terminals touch v 3ds venus tail

tell me theres someone who at least thinks these two long forgotten? records are worthy of battle or maybe at least discussion. they are my favourite nzild full lengthers, one considerably more mysterious than the other more muscular but catchy as hell 3ds, who else plays the guitar like david mitchell- blew my ears off one night in hamilton. who else sings like david crooks and makes music as beautiful as this record?c'mon... anybody?

...apart from your own personal favorite. i wasn't talking about them.

no sir.