This was not a deliberate strategy. I quite glad it's gone, but should I have stayed "true to my roots" etc etc?
― Anna, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Never 'ad to luv. Estuary English is wot I born speakin'. I speak it too fast mind.
― Pete, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Emma, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
But I do think that was a typo.
Honest.
― N., Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
However to return to the question, I am always surprised how quickly people manage to lose their accents. Or is it because I stop noticing them. TV might have something to do with this.
I feel very foolish now.
― Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I don't sound as posh as I am, except on the phone.
― Tom, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
For tragedy of losing ones own accent one should look no further than Terry Stamp in the Limey. A real cockney lad unable to do it anymore. Embaressing.
It's too late to try to make it up to Anna now.
(although I have just messed up *another* post on another thread)
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― DG, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
This must be what happened to me. Although I have just proved I can look stupid without any assistance from vile West Midlands nasal accent.
― jel, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I won't be living in Dublin all my life though so theres always hope.
― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ellie, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I bet this post is still spelt better than Pete's. (Only teezin, fella! ;-)). Don't listen to 'em, Anna.
Hey - they're playing Bacharach in the Internet café!
― Will, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ally C, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
And I do not sound like newf.
― Mr Noodles, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
i hear myself as sounding quite gauche, born into a shrill bogan family, having had elocution lessons. so i'm still loud and crass, only now i pronounce rude words correctly and project.
― di, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Seriously, my parents have told me that I'm starting to sound more and more like a New Yorker. Precisely how a New York accent differs from a New Jersey accent escapes me. Especially since the stereotypical New Jersey accent is a parody of the Brooklyn accent.
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
That's why they call it 'Estuary'
― David Inglesfield, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I suppose Estuary's tentacles are reaching out...plus maybe a lot of people move to seaside towns from London and environs. Tracy Emin's very Estuary and she's from Margate, but I'm not sure if her accent is an assumed one.
― RickyT, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― rosemary, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I have been made aware how twangy my accent gets at times, and though I think it sounds pretty annoying and dumb somehow I think I'll just stick with it. The alternative would be ending up like Madonna, and having the most phony-ass British accent in the world seems a lot less attractive than even my accent.
― Nicole, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― toraneko, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
No - I'm not convincing anyone am I? Embarress is the word I spell wrong the most often. How embarressing.
― Pete, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anna, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― chris, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Emma, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― gareth, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Pah! They are all ganging up on me. I can't help it if she goes to bed five hours before me. Though when I am keeping her up singing it is invariably with cockerney classics like "Roll Out The Barrel" or "My Old Man".
― Tom, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I always thought they were kisses! Another childhood illusion shattered.
― N., Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
New thread for this discussion though maybe?
That puts accents into perspective, I must say. And will confuse everyone who can't remember what I was rambling about on the Oxford Tube approach to Shepherds Bush on Monday night, I supose.
― Sarah, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
self-hatred is nagl
Unlearning to Tawk Like a New Yorker
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/21/nyregion/21accent.html?_r=1&src=ISMR_HP_LO_MST_FB
― buzza, Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:22 (fourteen years ago)
WTF. I want to a) slap these people or b) maybe hug them so they don't hate themselves.
Love NY accents!!! Any accent, pretty great IMO but jeez, therapy?
I mean, I get that it can be alienating, I got tired of being stopped mid-sentence when I first moved here from Oz, but theres also the joy of *not* sounding like everyone else. You gotta own it is all. If it's sending you to therapy it's probably not the accent that's the reason imo
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Saturday, 20 November 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago)
I kinda regret that my southern accent went away once I moved to Florida from Georgia. It wasn't a conscious decision, it just faded over time.
― the coffee of coffees (corey), Saturday, 20 November 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago)
Mine has definitely faded, but people still notice it which makes me happy. Also if I talk to Mum on the phone for any length of time, or watch an Australian movie: whoosh! It's back! Mr Veg laughs sometimes how quickly it comes back, it's pretty cool.
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Saturday, 20 November 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago)
I sound like your typical droney mumble-teen. Honestly I think as far as the States go, unless you live in rural parts, if you're a city-dweller you sound just like everybody else in the nation. Moving from California to Colorado as a kid, the only noticable difference I ever experienced between dialects is that old women referred to soda as "pop".
― Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Saturday, 20 November 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago)
Which is total bullshit because it's clearly meant to be called soda.
― Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Saturday, 20 November 2010 04:24 (fourteen years ago)
Honestly I think as far as the States go, unless you live in rural parts, if you're a city-dweller you sound just like everybody else in the nation.
what??
― the business class edition of the ronaldinho bottle opener thread (sarahel), Saturday, 20 November 2010 04:36 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno, I have a friend who grew up in LA before moving to SF and you can definitely hear her LA, Moon-Unit Zappa Valley Girl "fer sure" thing even now, 20 years after the fact. Not ott, but it's there.
I hear accents all the time, I think it's amusing when people say they dont have them
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Saturday, 20 November 2010 04:53 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah but girls I've met from everywhere have that faux-Valley Girl thing going on... it spreads thru television (not trying to be deep here, but just saying, mass-communication = mass accent). 70% of all the women I ever meet drop at least 14 "likes" in a 9 word sentence.
― Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Saturday, 20 November 2010 04:55 (fourteen years ago)
i used to be able to tell the difference between halifax, keighley, bradford, dewsbury, leeds and wakefield accents. then i moved to london and now they've merged into one:/
― cherry blossom, Saturday, 20 November 2010 09:43 (fourteen years ago)
Think I still have most of my Irish accent but I guess when you're in England you can't speak in as relaxed a manner if you want people to understand, so you get a bit more neutral. I find when I'm home it's nice and relaxing to be able to mumble more and soften everything up.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 20 November 2010 10:34 (fourteen years ago)
I have about three different accents depending on who I'm speaking to. I have a broad Inverness accent when I'm speaking to my family/am drunk, a hybrid West of Scotland/Inverness accent most of the time, and a posh-ish polite version of the hybrid one for when I'm at work. My own husband has failed to recognise my voice when I answer the phone at work.
― ailsa, Saturday, 20 November 2010 11:05 (fourteen years ago)
I don't have any sort of regional american accent though I'm probably guilty of the faux valley girl thing to some extent. When I lived in England I guess I picked up some sort of accent without realizing it because American friends I talked to would comment on how "cute" my accent was and when I moved back here after a couple months and lost it my English friends would all comment on how American I sounded. To be honest this wasn't something I did consciously and I sort of cringe at the thought that I may have sounded like some Madonna weirdo but to some extent I guess picking up new ways of speaking depending on where you live is inevitable.
― master of retardment (ENBB), Saturday, 20 November 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago)
i vary depending on who i'm speaking with tbh. have collected accents since childhood due to a lot of moving round.
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 November 2010 13:18 (fourteen years ago)
i've never had an accent, even after living in the south for over half of my life.
― glengarry glenn danzig (latebloomer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
i do use "y'all" quite a bit though, since it is a useful word and rolls off the toungue quite easily
― glengarry glenn danzig (latebloomer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
rolls off the tongue, too
― glengarry glenn danzig (latebloomer), Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
wait, why am i concerned about spelling on a thread called "loosing your accent"?
I think watching some guy from Pittsburgh talking to a trolley and multi-colored Muppets with semi-NYC accents helped shape my accent.
I started to try to lose it when I was 10, after I decided I would be a radio DJ as an adult.
In Minnesota, I was told twice by employers they thought I was black on the phone. That says probably more about those people than it does my faint Southern accent.
As I've gotten older and since I'm not in radio anymore, I think it's coming back.
It really shows up when I'm talking with other drivers in other cars who can't hear me.
― http://tinyurl.com/koalalala (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
I get asked if I'm English all the time. I'm happier if they guess NZ, since that's at least the right hemisphere, lol.
Got asked once if I was German. (?!) The man was genuinely annoyed when I said I was Australian
I work with a lovely woman from Manchester who got asked if she was from New Orleans. Lol!
ignorance + inability to effectively use the flaps on either side of their head = amusing results
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Saturday, 20 November 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
I have encountered a frightening number of people who do not know that NZ is not "part" of Australia. :(
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Saturday, 20 November 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
Weirdest one I ever got was in Sydney when a waitress heard me order and then asked, "Tornoto?"
Maybe my "speaking to be understood" voice sounds like Dave Foley.
― http://tinyurl.com/koalalala (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 20 November 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago)
PP I remember hearing you on one of the vids either you or SS posted on FB of the kids and being surprised at how strong your accent was. I thought it was awesome, btw.
― ENBB, Saturday, 20 November 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
man, that nytimes article is a bummer. the terry gross "i am trying very hard not to sound like i'm from new york and therefore don't know how i'm supposed to say anything" voice is the worst.
― circles, Saturday, 20 November 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
i always thought NZers who came back to NZ with american accents after a year or two were total dickfaces, but now i realise that you kinda of have to develop a bit of an american edge - mostly just pronouncing your Rs, which NZers don't do at all - in order to be understood.
― just1n3, Saturday, 20 November 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
Ha well thanks Erica. Three years of living in the Midwest + 11 years of pronouncing words correctly for a living down the drain.
― http://tinyurl.com/koalalala (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 20 November 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago)
Justin3, yep exactly. I used to have to call & give order totals to customers:"your total is Ait hundred and fawteen dollars""what?""ait hundred and fawteen dollars""what is 'ait'?""um. ( puts on American drawl) Eight hundrd and fourteen dollars""thank you!"-actual conversation. It gets tiring, lol
― That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Saturday, 20 November 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
Me every time I order "water" =(
― ralph NAGLer (admrl), Saturday, 20 November 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
Honestly I think as far as the States go, unless you live in rural parts, if you're a city-dweller you sound just like everybody else in the nation. Moving from California to Colorado as a kid, the only noticable difference I ever experienced between dialects is that old women referred to soda as "pop".
OMG, I do not agree, as far as the Northeast and Great Lakes/Midwest go.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 November 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago)
The differences just between cities in NY state are pretty impressive imo.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 November 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago)
i have more or less that non-descript middle American newscaster accent, and when I did radio in Providence, I was very self-conscious about not sounding like a native.
― sarahel, Sunday, 21 November 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, veggrrrrl i had one lady tell me i sounded like i was "barely speaking english". i almost punched her.
― just1n3, Sunday, 21 November 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago)
one of my coworkers is pretty damn cockney and part of his job is speaking on the telephone to people whose first language is spanish. this = lols
― mookieproof, Sunday, 21 November 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago)
I've always been amazed at how many regional accents britain has. the country seems pretty small
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Sunday, 21 November 2010 01:04 (fourteen years ago)
Until I was 11 I had a typical Worcester (England) accent, then I got an assisted place at a public school and found it easier to avoid being bullied for being "common" by adopting a sort of RP accent, in doing so I basically lost my real accent. When I left school I made an extremely embarrassing-to-me-now attempt to get back my "real voice" but I just ended up sounding like I was doing a bad impression of a Brummy so I gave up on that. So now I guess I have a sort of hybrid Worcester/RP accent.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 21 November 2010 01:29 (fourteen years ago)
"So where in the Netherlands are you from?""I'm Irish, actually"
This happened in Dublin.
― seandalai, Sunday, 21 November 2010 02:42 (fourteen years ago)
Ha.
After three years, I was so used to hearing the Western NY twang that when I moved back to Canada, someone in my department mentioned something about "active tones" and I thought he meant "octave tones". "Stacking" sounded momentarily like "stocking", "black" like "block", etc.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 November 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_cities_vowel_shift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UoJ1-ZGb1w
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Sunday, 21 November 2010 03:57 (fourteen years ago)