http://eddieonfilm.blogspot.com/2006/12/lord-help-us-its-another-oscar-survey.html
By rough count I've seen 60 of the winners, but some a loooong time ago (Loretta Young). I'd like to put Kate Hepburn on for On Golden Pond.
Matt Seitz' 2 cents (I've still never seen Blue Sky):
http://mattzollerseitz.blogspot.com/2007/01/worst-best-actress-and-best.html
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:48 (nineteen years ago)
― chap (chap), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)
Janet Gaynor, Sunrise ( haven't seen the other film)Vivien Leigh, A Streetcar Named DesireJane Fonda, KluteDiane Keaton, Annie HallEmma Thompson Howards End
Worst (gad, take your pick):
Every Katherine Hepburn for which she won (except The Lion in Winter, maybe)Greer Garson, Mrs. MiniverIngrid Bergman, AnastasiaKathy Bates, MiseryHilary Swank, Million Dollar Baby
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)
Rescreening Streetcar I'm inclined to agree, but it's one of the best miscasting jobs in screen history. She shows her mettle in the quiet scenes with Karl Malden and Kim Hunter.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)
Actually, Fun with Dick & Jane was probably the end.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)
I just watched (most of) that. Not only was she really good, I was surprised at how almost obscenely grueling that movie was. I mean, it's like this movie was the Requiem for a Dream of it's day or something (which is why I'm not really sure I liked it).
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 07:25 (nineteen years ago)
Best:
Patricia Neal, HudElizabeth Taylor, Virginia Woolf?Diane Keaton, Annie HallJessica Tandy, Driving Miss DaisyFrances McDormand, Fargo
Worst:
Joan Fontaine, SuspicionShirley MacLaine, Terms of Endearment [well, maybe not that bad, but Debra Winger was so way better.]Jodie Foster, Silence of the LambsHelen Hunt, As Good As It GetsHalle Berry, Monsters Maek Me Feel Guuuuud
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 07:32 (nineteen years ago)
jane fonda is occaisionally good. ever hear of gena rowlands?
― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 12 January 2007 07:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 07:46 (nineteen years ago)
Rowlands is generally fine, but I tend toward the Kaelite view of Cassavetes -- he paved new aesthetic ground for much better filmmakers. I particularly can't stand Woman Under the Influence or Opening Night.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)
I haven't seen enough/remember enough of these movies to make a list.
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark Co (Markco), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)
worst:Mary Pickford (Coquette)Katharine Hepburn (Guess Who's Coming to Dinner)Jane Fonda (Coming Home)Helen Hunt (As Good As It Gets)Halle Berry (Monster's Ball)
except for the last few years, (post hilary swank's first oscar) the choices were actually pretty strong, and the performances were universally excellent, yes even cher.
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:04 (nineteen years ago)
But Crawford is no fun in Mildred Pierce! Eve Arden walks away with every scene.
I'll co-sign with Eric on preferring Debra Winger over MacLaine in TOE.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:55 (nineteen years ago)
I remember Carol Burnett as Mildred Fierce (which must be a commonplace drag name by now) better than Crawford.
Cher's performance is the best thing in Moonstruck aside from the brief Olympia Dukakis-John Mahoney scenes.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)
Sally Field in Places in the Heart is another dubious nod.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark Co (Markco), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)
I'd like to know which directors she was talking about so I can laugh in her dead face.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)
(actually, maybe she didn't think the ground was new or worth paving either)
anthony, the pre-waxy JC (Grand Hotel and earlier) did same, I think.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
Best:1. Bette Davis, Jezebel2. Frances McDormand, Fargo3. Vivien Leigh, A Streetcar Named Desire4. Diane Keaton, Annie Hall5. Faye Dunaway, Network
― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:02 (nineteen years ago)
I was sort of hoping that Ellen Burstyn was considered the front-runner that year.
I haven't seen much Elaine May (any), but I'm having a hard time believing that Kael thought Scorsese was walking the same path, but more stylishly, than Cassavetes. All I know is Love Streams means a lot to me. (Then again, so does Kael, but I've learned like anyone with half a wit to separate her preferences from her writing.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:11 (nineteen years ago)
― ‘•’u (gear), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:28 (nineteen years ago)
Marlene Dietrich, MoroccoIrene Dunne, The Awful Truth [not a fan of the film, but perfs are great.]Bette Davis, All About EveKatharine Hepburn, Suddenly, Last SummerEllen Burstyn, The ExorcistGena Rowlands, A Woman Under the InfluenceCarol Kane, Hester StreetSissy Spacek, CarrieAngela Bassett, What's Love Got to Do with It?Emily Watson, Breaking the Waves
I almost included Julie Christie, but I think it's more that I just really like McCabe than her performance in it.
"Best worst": Nancy Kelly, The Bad Seed
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)
Barbara Stanwyck, Double IndemnityJessica Lange, FrancesMeryl Streep, A Cry in the DarkGlenn Close, Dangerous Liasons Angelica Huston, The GriftersAnnette Bening, Being Julia
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)
I'd go with Stanwyck for Ball of Fire (same year she did The Lady Eve).
and Isabelle Adjani for The Story of Adele H.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:55 (nineteen years ago)
ten best/worst of the non winners
bestDeitrich, MoroccoStanwyck. Stella DallasAnne Baxter, All About EveDandrige, Carmen JonesLana Turner, Peyton PlaceFaye Dunaway, Bonnie and ClydeGena Rowlands, A woman Under the InfluenceSpaceck, CArrieSigourney Weaver, AlienImelda Staunton, Vera Drake
worstNathalie Wood, Splendor in the GrassSOphia Loren, Love Italian StyleSimone Singoret, Ship of FoolsJoanne Woodward, Rachel, RachelAli Mcgraw, Love SToryMeryl Streep, IronwoodJulia Roberts, Pretty WomanBette Midler, For the BoysElizabeth Shue, LEaving LAs VegasGoldie Hawn, Private Benjamin
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:10 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)
I was THIS close to putting her in my list of best nominated-didn't-wins.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:24 (nineteen years ago)
It's dark, slow, and poorly cast.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)
I'd leave France McDormand, the redeeming element of Fargo, off the best list juz cuz she's in it for maybe 25 minutes.
Has no one spat on Gwyneth yet?? "It is a NEWWWW wohld..."
Eric, what's wrong with The Awful Truth, or do you just disconnect from screwball?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 January 2007 16:33 (nineteen years ago)
I considered leaving McDormand off too. Her replacement probably would've been Sarandon, though, and I know I'm not the only one who thought she was outacted by Penn in that one. Actually, I would've switched the Dead Man Walking/Leaving Las Vegas votes so Penn won Actor and Shue won Actress.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)
anyway, results:
http://eddieonfilm.blogspot.com/2007/01/top-10-best-best-actress-winners.html
http://eddieonfilm.blogspot.com/2007/01/top-10-worst-best-actress-winners.html
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)
― ‘•’u (gear), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:51 (eighteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)
RIP Luise Rainer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJEpszcDyqQ
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 17:18 (eleven years ago)
at last!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 18:52 (eleven years ago)
I thought Poppy Bush was gonna die before her.
Any updates?
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:54 (one year ago)
To hear Film Twitter say it, all of the last 10 best actor winners that aren't Casey Affleck are as bad as any winners in that category
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:57 (one year ago)
Oops, neglected that this is for best actress only ... I can't believe I listed Shirley MacLaine in my worsts two decades ago
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:05 (one year ago)
And I feel penitent about citing Halle Berry, whose performance isn't the problem with Monster's Ball so much as *gestures* all of the rest of that
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:06 (one year ago)
Cate Blanchett's BA win this decade is the only that appalls me. I can't work up much more than a meh for Emma Stone, Brie Larson, Jessica Chastain, and McDormand's for Three Billboards.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:07 (one year ago)
otoh Best Actor is a series of disasters this decade. I'd keep Casey Affleck and Anthony Hopkins and shoot the rest.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:12 (one year ago)
I dunno, I thought Rami Malek was brilliant.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:14 (one year ago)
if Brandon were a tougher president, he'd force Congress to pass legislation that requires a panel to approve the filming of future biopics.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:28 (one year ago)
Was thinking of Samantha Morton in Sweet and Lowdown for best, but it turns out she was nominated for Best Supporting Actress and lost to Angelina Jolie.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:31 (one year ago)
First time I've seen this thread...My #1 Best Actress would be Patricia Neal in Hud, although it might be on the lower half in terms of screen time.
― clemenza, Friday, 16 February 2024 17:51 (one year ago)
Vivien Leigh for A Streetcar Named Desire immediately comes to mind as perhaps my favorite. I don’t think the Oscars typically honor what I’d pick as the best, whether it’s for the year or that particular performer’s work, but that time they did.
― birdistheword, Friday, 16 February 2024 17:55 (one year ago)
Did anyone do a followup Best/Worst Best Actors list? *ready to name Lionel Barrymore in A Free Soul*
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:58 (one year ago)
BestOlivia de Havilland, The HeiressVivien Leigh, A Streetcar Named DesireElizabeth Taylor, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?Jane Fonda, KluteFrances McDormand, Fargo
WorstLuise Rainer, The Good EarthIngrid Bergman, GaslightGlenda Jackson, A Touch of ClassKatharine Hepburn, On Golden PondMeryl Streep, The Iron Lady
Honestly, the only way it felt right to do the latter list was to focus on multi-winning actors who most definitely had a clinker amid their haul
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:29 (one year ago)
(I'll consider swapping Emma Stone's La La Land performance in there for Glenda Jackson should Stone win another for Poor Things)
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:31 (one year ago)
Gaslight, aw c'mon. It wouldn't rank in Bergman's top three, and she coasts on our affection for her instead of acting, but it's hardly embarrassing
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:40 (one year ago)
Here's an excerpt from a longer list:
1. Bette Davis – Jezebel2. Jane Fonda – Klute3. Faye Dunaway – Network4. Ellen Burstyn – Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore5. Olivia de Havilland – The Heiress6. Claudette Colbert – It Happened One Night7. Diane Keaton – Annie Hall8. Julia Roberts – Erin Brockovich9. Vivian Leigh – Gone with the Wind10. Sissy Spacek – Coal Miner’s Daughter
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:41 (one year ago)
Bergman's at least better than Boyer, but not by a lot
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:45 (one year ago)
And I did make a solid effort to spread the best list across the decades, otherwise yes, I'd have been more likely to include Dunaway, Burstyn and Keaton.
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:46 (one year ago)
Without Boyer that film falls apart; I can't envision Gaslight without his ability to turn on a dime from his silken charm to menace.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:47 (one year ago)
Meh, I think the movie basically fell apart
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:48 (one year ago)
https://i.imgur.com/SYXEV9l.gif
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:50 (one year ago)
Now she, had she won, I'd have no quarrels with. Both for this and Manchurian Candidate
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:52 (one year ago)
The best Best Actor winners in no order:
1. Marlon Brando – On the Waterfront2. Emil Jannings – The Last Command/The Way of All Flesh3. James Cagney – Yankee Doodle Dandy4. Jeremy Irons – Reversal of Fortune5. Jon Voight – Coming Home6. Daniel Day-Lewis – My Left Foot7. Jack Nicholson – One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest8. Nicholas Cage – Leaving Las Vegas9. Clark Gable – It Happened One Night10. Casey Affleck – Manchester by the Sea11. Charles Laughton – The Private Life of Henry VIII12. Fredric March – The Best Years of Our Lives
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:53 (one year ago)
BestClark Gable, It Happened One NightMarlon Brando, On the WaterfrontRod Steiger, In the Heat of the NightGene Hackman, The French ConnectionF. Murray Abraham, Amadeus
WorstRichard Dreyfuss, The Goodbye GirlDustin Hoffman, Rain ManAl Pacino, Scent of a WomanKevin Spacey, American BeautyBrendan Fraser, The Whale
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:01 (one year ago)
Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman
The worst of the worst. Truly embarrassing.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:05 (one year ago)
Don't forget among the worst: Gary Oldman and Eddie Redmayne and Jean Dujardin and...
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:05 (one year ago)
Hey it used to be politely called Expressionistic
― wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:06 (one year ago)
Ooh, Roberto Begnini
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:08 (one year ago)
xxp of those, I only really strongly dislike Oldman's; it's Matthew McC's that gave me the most temptation to double-dip on recent worsts
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:08 (one year ago)
hard yes on Begnini's abysmal work
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:09 (one year ago)
Almost included Charlton Heston in the worsts but he at least kinda understood the assignment
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:10 (one year ago)