Taking Sides: English vs Irish vs Scottish vs Welsh

This the most patriotic I'll get. The fact that you didn't even know we had a language surely makes ours all the better.

I am (i) and (iii) but know more words in (iv) than (iii). To (ii) I go not. Though actually I had a fab holiday on the West Coast when I was 13, gazing out ovah the mutinous Shannon waves...

OK

Graeme McDowell.

The internet can't help me here, after a rudimentary check.

Who gets him? (apart from NI, obviously, and ffs they don't count on their own, that's essentially a casting vote)

UK?

i just googled and found this:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0622/1224273029472.html

“Graeme is a Portrush man and in terms of golf, he is Irish. He is with the Irish professional golf team – it’s the same as the rugby.”

yeah why is this some kind of a thing?

heh obviously he's UK, but what I want to know is if he's ours or not

xp we'll take all the world class sport strs we can get tbh

fuck it, if he shifts a bit of that belly we'd even have him ahead of paul mcshane at RB for the euros

He's an Irish UK Citizen of Europe. We can all bask in his reflected glory.

oh i see what's happening here. stockport taxi drivers won't take a fiver from derry, but our golfers are fair game. REVOLUTION!!!

"Graeme McDowell" rangers - About 82,000 results (0.57 seconds)
"Graeme McDowell" celtic - About 74,600 results (0.22 seconds)

inconclusive

dunno if this dude's world class but he's def irish by the looks of things

altho the spelling 'graeme' does make me think of totally unambiguously english cricketer graeme hick

"Graeme McDowell" hun - About 154,000 results (0.26 seconds)
"Graeme McDowell" tim - About 158,000 results (0.30 seconds)

inseparable

dude is obv very careful about managing his google hits, he's to be commended in trying no to make this an issue imo

"Graeme McDowell" british - About 1,090,000 results (0.15 seconds)
"Graeme McDowell" irish - About 921,000 results (0.39 seconds)

ouch

graeme mcdowell potato farls
Advanced searchAbout 8,680 results (0.45 seconds)

graeme mcdowell fried soda bread
About 77,800,000 results (0.39 seconds)

OK, that proves he's actually pure ulster and efforts to ally him either way aren't gonna work out.

"Graeme McDowell" walkers - About 40,000 results (0.28 seconds)
"Graeme McDowell" tayto - About 55 results (0.20 seconds)

Sorry dude

You need to use the quote marks to narrow it down

Your search - "graeme mcdowell" "potato farls" - did not match any documents.
Your search - "graeme mcdowell" "fried soda bread" - did not match any documents.
Your search - "graeme mcdowell" "full english breakfast" - About 46 results (0.40 seconds)

xp yeah that's damning.

wouldn't swap ye for mcilroy anyway so there

this is all that anyone on ilx has been doing for 7 mins according to my SNA page

Google knows what we really want to ask

http://i45.tinypic.com/qoj2u1.jpg

altho the spelling 'graeme' does make me think of totally unambiguously english cricketer graeme hick

Graeme Souness. And, er, my brother. There you go. Totally Celtic (with a hard c before Souness comes round and breaks my legs)

http://www.irishcentral.com/story/sport/sean_oshea/is-us-open-champ-graeme-mcdowell-irish-or-british-96818639.html

balding larkhall hun snooker player graeme dott as well.

so that's cleared it up: not particularly irish but happy enough to be labeled as such; so claim away irish people.

not particularly irish

Yes he is, he was born in Ireland.

"He's an Irish UK Citizen of Europe. We can all bask in his reflected glory."
^^^me otm basically

nah we don't want him now, him and his walkers ffs

"Irish UK Citizen of Europe"

eh?

do kinda wonder who had the original idea to invite graeme souness onto rte

i think ur by definition a "citizen of europe" if ur a citizen of ireland OR a subject of the british crown

He's Irish - born on the island of Ireland
He's a UK citizen - being from Northern Ireland and holding a UK passport
Ireland and UK are both in Europe
He has represented Ireland, The United Kingdom and Europe in various team golf tournaments

not hard really

xp

he's married to an irishwoman, prob in the area the whole time.

anyway, he's p good.

ok Irish "UK Citizen" of Europe

mcdowell is everyman, it's porbably a marketing ploy the dirty wee bowler hat wearing marching pig stealing guinness slurping drunk

but he loves the craic too

i find calling people irish because they were born on the island called ireland a bit suspect considering some of the people born on the island of ireland would chin you if you called them irish.

^ try saying that quickly

Ian Paisley calls himself Irish.

He's a UK citizen - being from Northern Ireland and holding a UK passport

"british" imo

well he's legally entitled to be 'british' and 'irish' both if he wants, hence the tayto test

Yes, in terms of citizenship and official nationality he is British. He was also born in Ireland (not the Republic of Ireland) - that makes him Irish - geographically, not politically.

xp

He was also born in Ireland (not the Republic of Ireland) - that makes him Irish - geographically, not politically.

he was born in the UK

geographically

there's nothing for it, he'll have to come out and declare after this

fried soda bread is all wrong btw

add 1 soft fried egg, 1 rasher and i respectfully disagree

but we have had at least 5 threads on that

can't someone be both irish and british if they so desire? not just legally but sentimentally too

The big chunk of land containing the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland is Ireland. Every Northern Irish (there's a clue in the "Irish" bit of "Northern Irish") person I know describes themselves as Irish - most of them also describe themselves as British.

onimotm, and even a lot of the norn-irish i know who v much identify as 'irish' wouldn't necessarily wish for that to be at the expense of the 'norn' part.

really they should rename the province 'british ireland'

think my northern irish friend self-describes as 'northern irish' but not 100% sure

im half-manx so fuck yall EU lamers really

history maynx

not much more tiresome than the rejoinders to "the brits are at it again" meme in the comments about "its the tories" or "the etonians" or w/e

i. its an irish thing ye shouldnt really be reading it but ye certainly don't "get it" (the brits dont get it again nest pas)

ii. if ye dont like it, leave.

is this on here or just in general? anyway, ia

the dreaded twitter

This is like my worst nightmare.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/may/24/experience-i-woke-up-with-a-welsh-accent