Salivatee thee thusly! The Apple Phone

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― Latham Green (mike), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

yeah ok i want it

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Talked to death on the Apple thread obv. Points to gripe about but in essence = yay, gimme.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ned will be pleased with its taser feature.

― Latham Green (mike), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

An invaluable assistance on those days when I wish to kill.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if there will ever be an iglock.

― Latham Green (mike), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

iBrator

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

That I would buy.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

oh it's a widescreen ipod too!!
i don't even have a mac and am stubbornly pc, but i want this. thankfully i am poor right now but will one day again have money and i think when that day comes the iphone will be in 2nd gen at least, yeah!

― rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

need: new ipod
don't need: new phone/service (just entered into new contract this fall)

― passiflora incarnata (get bent), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I really couldn't care less about this thing, even though it comes equipped with a "breakthrough Internet device".

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

A stylus!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

No, wait...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I know I should be attracted to a "revolutionary phone" but I'm just not feelin' it. (I do like how the description of the "revolutionary phone" makes it sound like a Treo knockoff.)

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Steve Shasta has made a similar complaint. Jon W. was rather fierce in response.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I would rather a revolving phone

― Latham Green (mike), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Okay seriously, the more I read about this thing, the more the entire thing seems like a gigantic joke! The only things interesting here are:

- widescreen iPod
- flip interface for useless shit I don't want to look at on my phone anyway
- random access voicemail

Everything else is something I can already do on my Treo (including listening to MP3s). I am really not caring about this thing at all.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

tardis phone?
xpost

― rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

As somebody who has the cheapest phone available, this looks better than anything else out there.

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Would this device encourage side talkin'?

― molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

public doman images phone

http://www.coolnotions.com/PDImages/PD_BillNyesRedBook_03.htm

― Latham Green (mike), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I am really not caring about this thing at all.

Depends on what you want. I see this thing as more of a portable terminal that's a hell of a lot lighter than a ultralight laptop (or that MacBook Mini that people were rumoring about)

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) As somebody with a Treo, this looks like a big sack of balls being sold as magic beans.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Everything else is something I can already do on my Treo (including listening to MP3s).
Yeh, I should be able to do everything it can do on my Nokia N80 as well. But I can't, because the interface is stupid and slow (although better than everythign else just now), and it just clunks at everything it does.

I suppose this is like when the iPod came out and everyone said "but MP3 players already do that, apart from this wheel thing"

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Dan. This is always what people say about new Apple products. x does this already, y blah blah. It all comes down to how well a device does something, not whether every feature is new or not. Until we get our hands on it, it's impossible to say for sure if it's great or not, but from the demos it looks like a joy to use.

xpost

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like my technology to multi-task, truth be told, I'm too brone to breaking/losing things and kind of think people who are using their phones as MP3 players look a bit twatty anyway :\

It looks pretty nice though. The 2-year-locked-contract isn't exactly a banner thing though IMO, I wonder why they couldn't work out just for a one year.

xpost ET makes the best points, as usual, it seems to be a pretty great itty-bitty laptop!

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

iBrator
-- The Android Cat (djperr...), January 9th, 2007 7:43 PM. (Dan Perry) (link)

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That I would buy.
-- N.i.c.o.l.e (pl...), January 9th, 2007 7:44 PM. (Ex Leon) (link)

A: iPod Sex Accessories?!

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

who will be the first person to post to ILX on an iPhone?

― database update failed (sanskrit), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) As somebody with a Treo, this looks like a big sack of balls being sold as magic beans.

This looks like a much better interface than any of the itty bitty keyboards I've used, and the web software looks better and the tilt function actually seems usefull here to make reading easier.

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Perry, you've gotten stupid in your old age. The big things is the modern web browser, the multi-touch and the thing runs OS X.

My prediction is that this thing will have more apps than every other smartphone platform except windows mobile within a year or two

Also, everyone I know who has a Treo kind of hates it.

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

With all the shared/collaborative whizz-bang stuff that's supposed to be included in Leopard Server, I can see this as a direct replacement for corporate Exchange/Blackberry installations. It'll certainly be easier to install.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=RIMM

^ pwned

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I wish you could buy one without getting the phone contract.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Skype is presumably about to become everyone's friend, again.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Yeah, the two-year phone contract is bullshit, and I suspect it's going to hurt sales.

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hopefully, they'll release an unbundled version before the exclusive bundle ends.

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Perfect timing for Xmas.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Cingular has 2 yr contracts on all their higher end phones (maybe all of their phones?). The subsidy they give on most handsets is shit, not even close to the amount of cash they'll make off you in 2 yrs. Even figuring them willing to take a smaller profit from a popular phone, I'm guessing the real cost of the iPhone is close to about $200 more than the subsidized price.

Hopefully these will be available as a gray-market handset. I'd pay $800 for this if I could be sure I wasn't locked to Cingular for 2 yrs.

― Charles Harry Augustus Mellowtongue (Jonas), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sort of curious what they really mean by "runs OS X". Making a phone that actually works means having semi-realtime OS to talk to the radio hardware, and I'm not sure if the desktop OS X is really up to that. Obviously the GUI is completely different, and the interface is completely new...so what's stayed the same?

― Charles Harry Augustus Mellowtongue (Jonas), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's probably just a cut down kernel. Makes it easier to update than constant firmware flashing.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Hanle y!!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

I will be buying one of these soon after launch. I use Cingular already and my service has been solid, so that part of it isn't a big deal to me. The important thing is that my phone is old and ugly, whereas this is new and pretty. It's the first cellphone I've actually coveted in the history of the universe.

I wonder how ringtones will work.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm not sure myself why everybody has complained about Cingular. I've used Cingular, T-Mobile, and Sprint extensively near Boston for the past 6 months, and even with T-Mobile lack-of-3G-data and spotty coverage outside of cities, they have all been pretty decent. Cingular seems to have been the most reliable, Sprint has consistently faster data access.

I suppose everybody has their favorite carrier, just like everybody has a favorite way to get kicked in the junk.

― Charles Harry Augustus Mellowtongue (Jonas), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha hi Jon!

I think my point is really more "This thing does not satisfy any needs I have that are not already satisfied by my current phone, so why should I care?" than anything else. I don't give a flying fuck about OS X. I don't give a flying fuck about having a fully-fledged web browser on my phone. I don't care about "the multi-touch" (HELLO PRIEST etc). I already have a contract with Cingular so I don't even care about that.

So, back to my original point; given that this thing does not satisfy any of my needs, why should I give a flying fuck about it?

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

The big things is the modern web browser, the multi-touch and the thing runs OS X.

Poor Amateurist. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Since Apple is so obviously not beholden to the huge inane set of requirements specifications that every major operator gives to handset vendors before they can even get to a sales meeting, I imagine they are doing ringtones right; plays standard PC audio formats like mp3, fancier ringtones probably purchasable for $0.50-1.00 directly from the iTunes store.

Bu that's just a guess and my general bitterness after 3+ yrs in the mobile phone industry.

― Charles Harry Augustus Mellowtongue (Jonas), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, my zing made no sense.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Welcome to our world.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Because maybe it's better than anything else out there?

xpost

― Super Cub (Debito), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, I think what Jon's trying to say is that with the collective brilliance of Apple's shareware developer legions at work, eventually there will be something this thing can do that will make us drop our jaws and want to switch. Brace yourself.

― Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

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I think I used sidetrack when it was freeware, then moved to iScroll2 when he started charging.

― treefell (treefell), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Guardian's saying that Telefonica have got a deal to sell it in Spain. They own O2.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

O2 eh? I'm on O2. Maybe I could actually get one ...was what I just thought for one baffling moment.

― ledge (ledge), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

I should probably switch now so I can harangue them into a decent deal on mins/texts, cos there's no way they're going to offer anything tempting on iPhone.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

the "no removable battery" thing seems like it could become a big annoyance. like someone else pointed out, sending in your phone for 2 weeks of servicing to get it replaced is a lot bigger deal than sending in your ipod--which it's a lot easier to live 2 weeks w/o.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I should probably switch now so I can harangue them into a decent deal on mins/texts, cos there's no way they're going to offer anything tempting on iPhone

might be worth waiting a little longer, but this is maybe not a bad idea at all.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

grimly, did you see those links? One of them ought to make your Powerbook do the scrolly thing. I think I actually prefer the way iScroll does it, over the built-in Mac way.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Bugger, I hadn't seen that. That is very dumb.

There's some speculation that the phone is closed right now because it still hasn't been approved by the FCC.

The more I think about it, the more I'm going to wait for iPhone rev. 2.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, tracer: am at work now but will try them out later. ah, it'll be just like when i installed "clickpad" on my old 5300 (which I STILL HAVE and which STILL WORKS, mac fans. the day when i idly connected it to my router and it JUST WORKED is still a joyous memory.)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

off topic but...am I the only who hates touchpads? If I bought a macbook, I wish I could get a trackball still.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

dan: i actually liked the ibm clit mouse quite a bit, but never trackballs.

i got quite used to the macbook trackpad, scrolling and all. right clicking is actually easier now than with two buttons, cause you just put both fingers on it and click. you don't need to awkardly move your thumb around.

my only wish is that they incorporate application-specific zooming with the scrollpad, like for pictures or text within the app. right now, if you press control and scroll, it zooms in on the whole screen, but i rarely want to do that.

and for the iphone, i wont be getting one for a couple of years, due to 1) the almighty do-not-ever-buy-revision-A-apple-stuff rule 2) wait ing for it to come to canada 3) wait for my rogers contract to expire/lower their absurd data rate.

― five roses (Elliot), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

i always though of it as a nipple.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

i always thought of it as a very small cock.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I like the touchpad nipple a lot for moving the mouse around, but not for doing anything more specific. I assume most graphic designers/artists, or at least the ones who don't have wacom tablets, just attach a mouse to their laptops...the touchpad and nipple seem useless for that kind of stuff...but as a trackball user (and lots of designers get used to the trackball, I do some very specific art stuff with it) it'd just be easiest to have a laptop with the trackball to begin with.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

i guess the problem is it takes up a good bit more space, esp given that slimness now seems to be all.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Are we talking about nipples or cocks now?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

balls.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

w3m = no cookie = no good.

Sterling, did you look in the settings?

Yea, the iPhone is pretty much a dud to me without 3rd party apps. I hope they at least let people install safe widgets though. Oh well

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

no i just read the faq. i don't need it now anyway coz my work sitch has changed, and i didn't feel like compiling a binary just for the sake of it.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think I would worry most about with this thing is that it would get scratch all to shit, like everyone else's video iPod. I have a hard plastic case for mine... very effective. But that ain't gonna work with a touch screen. And if this is made out of the same high-gloss, scratch-attractant plastic as the iPod (and it looks like it is), your iPhone is going to look 10 years old in a week.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Man, can I ever not type. I can't even be bothered to correct all that.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's made of a glass front, aluminium back, and a black plastic chunk on the bottom, where it needs to be radio-transparent.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 12 January 2007 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/354638930_c818db973e.jpg?v=0

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 14 January 2007 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

doodz. new ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alSHDmv3spc&mode=related&search=

― CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

i think they're allowing 3rd party apps now?

― river wolf, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

the touching musics in the commercials = aw.

― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

if 3rd parties develop the sort of medical software that palms have then i may have to get one.

― river wolf, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

They're talking about allowing 3rd party apps, but not fully-fledged ones at first. I think it's basically going to be dashboard widgets to begin with. I like the new ads -- they're liek the Newton ones, in that they show you what to do with the thing, instead of "lookie buy this and ppl will sexor you"

― stet, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

do it run ableton live

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah. I remember when Apple had a phone. It supposed to be cool or something.

― Aimless, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

zing?

― river wolf, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

I should hope they have a phone, as their headquarters must need one to conduct business.

― Abbott, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

I find the cellphone as life-defining accessory a somewhat depressing concept.

― milo z, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, like i want to talk to people

― homosexual II, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

perhaps people are realizing that it's just another (very nice, very expensive) phone?

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2007/07/is_the_iphone_a_failure_maybe.html

― gabbneb, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

I am interested to hear more about this "Apple Phone".

― admrl, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-case/im-dumping-the-iphone-_b_57748.html

― admrl, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

As cool-lookin as it is, I'm thinking "dude I've already got iTunes on my phone. Why do I want to pay $500 for a screen that's gonna get covered in fingerprints & scratches?"

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

images of a love that once burned white hot, but now are just a flicker of sadness.

groan

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Lodger (See profile | I'm a fan of lodger)
1. Good idea: wait 6 months after release to purchase any computer or internet-related product.
2. Better idea: wait 12 months.
3. Best idea: wait 18 months. You'll get a better, real-world tested product at about 30-50% less cost, and you won't be paying big bux to be a guinea pig!

for real

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

true dat, double true!

― Wrinklepaws, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

The three people I know with them have had significant crashes (one has a touch screen dead spot which prevents him from typing 'a'??). I still plan on getting one next year though.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

Next year indeed. Maybe rather late next year.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

that I tried to use you while driving and almost killed myself

and/or other people, jesus christ what a douche.

― ledge, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

Absolutely without doubt the best gadget/toy/phone/whatever I've ever bought. And yeah, it'll be better and cheaper in a while, but I'm glad I have it now. It really does piss all over any other smartphone.

― toby, Thursday, 26 July 2007 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

you should post to ilx from it, showoff

― sanskrit, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Who says he isn't?

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

ned guessed right - in fact i've been using it for almost all my web access for the last week or so. It's been pretty painless, except of course in areas without at&t coverage.

― toby, Thursday, 26 July 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

the only reason I want an iPhone is because it would allow me to realistically surf the web. Yeah, you can do it on other phones but it's really limiting and, I might add, pretty slow. Don't even get me started on the icky vileness that is Verizon's VCAST.

I'm an Apple shill, but I'm not buying a phone without physical buttons on it. Or a remote. Or a computer keyboard. Or anything.

― Dandy Don Weiner, Thursday, 26 July 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Don, have you seen the Treo 750's web browser? It's not perfect and it's not as nice as the iPhone browser but it's an order of magnitude better than traditional phone browsers.

― HI DERE, Thursday, 26 July 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

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