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I'm stunned that there isn't a thread about this! I went to see this last week. Fantastic film with an amazing soundtrack. I am surprised that FW is getting main actor awards when I think he's closer to a supporting role/foil/trope for young doctor.

I had read the book a few years ago so was quite pleased with how different the film was: I didn't know what was coming next.

The camera work was also great and really reminded me of Leni Riefenstahl's photos in the Sudan.

So who else has seen it? Any fans (or haters) on ILE?

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 22 January 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

My initial kneejerk reaction from the trailer: Enormous African drama made 'accessible' by presence of white dude - fuck no!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

seriously. there are no white people in africa!

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

Very impressed with first half, thought it lost its way a bit in the second half until terrific hooky ending. McAvoy and Whittaker have great chemistry, and I can clearly see why they are pushing Whittaker for best actor (look at recent winners: impersonation is the way to win these days). I thought showing actual pictures of Amin at the end would be a mistake (Whittaker's dodgy eye f'rinstance has no analog), and would destroy the verisimilitude, but oddly Forest's performance made Amin look like the imposter*.

As a character who on paper is solely a metaphor for Western intervention, McAvoy's Garrigan is really rather well fleshed out. Got to say though I was sold on the film from the moment they played Toko by Momo Wandel Soumoh on the soundtrack (about ten minutes in) what with it being probably my favourite Africa piece of music.

*Not necessarily a good thing.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

also: asians in uganda? please.

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the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

asians in uganda? please.

Erm, you do realise that bit did actually happen?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

(Wikipedia says Uganda's Asian population was around 50,000 before the 1972 expulsion, most of them moving to the UK)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

this was my joke.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

*wooosh*

that was the sound of it zooming over my head :-)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

My initial kneejerk reaction from the trailer: Enormous African drama made 'accessible' by presence of white dude - fuck no!

Not like that at all!

Pete, soundtrack was so good I bought it the next day. Still waiting for it to be delivered. Such a moron, should have just gone to HMV!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

In many ways the film is quite a good riposte to the white man in Africa style of film-making. I'm not stupid, its how these films get financed and get an audience half the time (new Sight & Sound quite good on this* though obviousness of situation prevails). The big problem with African film is lack of decent distribution (and often lack of product). Good to see Sisters IN Law on Channel 4 Saturday night, a terrific doco. But since McAvoy's charcter is so venal and willingly clueless about the situation, and because Whittaker's Amin is so charismatic, there isn't so much rooting for the white guy, as rooting for the country.

*New Sight And Sound also good on suggesting Ferris Beullers Day Off is just as appropiate as best film ever Citizen Kane.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

The neat thing about this film is it may be the only Oscar film with a scene that echoes Cannibal Ferox.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was amused by the implication that McAvoy's unthinking nationalism and Scottish chippiness manifests itself as an anti-English and unthinking pro-Independence stance which leads him to massive political and moral miscalculations. Clearly the subtext of the film is that an independent Scotland would be as morally dubious as the Amin regime.

alext (alext), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't read the s&s piece but the WHITE PEOPLES line also gets an airing here in the guardian:

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,1993018,00.html

i don't know what to make of this sort of stuff:

"Amin is believed to have killed at least 300,000 people - but does that give carte blanche to the film-makers to play to some of the worst stereotypes of corrupt, murderous, incompetent and ridiculous black leaders?"

oh man, will they ever stop stereotyping historical figures?

"Moviegoers want to watch people they are interested in: themselves [O RLY?]; and they demand the all-important catharsis at the end of a film to provide them with a new understanding about who they are [O RLY?]. And since the majority of the western film-going public is white, then that self on screen must also be white."

"Little light is shed on Amin himself. Granted, he has a few moments of paranoid vulnerability and an explanation for his behaviour - that he was mistreated by the British during his years in the army. But these are the darkest shades of grey. His black power rhetoric is dismissed as cheap talk to excuse his violence."

there's another kind of racism going on here.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

The Guardian article is a cheap shot: in particular the great line you've quoted about Amin being a "stereotype of a corrupt, murderous, incompetent and ridiculous blakc leader". Where does this steroetype come from. Oh yes, the black leaders of the sixties and seventies, OF WHOM AMIN IS ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS!!!

Actually the film is much clearer that Amin is able to get into this position with British backing, who then flip-flop. Whilst I tend to agree that the white protagonist in African story trope is often regretable, you cannot disregard the effect of white post-colonial meddling (and money) in the area. McAvoy's Garrigan is not a hero, and pays a price (though perhaps not as bad as many others) for his fannying around.

Whittaker is seductive though, which is why this is a massive step forward from previous Western portrayals of Amin. So of course the film is flawed but it clearly has thought about these flaws. It uses the cinema language of films about Africa intelligently and knowingly (there are hallucination sequences which are hokey, but not unlike Shaft In Africa, and the Deep Throat moment follows directly after to contextualise it I think). Could we also complain that the film is predominantly in English and the main actors are American or English. Of course we can. Film making is a trade off, and whilst it is fine we can have articles like this pointing it out, the fact that the film exists is better than it not existing I reckon.

(Also: Hotel Rwanda. Hero of which is black, plainly ignored in this rundown.)

Pete (Pete), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

Watched this on Friday, really liked it.
Only thing that put me off a little was McAvoy's character at the start of the film, bit cocky.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 22 January 2007 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Is it me or is McAvoy in absolutely everything now? Also everything seems to be brought to us from the makers of Shameless.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 22 January 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Fine with me – he's certainly easy on the eyes, even in faun makeup.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 22 January 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

anyone ever seen the doc General Idi Amin Dada?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

(Also: Hotel Rwanda. Hero of which is black, plainly ignored in this rundown.)

Word. It preemptively makes itself plainly the best of all the Rwanda films, with all the others seemingly having whitey running around trying to save Africa.

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Monday, 22 January 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

it's fun throwing round words like 'whitey'. isn't pete's point that (whitaker or cheadle) these are american actors more to the point?

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 22 January 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

i liked the film a lot. and yes, i thought mcavoy's character was crucial. he's supposed to be based on three or four real-life people anyway. the fact he haphazardly comes to uganda simply to get away from his homelife, completely oblivious of the political situation means that it assumes no previous audience knowledge.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 22 January 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone seen "Amin : The Rise And Fall" then? Apparently a trash classic, doesn't seem to be available these days though.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Monday, 22 January 2007 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

There was a PAL release on DVD by Parc Video a couple of years ago, out of print now. It's up on pirate bay, though.

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

this movie, shooting dogs, blood diamond = three movies about atrocities in africa released this year, all of which feature white protags who witness the badness and are ultimately redeemed by it. andrew has a point.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

McAvoy's character is not redeemed here. He is just a silly, silly boy. Indeed the film is very good at not witnessing the badness, just acknowledging it, implicating the audience cleverly in much the same dilemma Garrigan feels he has found himself in.

Unfortunately his pubperpetuality means that the timescale over which the film is set (about five years) is a touch obscured.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

The book handles timescale (and plausibility) better because it doesn't feel the need to link Garrigan directly to so many significant events. Also, escaping in a boat across the lake is a whole a lot easier. Still a bit puzzled by why the film pumped up the Scottish content so much, but I might be mis-remembering the book on this.

alext (alext), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

he's totally redeemed! he gets to go home and tell the world to atone for his complicity! an african guy even dies so that he might live!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I was a little surprised at that I must admit.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 09:15 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but he doesn't "tell the world" does he (crucially because he is not real - but equally because doing the right thing in this kind of way is not in his character). Obv shouldn't read outside the text, but the stupid self sacrifice of the other doctor is barely redemption.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

I generally thought this was very good, though the transistion to thriller in the third act, complete with big cheesy orchestral score, wasn't as smooth as it could have been. Garrigan was a well-realised character in that he was behaving pretty unpleasantly and irresponsibly, but you could totally understand why he was behaving that way to the extent that you never completely lost sympathy for him. Kay's mutilated corpse was one of the most disturbing images I've seen in a film for some time.

chap (chap), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but he doesn't "tell the world" does he (crucially because he is not real - but equally because doing the right thing in this kind of way is not in his character). Obv shouldn't read outside the text, but the stupid self sacrifice of the other doctor is barely redemption.

-- Pete (pb1...), January 23rd, 2007 11:10 AM. (Pete) (later)

doesn't the other the doctor urge him to go so he can tell the world??

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but in my view, he doesn't tell the world. He goes home, gets patched up and lives in terror in the middle of nowhere in Scotland. And maybe even ages!

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

How much of this is actually based on his book, I wonder?

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

Kay's mutilated corpse was one of the most disturbing images I've seen in a film for some time.

OTM - Couldn't believe it was 15 here but I've learned that the censor's office is a fickle thing!

How much of this is actually based on his book, I wonder?

It's based in Uganda, a yound scottish doctor meets Idi, things go wrong. That's about it really, it's in the details that it really differs!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

I think censors take into account whether or not horrible scenes are gratuitous, which this one wasn't.

Another thing - Gillian Anderson was terrific in the few bits she was in.

chap (chap), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

So she was, actually.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

terrific hooky ending

urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh, did you have to put it that way?

Nevertheless, I thought this film was absolutely phenomenal. After it finished I just stared silently at the screen for five minutes. It was done in a brilliantly modern style, with a soundtrack that mixed in a bit of everything, electro pulses meeting tribal dance, with some AWESOME acting all-round, a great story, and most importantly one of the most gripping final hours I've seen in film.

Best bit? McAvoy's phone conversation with Anderson, when you can hear a baby crying during McAvoy's segments. The conversation ends, we cut to Anderson, and the baby's crying there rather than at the big central hospital.

The scenes of torture and mutilation were just horrifying, and if this is rated 15, well, no film should be 18, frankly.

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

Soundtrack arrived. Orchestral bits a bit Hollywood but the rest of it? Fantastic!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...
Another thing - Gillian Anderson was terrific in the few bits she was in.


Thirded. The whole relationship between her character and Garrigan was a little gem in the film. I've rarely seen an older woman/younger man thing handled so believably. The infidelity, and the the parting - subtly brilliant.

I used to work with the book's author Giles Foden. He had a little cameo as the journalist asking questions at the press conference.

Alba, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

I'm reading this Giles Foden book at the moment. It's good fun.

chap, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2167426,00.html

quite stoked for this, loved the series.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

retain bill nighy tho.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

My initial kneejerk reaction from the trailer: Enormous African drama made 'accessible' by presence of white dude - fuck no!

I have been thinking about this standard criticism - one towards which I am normally sympathetic. It strikes me, though, that as a plot device having a stupid foreigner to whom everything has to be explained is probably better than a lot of "as you and I know" dialogue.

I've also thought a bit more about the novel, and a lot of that is about being a foreigner in Uganda, that sense of not really knowing what is going on in the place. The film had that a bit. I reckon you would have lost that if the main character had been, say, a Ugandan hotellier or something. But maybe that is something you would want to lose.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

Nighy is still there, I believe.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

I was amused by the implication that McAvoy's unthinking nationalism and Scottish chippiness manifests itself as an anti-English and unthinking pro-Independence stance which leads him to massive political and moral miscalculations. Clearly the subtext of the film is that an independent Scotland would be as morally dubious as the Amin regime.
-- alext (alext), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:56 (8 months ago) Link

the first sentence is correct, the last sentence is wrong. mcavoy is naive but at the same time right that the english are conniving bastards. it is still a miscalculation on his part. but does that suggest an independent scotland would be "as morally dubious as the amin regime", ie murdering hundreds of thousands of people? not really.

thought it was an okay with an obviously terrific performance from FW, but the transition to thriller (gets kay pregnant + enlisted to assassinate amin -- bit much) was kind of weak. the final bits of him getting tortured, then let down, then rescued, were really bad. they should have just had him posing as an israeli and freed by the commandos, if they wanted a climax like that.

and while this was standard fare (i guess) at the same time mcavoy didn't really learn anything. he didn't earn his freedom and remained a callow young idiot. even though entebbe was what? '76? five years after he arrived there.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 7 October 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2215791,00.html

blimey

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 23 November 2007 09:04 (eighteen years ago)


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