of Scottish referees~~.

He's going back for money. Simple as.

(xxxpost to Stevem)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

He's not staying though.

Duh, you think? I was countering your foundation-free example with another one. Which is not a terribly sophisticated way of arguing, I know. Sorry.

Remember pretty much no one wanted that job.

Was anyone offered it except Smith? I know others were in consideration, were any of them in a position to say "no thanks"?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 8 January 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

I seem to recall that WGS was very closely linked with the job, but came out in the press saying that it wasn't for him at that point. Whether or not he'd spoken to the SFA is unknown.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/6243207.stm

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

Blugh. This was obviously coming, which now begs a very pertinent question:

Who next for Scotland? Craig Levein, Billy Davies, Davie Moyes, Strachan? Who else is likely to be linked? I'd like Moyes, but I don't really foresee it (lure of the Premiership and that, innit?). Strachan would be an excellent appointment too. IN A FEW YEARS WHEN HE'S READY FOR THE POST.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

Craig Brown says he would be happy to do it.
Big Eck will probably get it.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

to be fair to walter it's not just about the money, it's about the RIDIC VANITY OF A PATHETIC OLD MAN!!

(haha erm ive no reason to care i suppose, but it is super lame to watch all the same)

― tsk. (mwah), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

:o. Has the whole world gone topsy-turvy?

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

'big eck' would be mcleish right?

― tsk. (mwah), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

Indeedy doodly. He might not be a bad shout either, but he doesn't fill me with enthusiasm either.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

Scotsvo I already linked that.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, foolish me. I assumed you had linked to this.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 8 January 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like Moyes, but I don't really foresee it (lure of the Premiership and that, innit?).

I think Everton might pay Moyes a tad more than the £5k a week Walter Smith is reportedly on.

― onimo (onimo), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 00:18 (eighteen years ago)

Aye, for sure. But what price the GLORY?!

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 00:22 (eighteen years ago)

In case anybody asks you to define hypocrisy anytime soon:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/6204818.stm

― frankiemachine (frankiemachine), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:hmGEUg_ekKGeTM:http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oliphant/oa048.jpg

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

Hately & Gazza?

― onimo (onimo), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://i16.tinypic.com/2j2fdra.jpg

― onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Surprise of the week.

The Scottish Football Association will now take legal action against him "for breach of contract" and against Rangers "for inducement to break the contract".

I hope they take him and Murray for everything they've got.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

everything they've got

-£24M?

― onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

This is a good'n. At the time of this call Smith was still SCotland manager so how the fuck can he be phoning Celtic coaches to offer them Rangers jobs?

― onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

Because he's a cunt?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like Moyes, but I don't really foresee it (lure of the Premiership and that, innit?).

Walter Smith for Rangers, ergo Craig Brown for Scotland? Stop giggling at the back there...

― Tom D. (Dada), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

Smith also Bazza's doctor pal at Rangers before becoming manager - he apparently ordered champagne to celebrate PLG being punted. Is this the guy who ruled Bazza out of so many tricky Scotland fixtures?

Some internets rumours say that McGuiness was giving players sickies from training when they turned up with hangovers. I won't mention players' names as Kris Boyd is already considering legal action against PLG for comments made about the Ibrox "drinking culture".

― onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

*Smith also sacked

― onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

Aye, see when I said "Smith won't be sued", that's before I thought things through. Don't know what his contract is, but surely all he's guilty of is not working his notice. I can't believe he has a contract which doesn't allow him to quit.

Craig Brown is touting himself but no-one is agreeing, AFAIK. It's going to be Alex McLeish, I imagine.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

Fuck both of them.

SMITH YOU JUDAS BASTARD.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

See you in court.

"If you're saying that there's only one person who can manage the team and that's me then you've got a problem," he said.

Smith handily points out David Murray has a problem.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

Wattie gets a free shovel with his new job.

New Rangers manager Walter Smith claims he would still be in charge of Scotland if he had been offered a contract extension by the Scottish FA.

"I was asked if I wanted to enter into discussions about a new contract.

"I said I was happy with the situation the way it was, but that did not stop them from offering me one.

"If they had chosen to offer me an extended contract and I had signed it then I would not be leaving now. It's as simple as that.

"If I had signed an extension then I couldn't have walked out. In my eyes, that would have been wrong."

Smith believes that, instead of threatening court action, the SFA and president John McBeth should be grateful to him for easing the pressure on them after the often chaotic Berti Vogts era.

Right. So they offered you the opportunity to discuss a contract extension, and you turned it down, so it's their fault for not forcing you to renegotiate? Prick.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

Judas Bastard!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

Some internets rumours say that McGuiness was giving players sickies from training when they turned up with hangovers.

That rumour was mentioned in the SoS thing I linked to upthread.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Oh aye, well spotted :)

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6253337.stm

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 12 January 2007 00:12 (eighteen years ago)

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