Taking sides: roundish men vs. skinny men

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Obviously, you only really care about the person inside, but what if there a lot of layers to get through?

C'mon. Give me it straight!

Finely toned perfection is not on offer.

― Nick, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like men who are short and have that little pooch.

― anthony, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Skinny men, definitely, because I am mere slip of a thing and if I'm attracted to someone I start thinking LOGISTICS.

― suzy, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am sick, and I am a bad person and I know it, but I really am attracted to the 99lb weaking look over just about any other. I know that this just isn't right considering how round and layered I am, but the boys I really love are the ones that are so skinny they really look ill. They just have that "take me home and make me a hot meal" look about them that I find so attractive.

Of course, then I *do* take them home and feed them loads of hot meals, and then they're not so skinny any more, which kind of defeats the point.

I would, however, rather have a round man than one of those muscle-bound horrors. Muscles and the whole "I can't put my arms down cause my neck is the size of a bull's" look really disgust me. I like unhealthy looking men.

― masonic boom, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Skinny please. There is something horribly lethargic and greedy- looking about fat men. I often fall for bigger women though.

― chris, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is basically why I don't like indie music. Once I got the nous to be aware of such things I realised that the collective indie community has a massive skinny guy thing, which I will never be. I am shallow, alas.

Though in fact I've only ever met one woman who's expressed a preference for 'roundish' men. Luckily for me I'm going out with her.

― Tom, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My sister - married to THE VERY SPIT of Robbie Coltrane - is also a self-confessed Chubby Chaser.

― stevie t, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, it was skinny, small men til I realized I actually liked being around a guy that made me feel small and thin instead of like the 800lb woman. So it's not a preference for roundish men, maybe more built men? I don't know, because I'm not talking musclebound meatballs either. I have no clue.

― Ally, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I used to be a skinny man with a big arse and short legs and am now a roundish man with a big arse and short legs. I don't mind this too much, except that no clothes ever fit me. Despite this I go for thin men who I automatically assume would never fancy me given my roundness. Which only serves to further complicate my already complex pull-failure problems.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Skinny men with a little pooch, Anthony? Like a poodle or something?

I had a friend who said she liked men whose hip bones fit in between hers i.e. skinny men. I cannot get this skinny man thing. I mean if I go out with a skinny man a) I might break him and b) when we are together he will make me look fatter. And c) when we are, ahem, at it, his boney bones will stick in me and it will hurt in a bad way.

But I'm not really into fat men either. Maybe this great pickiness explains my singleness.

― Emma, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is totally the problem with uh roundness anyway. Most - not all - round people want to be less so, i.e. roundness for themselves is not a positive value so when they meet someone who does fancy them that's great but on the other hand they disagree with them about a quite fundamental thing. See also 'attractions' thread and 'self- esteem' thread I suppose. (I am particularly schizoid on this because I fancy big women but have difficulty believing that women can fancy big men but then get annoyed when big women have this exact same attitude etc. etc. Tarden I take it all back you can generalise and the world is fucked. Also what was that I said about not having low self-esteem curse curse.)

― Tom, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Me and the incredibly skinny to the point of unhealthiness man that I date *both* seem to have the same problem with physical self esteem- he can't *believe* that I actually find his body attractive to the point of fetishisation. (I don't actually believe at *all* that he really finds me physically attractive at all.) Overly thin men often have the same body image crisis that overly fat women have, as they've been fed this image of the buff, muscled Fabio lookalikes getting the girls. It's a strange thing.

― masonic boom, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fetishisation? Crumbs.

But anyway... I used to be very round, and now I'm very skinny. I used to get abuse for being very round, and now I get abuse for being very skinny. My secretary today, seeing my coughing and wheezing and trying to make my trousers fit me properly immediately declared I need to eat red meat and chips. Hmmmm.

So there's no ideal! I would point out, though, that if you become too skinny you have problems with hipbones and bruising. I'm not saying anymore...!

Curiously, I often wear clothes to emphasise the fact that I'm skinny. Anyone who's seen me in tight flares and skinny fit shirts will know what I mean.

― Paul Strange, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have only ever dated one "skinny guy" and I always felt that our joints and bones would bang into eachother in an very unpleasant way. I have dated a few pretty large men, but on the whole I have always liked someone who was just about my height, just about my weight, and just about as soft as me.

So three cheers for the "roundish" man!

― marianna maclean, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Men can easily get away with fatness more than women. Admit it, in the USA at least, women want "a nice guy" and men want "a nice ass". At least among most folk. Men will tolerate bitchness for sex reward but women will less often. THus, men are dumber and more shallow but also less prone to feeling like a they are too fat for love. AM I right here? ATTACK ME!

― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mik 'e' H is correct, at least in some of what he says.

I used to be skinny, but not any more.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Paul, I don't really think that being told to eat red meat and chips counts as abuse (even if you are a veggie!). Maybe your secretary wants to take you home and give you a hot meal.....

― Emma, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, even feeding me meat doesn't count as abuse! I am vegetarian though, so I'm not going to go for red meat...

Once dated someone as skinny as I. We were like two beanpoles. And sex just resulted in bones banging together, bruises, and so on.

― Paul Strange, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Paul we don't want to hear of your odd erection bashing contests. Can't you just give head like normal people!

― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As said before, like Mary Poppins, I am practically perfect in every way, not fat not skinny, just right. Although I could proabably loose the minor eunuch handles.

― Ed, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

honey, i could give you nothing straight; as to the q, both are equally fun to hold the ears of.

― Geoff, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When younger, I invariably would have a thing for the tallest, skinniest guy I knew. I wasn't even aware of it at first, but then when I looked back and took stock, I was surprised. Odd part is, that I've actually dated barely any at all like that. Most of my boyfriends have been under 5'8 and over 175 pounds. Luckily I'm shortish at 5'4 and also have never weighed under 120 since seventh grade - so it's been a good fit. There was only one guy who fit the tall bill, built strongly enough to carry me around too (which totally kicked ass) mmmmmm.... but I'm engaged to a 5'7 and rounded cutie now, so I don't talk about that other guy anymore.

― Kim, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rounded or round?

― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No a little love puch, a buddha belly , a front porch not a front veranda.

― anthony, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like a man to have a certain breadth in the shoulders, and if it comes with a certain breadth in the bum, so be it. The most succulent beef[cake] has a good amount of marbling.

Of course, I totally understand the comments about 1) skinny guys appearing a little fragile and 2) big girls (and by implication, boys) assuming that no one could ever find them attractive.

― J-Lu, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Appearing fragile? We *are* fragile!!! I was once blown over on the Cowley Road by a big gust of wind. Very embarrassing!

Oh, and the two skinny people was me and a girl... the hip-clashing probably wouldn't be as much of an issue if it was me and a boy. Or me and a more sexually adventurous girl... Or a girl and a more sexually adventurous me. Hmmmm...!

― Paul Strange, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There are ways of getting around the hip-clashing thing with skinny boys. I mean... whoever invented the missionary position was clearly a sadist. Why risk your hips when you've got two huge pillows on the other side just clearly designed for bearing weight?

OK, that was more than ANY of you wanted to know...

― Kate the Saint, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

re: tom and indie skinny-boy-bias; hiphop is the most varied-body-type-accepting musical genre of the past twenty-five years, recognize. i can't imagine missy elliot being a sex object if she were doing emo or something. also whenever a music crit makes a joke about biggie's, um, bigness, they are only showing off their incredible overwhelming WACKNESS because 1) nobody gives a fuck and 2) he referenced it in his own fucking name so lay the fuck off.

― ethan, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*is with a roudish man and finds him incredibly sexy* He's got the cutest butt! :)

― Danielle, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am skinny (6 foot and 11 stone), but my stomach is expanding (put on about a stone and a half in the last 2 years), can't get into my waist 32" jeans anymore...I'd rather not be skinny.

― james e l, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ethan's point = brilliant and interesting. (Tho soul down the years has surely been fairly wide-ranging in body type?) Af-Am orthodoxy in tastes = both With *and* Against White Social Norms? viz also Caribbean man-thing for VERY FAT WOMEN INDEED (viz article I read in Marie Claire abt not-fat women scoffing chicken hormones to balloon up...)

― mark s, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

soul and disco were really welcoming about body types as well (that's why i said 'of the the last twenty-five years'). strangely, dance is a total asshole about this sort of thing, cf. c+c music factory replacing badass fat chick sample sources with skinny models in video. dance is cruel to women anyway, it sucks. where are the plump idm-nerd girls? blues also good for this, mainly because artists had no visual representation. i don't really think it's a 'white' thing though, more thoughts on this later.

― ethan, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Megamegawhitething...uh, sorry, thought it was 1996.

Skinny-framed family, currently the heaviest of the lot, though not horribly so (I hope!). One of those things I can beat into shape if I diet right, as I've done it before, but I like food too much. Whenever I worry about my waist, I consider some of the folks I see around the campus here and stop fretting. I also sing the utterly brilliant song by Ashtray Boy "Paunch" to myself, as should you all. ;-)

Anyway, *I* hold myself well, Jane also frets a bit on her end but *she* holds herself very well indeed, so screw everyone else, we're happy. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

where are the plump idm-nerd girls?

I dunno. If you find any let me know

― m jemmeson, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm pretty much only into skinny guys.

― Sean, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm a plump IDM-nerd girl.

Anyway, skinny men are my thing. Those fragile-looking men have a way of carrying themselves that just kills me. Tall is not required...above 5'5" is fine. I've never been attracted to someone who's not terribly skinny. After that we get into all my face issues.
The fact that I'm always 40-60 lbs. heavier than the men I like is probably not good.
Have yet to find a skinny guy (much less any guy) that fancies me.

I would like to take this moment to say that Jonny Greenwood is perfect in every respect again. This includes personality.

― Melissa W, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think i started something with the plump idm-nerd girls comment, and i could not be happier for it.

― ethan, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fragile means you will break them if you start doing soemthign really interesting. I want robust !

― anthony, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As a roundish guy of 26 (five-ten, 210 lb, large belly) I've been fairly lucky--the woman I'm with right now, and the woman before her, are both shamelessly attracted to guys with buddhas. (that last is currently with a guy who's almost exactly like me both physically and personality-wise--except he's about a thousand times nicer a person.) But even when I weighed 145 lb. when I was 19 (true!), I still had a belly and a complex about it. Men's body issues aren't commented on very much but they're quite real. Still, I have a hard time taking it personally when someone on this list likes skinny tall guys--it's not an affront, it's a preference. For instance, I like short, pear- shaped girls more than any other kind; my current squeeze is tall and has lovely hips but they're hardly axe-handle-width the way I like. And I'm hardly complaining about it.

― Michaelangelo Matos, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i've always been skinny, it doesn't look like thats going to change any time soon either

― gareth, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am skinny (6 foot and 11 stone)

Pah - you fatty amateur! I'm 6 foot and 8 and a half stone (that's 120 pounds, US kids). Beat that!

― Nick, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And Nick has the cheek to call the rest of us freaks! Maybe we should split between physical and emotional freaks ;)

― Emma, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am 5'2" and last time I weighed myself the scales said 15 stone. In retrospect I think they might have been bust because I am not that fat....

― Pete, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No comment, Pete. And I am not telling you how much I weigh as a true lady never reveals her weight on the interweb. But I am 5'5".

― Emma, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, Emma. I think that would be a very good idea indeed. I have always longed for a career in circus. And who wants to see a bunch of emotional freaks riding unicycles? Not me.

As a side issue, I like the idea of all these so-called skinnyboy-lovers averting their eyes and blubbing 'No - that's TOO SKINNY'. Pete, perhaps you hadn't noticed you had a tube train stuck to your arse?

― Nick, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am 6' 5" and I think I weigh like 245. I am pretty fatty, but keepin g lean sucks. WHo can give up ice cream?

― Mike Hanle y, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am not a lady and I would gladly tell my weight on the interweb except... erm... I don't actually know it. I haven't been near a scale since I was in hospital, and they told me in kilograms and I didn't understand it at all. Plus I've put on a bit since them. (Inactivity, curse you!)

I like the idea of all these so-called skinnyboy-lovers averting their eyes and blubbing 'No - that's TOO SKINNY'.

I have never in my life said that any boy was too skinny. (I mean, Posh Spice? Yes, too skinny. But boys? No.) Oh wait, no, maybe once, it was a quite early picture of Vini Rielly (sp?) from Durutti Column and I could actually see the veins in his arms he was so thin. That was a bit disturbing.

― Kate the Saint, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was going to say - Vini Reilly (recently too - on that Carol Morley film) beats me into a cocked hat.

― Nick, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like skinny boys with quite broad shoulders and I *love* veiny arms. Veiny arms don't always go hand-in-hand with skinnyness though, sometimes they're just closer to the surface than on other people and when the, er, blood gets pumping they stand out even more.

― Madchen, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I weigh 135lbs. I have no fear of telling you all this because I am not a lady, NOR AM I A TART MIKE.

― Ally, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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im starting to get a booze-belly.

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

me too. they're not pretty on skinny men.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

in due time, the sight of me getting into the shower will be virtually identical to that of e.t. boarding the mothership.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

im going to switch to bacardi light and diet coke. zero carbs and only a couple of calories.

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

how many calories in a heineken?

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't want to think about it. im most definitely off beer and cutting popeye's intake to once-a-week.

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

bleah. my anorexic best friend drinks bacardi and diet coke. it's nasty. don't go there, phil! you're adorable just the way you are.
(i'm sure you are, too, mark.)

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

If I can't get arms around him at least twice I'm scared I'll fall off.

― Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks lauren! they should pre-package those bacardi & diet cokes into like slim-fast bottles for drunkards. would make ton of money, i think.

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

there are 160 calories in a 12oz serving of heineken.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(i am SO asking my next waitress for a 'serving' of beer.)

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(I think half the reason I'm so turned on my skinny men is that I just MUST look really hilarious when I'm fucking them, and laughing almost never fails to trip my trigger... it has to be that, since I'm a horrible cook...)

― Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

what if you're neither skinny or roundish?

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

or not a man at all

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Finely toned perfection is not on offer.

-- Nick (nickdastoo...) (webmail), July 18th, 2001 8:00 PM. (4 trackbacks) (link)

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

taking sides: mostly-triangular women vs. quadrahedrial transexuals

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Obviously, you only really care about the person inside, but what if there a lot of layers to get through?

and i always thought the girls only really cared about the penis inside anyway. maybe that's where i've gone wrong.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

taking sides: roundi.. oh forget it.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm more lumpy than skinny or round.

― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Leave it, ken.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

the pork pie??

but it's so tasty! and it'd help with the upkeep of my roundish figure

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

round like a pencil, perhaps

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It is funny to see that N. himself started this thread.

Really.

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Funny thing is this: You would never suspect me to loving skinny men. If you could see how cute I really am!!

hey, whats that supposed to mean?

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

height seems to be my main issue. with one or two exceptions, everyone i've had any involvement with in the past few years has been at least 6'1".

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I like both I guess. I don't really have a preference for body type. Except I don't think I'd fancy a muscly body-builder.

― mandee, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

popeye muscles are gross, but muscles that occur naturally from lifting and carrying around musical equipment or cases of beer are dreamy.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

In that they exist only in your dreams, yes.

― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I haul musical instruments and beer around all the time and I look like a sack of potatoes that needs a haircut.

― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it works very well for some people i know.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Are they drinking any of the beer, or just carrying it from point A to point B?

― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I like both I guess. I don't really have a preference for body type. Except I don't think I'd fancy a muscly body-builder.

That's the only body-type that I have an aversion to, really. There's just something really off-putting about body builders.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

chugging gallons of it, actually. i should clarify - aforementioned hauling is their job. 8 hours of heavy lifting does have an effect.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...

this is the first thread I ever posted on. go me!

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 31 January 2005 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

congrats.

My husband is fat and I find his body repulsive even though I am fatter than he is. What kind of a jerk am I?

― papa november (papa november), Monday, 31 January 2005 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

have you ever met a nice, pleasant, happy, easygoing fat guy?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 31 January 2005 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, many. what the hell kind of question is that, anyway?

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 31 January 2005 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Ever met a nice, pleasant, happy, easygoing fat girl?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 31 January 2005 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, I see. thought you were just being weird.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 31 January 2005 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Get the net!

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 31 January 2005 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.adorocinema.com.br/personalidades/atores/john-goodman/john-goodman01.jpg

AND

http://www.geocities.com/mozzywozzy2000/jgbird2.jpg

*sigh*
I like the way James Gandolfini breathes through his nose, i don't know why.

― Nellie (nellskies), Monday, 31 January 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I also want to know who thought 'Let's have James Gandolfini holding a bird, YEAH'

― Nellie (nellskies), Monday, 31 January 2005 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

He's using the bird as maraccas.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 31 January 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

Sod off More.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 18 August 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

None of the men in their gallery are truly skinny imo, apart from maybe Jarvis Cocker and Rhys Ifans. Most of the rest are just normal to slim. Or drug addicts.

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 18 August 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

skinny, aye?

http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/2296_006.jpg

― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 18 August 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

I was perplexed by this:

Rhys Ifans' chest is not exactly a washboard.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 18 August 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Meaning, his wife has to go to the laundromat.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 18 August 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that too, Beth, but I was really thinking that if you boasted to someone that you had washboard abs, that's one thing, but if you said you had a washboard chest...

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.greencine.com/images/article/laurel-hardy-portrait.jpg

― Sir Dr. Rev. PappaWheelie Jr. II of The Third Kind (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

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