Do your christmas presents make you feel guilty?

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I feel kind of like taking them back or selling them to pay off debt.

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Latham Green (mike), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

OTM

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

OTM

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

no. nobody wants my "funky llama butt hair" yarn (as my boyfriend calls it.)

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

I would love to live in a world where I could sell back these DVDs of "The Artist and the Shaman" and "What the Bleep Do We Know" and the original "Little Shop of Horrors" to pay off debt. Also the iPod "speaker connector" that doesn't work, these CDs of Rosemary Clooney christmas songs and Woody Guthrie Hannukah songs, and the clothes that don't fit.

fuckin Xmas.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Some presents you must have there, Latham Green!

I don't think I'd receive any dough worth mentioning for my one cd, one pocket knife and one jar of honey (=teh sweet presents o'mine), let alone the chocolate that was eaten and declenched sometime round December 28th...

tiit (tiit), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Ans: No, but I returned a couple that needed exchanging and then didn't exchange them for anything because I felt like I had a lovely holiday and was well provided for and it was all too presumptious.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

LOL

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of hate getting presents and then I hate even more feeling like an ungrateful bastard for hating presents. No, I don't even hate presents -- one once in a while is nice, I just hate orgies of giving and getting. I'm especially sick of them now because Hannukah came on the heels of my wedding. I have enough useless ceramic and crystal items to hold a bad suburban art fair.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone in my family agreed to stop giving presents years ago and it's made the holidays much more bearable.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

As a teen-aged lass my fave thing to do was take back all the books I got for xmast and exchange them for ones I wanted. That explains why I have all the Calvin & Hobbes collections.

Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

I do not receive presents well.

I'm trying to rid my possessions of crap, not take more in.

Everyone thinks I'm crazy, but I don't need to see my parents having to wheelbarrow my things into the house.

I also don't need my dad calling me up, going HAS SHE LISTENED TO THE RAY STEVENS CD YET? YOU LET HER ENJOY IT, OKAY?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

Even good gifts get a bit irritating when it comes to weddings - as nice as it is to have two different sizes of Calphalon omlette pans, I feel a little silly with them in my falling-apart, slanted-floor kitchen. Not to mention I can never EVER move to a smaller place now without getting rid of many items.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

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roc u like a § (ex machina), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

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roc u like a § (ex machina), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, a couple of years ago I probably returned between two-thirds and three-quarters of all my presents, mostly because they were just totally unnecessary crap that wasn't "me" at all. But it hurt my mother's feelings; she didn't fuss at the time but she has referred to it several times as the year she got everything "wrong" so I know she felt bad. ;__;

This year I both gave and received lovely, useful things that were carefully chosen. I just thought, by the end, that I had enough stuff and so returned a couple of things that I didn't really want anyway.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

My wife and I gave to Heiffer International instead of buying each other presents this year, and I think we're going to keep doing that.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

By "returned", I mean, gave the money back to the purchaser. In this case, my mom, who can certainly use it to clothe and feed the rest of her household.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

I felt kind of guilty taking a watch back to M&S to exchange it for the one I'd actually asked for, until I realised the one I wanted cost £5 more, and I had to pay it myself! Tsch.

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

I just wish someone would take me out to luch every day. Selfish selfish selfih.

Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

Even good gifts get a bit irritating when it comes to weddings

Did you register? If so, you asked for what you received.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, no, we did a wedding gift registry and still ended up with a stack of towels and duvet covers that didn't go with anything else in the house, and about 9 million vases (which are all really nice, actually, and duvets covers can be dyed and towels used for holidays/the gym). You can have a registry, people will still buy you what they want to give you.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

Same here. Also, if you DON'T register it can be even worse.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

Which is why we did. I didn't even really want gifts, but people were going to give us stuff anyway, so we figured we might as well get stuff we wanted and/or needed.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:52 (eighteen years ago)

Pretty much everything I didn't pick out myself was purchased at a church thrift shop, so I don't feel bad if donate anything I don't want.

The birthday and Christmas presents I got this year from work were really good!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

My wife and I gave to Heiffer International instead of buying each other presents this year

God, I wish I could get my wife to go for this, but she would want to donate as well as buy presents, instead of donating in lieu of presents. I just got the statement for the credit card she used this year on mail order stuff...she told her brother "oh yeah, we didn't spend as much this year." Right, right...

Fuck retail therapy.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Friday, 5 January 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

My father always gets me either a nose hair trimmer or one of those selections of little bottles of cologne. He means well. This year, I only got the latter and I have yet to return it. It's sitting in my car right now.

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 5 January 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

maybe your dad's trying to tell you something

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 January 2007 00:07 (eighteen years ago)

My husband bought me a pair of pyjamas which were like about four sizes too small. He thought I'd be offended if he bought what he thought were the right size and they turned out to be way too big, or else I'd be flattered that he thinks of me as really thin. I'm just miffed I'll have to and stand in a queue to take them back :-/

(they're really cosy-looking, though)

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

If I ever get married I'm registering at Target.

Mary (Mary), Friday, 5 January 2007 00:56 (eighteen years ago)

I compromised - some brought back, some kept. Ipod shuffle kept and titilating greatly.

Latham Green (mike), Friday, 5 January 2007 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

I bought my mother a digital camera. She called me, weeping, saying that the camera was giving her headaches, causing blurry vision, etc.
"I can't understand it!"
Whoa.
next year she's getting a Dalek.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:31 (eighteen years ago)

maybe your dad's trying to tell you something

Gee, why didn't I think of that? He is really just very unimaginative and prefers to do all of his shopping at Macy's.

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)

If I ever get married I'm registering at Target.

I put up batteries and she put up roller skates. We still got 144 wine glasses even neither of us drink wine.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:50 (eighteen years ago)

(+ though)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:50 (eighteen years ago)

fuck no, I need the speakers I got. the gift cards will also be put to good use. the food and cash is already spoken for.

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:59 (eighteen years ago)

My father-in-law had an ingenious idea to set up a fake registry website that actually feeds the money from all "purchases" directly into the couple's paypal account

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 5 January 2007 04:20 (eighteen years ago)

There are even some very nice gifts that I STILL don't know what the hell to do with - a beautiful handmade sake set that's too tall to even fit in our cabinets (and I don't drink sake very often), a tagine, etc.

To be fair, I AM happy to have some decent pots and pans and a matching set of stoneware (we got heavy duty stuff that's really hard to break).

Part of the guilt of it all also came from all the shipping materials that were used in the process - I was sickened by the quantities of foam packing peanuts and bubble wrap we were discarding every week.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 5 January 2007 04:35 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, why did you have a big wedding if you didn't want any presents?

Mary (Mary), Friday, 5 January 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)

Wait a sec, you might easily want to have lots of friends and family present for your wedding and subsequent awesome party without necessarily wanting each of them to BUY YOU something.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:08 (eighteen years ago)

once again, a very nice thread for re-gifting/secret santa.
I want the super tall sake set.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:09 (eighteen years ago)

I don't want to go overboard complaining about people giving me lots of stuff for free here -- some of it is good and I'm not exactly losing sleep over the stuff that isn't. I just get a little grossed out by the consumption frenzy sometimes.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:19 (eighteen years ago)

You may not want them to buy you something, but unless you intruct the guests to put their money to a donation of your choice, it's pretty obvious that you're gonna get a ton of presents.

I just think it's in bad taste to complain about gifts that you received from throwing a party that practically has receiving gifts written into it. I mean, if I had a birthday party, I wouldn't complain about all the useless gifts I got.

x-post

Mary (Mary), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:20 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it's in bad taste, I agree. But that's why I'm anonymously complaining to virtual strangers.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:22 (eighteen years ago)

My mother, aunt, and grandmother all live within three blocks of each other and have for over thirty years. Seeing each other all the time has, for better or worse, led to some very practical if not necessarily romantic guidelines for Christmas gift giving.

Everyone in the families submits a registry of sorts in early October - this exchanging of lists was, at one point, celebrated with a sloppy joe dinner - and these lists are passed around so you can buy stuff for people. It's pretty mercenary, and kind of shocked my wife when she was first exposed to it, but it works pretty well. Since these three all live so close to each other, I think they got tired of having to awkwardly return things that they didn't like or explain why they weren't wearing or using certain items so this pretty much solves the problem.

That being said, I sometimes do feel guilty about stuff. My inlaws in particular are big into giving cards with money, more than I feel is necessary. My parents have sort of mellowed out but my mom is still super geeked about buying people shit for Christmas.

And wedding registries are key - people buy you shit anyway, might as well steer them in the right direction. We still ended up with a bunch of old lady crystal candy dishes and stuff like that.

joygoat (joygoat), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:34 (eighteen years ago)

We do that "Christmas Registry" thing too, between close family. I desktop an amusing "Letter To Santa' template and print them off for people to fill in, and then they're passed around for people to cross off what they want to buy. I don't think it's mercenary at all - people don't get given everything off their lists by any means, but it's nice to know that whatever you do choose is something they do actually want.

C J (C J), Friday, 5 January 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

I've started telling people what I want for Christmas when they ask me now instead of saying "anything!" or "nothing!" or "surprise me!".

So now I get only things I need, generally perfumes I know I like, pyjamas and underwear. I have learnt that people tend to appreciate having a list of things to choose from rather than the headache of trudging round the shops hoping to find something that I might like.

Christmas is fun again!

Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Friday, 5 January 2007 09:59 (eighteen years ago)

I just get a little grossed out by the consumption frenzy sometimes.

I was very lucky the first time I got married, because I genuinely didn't have a house full of stuff already from living together for years, and one of our friends organized a group gift of an excellent dinner service, which I still have every bit of, almost ten years later (no longer have the husband it came with, though).

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 5 January 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

I like Christmas! I like presents!

I feel guilty buying a sandwich now, it's like 31,000 food miles according to the news the other day :(

jel -- (jel), Friday, 5 January 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

It's all relative, I think. I've felt bad in the past because I felt really, really wealthy and thought I should donate all my money out of white liberal guilt. Now I have rich and even not-so-rich friends getting computers and ipods and $150 sweaters, so considering that my gifts were mostly books and candy, I don't feel so ridiculously and unfairly rich anymore (even though on a more global scale, I definitely am), and I also don't have a lot of useless crap lying around.

Maria (Maria), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

our friends organized a group gift of an excellent dinner service, which I still have every bit of, almost ten years later (no longer have the husband it came with, though).

haha, me too!

Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, we didn't live together, so I was very grateful for crockery and cutlery and pans and a hoover and an iron and all that shit. Mary, I don't get your problem at all. I am the most anti-buying-presents-for-the-sake-of-buying-presents person in the world (see every Christmas thread ever), but within about a week of getting engaged we were getting inundated with presents. I figured, as I said above, if people were going to get us stuff anyway, it might as well be stuff we needed.

We never actually announced where our gift-lists were, it wasn't like "please come to our wedding and by the way, we want stuff from Markies or Argos". It's such a standard practice that people asked us/our parents anyway and they were duly pointed at the appropriate shops. Not one person was invited with the aim of getting us a present, several people probably didn't get us anything. I don't care, I had lots of people there that I wanted, and whether they got us a gift was incidental. It was fairly obvious lots of people were going to buy us stuff, it's what people do. We needed stuff. We'd have got it anyway, ourselves, but I'd rather not have a house full of unmatching, useless or duplicated stuff. Or spent the first week of my married life standing in shops returning things.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

With all due respect to Mary, I think it's something that's hard to understand until you go through the wedding process. My wife and I started out very much saying "we don't want lots of stuff, just a few things and some seed money is fine," but there's no way to make it work that way. Too many people insist on picking out a "special gift" whether or not you register, and there's also pressure from family and friends to put lots of stuff on the registry itself (seriously, we had relatives calling CONSTANTLY about how come we hadn't registered yet, or why hadn't we put more things on the registry, etc.) I REALLY don't want to make too big a deal out of it (especially since this is a Christmas presents thread), I'm just saying - when it comes to weddings there are only so many things you can have your way on.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 6 January 2007 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

When it comes to big weddings, for sure. I agree though. For wedding number two, me and Mister Monkey and my parents ran away to Canada and got married, and somehow I still ended up with ugly towels.

I love getting presents. In November and December we have a kind of embargo in our family on buying things for ourselves. If you see something in the shops that you want, you can't buy it. You have to write it on your list. If you don't get it for Christmas, you can buy it afterwards if you still want it.

Idyllic as this sounds, and it usually works quite well, I still have seven pairs of pyjamas I don't wear, and an assortment of ridiculous mugs that came wrapped in plastic with undrinkable cappuccino/hot chocolate sachets in them, and that don't last very well in the dishwasher. I think I might just take these things to the charity shop immediately in future.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 6 January 2007 08:04 (eighteen years ago)

People believe it's their social obligation to bring you something! Actually I believe you're supposed to send SOME gift just for being invited to the wedding, even if you can't make it. Which is mental today. Anyway, if they think that, then yes, you have to have lots of items on the registry, and lots of not-too-expensive ones, because some people won't have $90 to spend on that modernist hand-stenciled lampshade made from vintage deadstock inks or what the hell ever. I think you can end up registering for lots of paring knives and cutting boards and bathroom trash cans because they're in the right price range, whether you need 'em or not!

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 January 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

I am one of those annoying people who will try and buy you something that's not on the register, though. I just don't normally buy presents like a single cup and saucer, and I feel weird and impersonal buying one for your wedding. I am more likely to give you a present of a notebook covered in pictures I have of you. Or money.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 6 January 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

I would not be happy with a notebook covered in pictures of me. I'd be suspicious that you just bought it cos you wanted it yourself.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Saturday, 6 January 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Wedding gifts - so soon in the trash or left to rot.

Latham Green (mike), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

I think the better you know someone, the more ok it is to get them some kind of "unusual" "personal" gift. A few close friends who really knew our style and taste got us very nice unexpected gifts.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, close friends can buy you stuff you'll like because they know your taste and have probably been in your home. The registry is an attempt to offer guidance to your future father-in-law's business partner who you've never met and will never see again and those random relatives you see once every couple of years.

joygoat (joygoat), Friday, 12 January 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

Our house is so small and full of records and boxes of books and we are so disorganized/messy that I haven't been able to figure out where to simply put the things we got. My stepmom got a goat or something in our name from Heiffer Int'l and I greatly appreciated it. Nearly all the gifts I gave came from thrift shops; soon most of the new gifts I received will find their way to a thrift shop. I'm feeling very encumbered by things. Next year I want to stipulate a size limit (unless we've built a new, bigger house by then, in which case bring on the gifts (and the guilt about the have-nots)).

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 12 January 2007 05:48 (eighteen years ago)


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