False "madrassa" story about Barack Obama

And people have a problem with Jade?

Maybe they could dig up something in foreign referring to Obama as a talib and claim he was in the Taliban.

wtf

You do realize you've just ruined your shot at the White House.

...and yes Marcello, we have a problem with Jade.

lol fantasy world

Debbie Schlussel, who fights Muslims with the same passion she brings to her battles against unauthorized use of the airbrushed photo she uses on her website, has publicly accused Barack Obama of being a Muslim Manchurian Candidate. "Is a man who Muslims think is a Muslim, who feels some sort of psychological need to prove himself to his absent Muslim father, and who is now moving in the direction of his father's heritage, a man we want as President when we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam? Where will his loyalties be?"

Schlussel has a point--It would be very dangerous to have a President who wanted to prove himself to his absent Muslim father. It is important that an American President feel the psychological need to prove himself to a present Christian father.

WAHT?

(Xenophobic attacks can work on someone like a congressperson from Minnesota, tapping into everyone's fear that subversives might be slowly infiltrating government from the bottom up, blah blah blah, but I think Obama's well past the point of public recognition where you can pretend to suddenly "discover" he's a Muslim radical.)

This was mentioned in a private discussion elsewhere today -- it's a good observation I hadn't thought of before, but I'm not totally sold on your conclusion.

So yeah, trolling Townhall or CNS or WND or RenewAmerica for "obama" always results in lolz.

I cosign with Michael Bay.

But I do think there's a level of saturation and reknown you can reach where these sorts of implications just don't work as well, and Obama's up there enough that a lot of them just aren't going to take as well. People are ready to believe a politician is a liar, a cheat, or a swindler, but once people recognize him to a certain extent, you need something pretty solid to suddenly say he's a subversive in disguise.

Obama's good at smiling right past this kind of stuff, too -- cf the "this is my house, too" zinger.

-We have this where the guy talks about how the minorities will vote for him since "minorities will only see a minority, and not an unqualified candidate"

-This guy going on at length to attack Rick Warren, apparently just since the guy dared to have Obama come speak
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Oh the other hand, you have K-Lo writing a pretty supportive bit here, just dropping in this bit

Now the father of two daughters, Obama's focusing on more than his familial responsibilities. Sounding more like a social conservative than a liberal Democrat -- he lauds welfare reform, teen-pregnancy prevention, and just stops short of speaking the right-wing language of personal responsibility and abstinence.

'cuz lib'ruls are all about nuthin' but fuckin' n' abortin', y'see.

But hey, if this is the kinda mental gymnastics she has to put herself thru to come out in support of the guy, so be it.

Leaving aside the douchebaggery of this, it's seriously untrue: among black people, Obama's going to have to do a lot of work negotiating his perception -- he's biracial, and he's immigrant-African, not descendant-of-slaves African, two things that can spark vague resentment when you're successful (and congratulated on being a successful black man). (Obviously failure to recognize this has to do with the original douchebaggery of the statement, but whatever.)

This is akin to instances where people hear about the paper bag test and go, "But why??? I mean, you're still a ni- I mean, black!"

Now, it seems I heard a lot of these superlatives applied to another recent contender for the White House in 2008. With the exception of being black, former Senator John Edwards was feted with much the same.

LOL at dude who doesn't even know what "superlatives" means thinking he has any business deciding who's qualified.

see, you shouldn't publicly call out a mod for language person problems, because we can edit posts post-post, and make you look like an old crazy person

but I should've also fixed ethan's, I see now. I'M A DICK PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY POWERS

Jess Harvell never would have done this kind of handwringing about mod abuse!

Bigoted Minnesota Lady has saved the Republic

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/astral66/2008/11/obama-on-separation-of-church.php

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82503

OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Imaging guru: 'Certification' of birth time, location is fake
'It would be hard to perform as president from behind jail cell door at Leavenworth'
Posted: December 01, 2008
10:20 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A document expert contends the "Certification of Live Birth" Barack Obama's campaign posted online to rebut charges the president-elect fails the Constitution's natural-born citizen requirement is criminally fraudulent.

The Obama campaign has told WND such allegations are "garbage," but Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in instructional media specializing in computer technology such as printers, scanners and digital imaging, disagrees. His analyses have been posted online in a YouTube video, which also is embedded here:

Polarik explained to WND his four months of research on the images, including nearly 1,000 test images using actual scans and photographs of real certificates, indicate there are several "giveaways" on the image itself. For example, the document has gray and white between the lettering, not green pixels as the rest of the background document, suggesting someone cut-and-pasted or typed new information that was embedded on top of the background.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. and thus a "natural born American" as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution? If you still want to see it, sign WND's petition demanding the release of his birth certificate.

Also, Polarik said although the Obama form has a border like that used in Hawaii in 2007, the seal is like that used in 2006 or 2008, but not 2007. His full report is posted at Polarik.blogtownhall.com.

In Polarik's view, there has to be a significant reason for a political candidate and campaign to go to such lengths.

"Obviously, there's something very critical to hide, or they wouldn't have spent the million dollars in legal fees to prevent the release of his original birth certificate," Polarik told WND.

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"There's absolutely something to hide," he said. "If he was born in Hawaii they would have had a luau that would be continuing today.

"Not that the people who voted for him would care," he said, "but they used this forged document to convince the American voters.

"It's a scary thought to have someone who essentially begins his presidency as a criminal," he said, because the use of a faked document as identification is, in fact, a crime, he noted.

"It would be hard to perform as president from behind jail cell door at Leavenworth," he said.

The video has Polarik's face and voice disguised, and he confirmed to WND he's using an assumed name because of the threats. Independent verification of his credentials was not immediately available.

Polarik said the issue of the birth location is a "chink" in Obama's armor, but the Democrat also has declined to release information about his college years, about his selective service and about his passports, including on what nation's passport he traveled to Pakistan two decades ago when it was illegal to go there as a U.S. citizen.

Polarik describes his findings and conclusions on the video.

Polarik's conclusions were disputed, however, by another blog, the Hackerfactor.com.

Writer Neal Krawetz argues the "missing green" is a result of the compression algorithm used to generate the image. He also insists there's no validity to alarms over the border, because "we don't know the history of the actual image (was this a scan converted to JPEG, resaved as another JPEG, etc.). What we do know is that the image is at a very low quality, and JPEG loses fine details when saved at a low quality."

"I and other analysts have been unable to identify any sign of digital manipulation," the blogger wrote.

He also said Polarik is just "wrong" about the seal issue, and he addressed the second-fold dispute.

"I must admit that I do not see the second fold. However, I have scanned many pieces of folded paper and not seen folds (scanners pick up color, not texture)," Krawetz wrote.

Meanwhile, Dan Purdy of Forensic Document Examination Services Inc. told WND that the origins of the Internet images aren't known. He raised questions over whether the "original" was a photocopy, the equipment used to create the digital image and the compression processes of the various formats.

Those factors, he wrote, "make it exceedingly difficult to properly interpret fine details in the image."

WND columnist Janet Porter has written extensively about the birth certification issue.

"Look, we're not asking for the world here. Neither is the Constitution. Some pretty basic requirements like being 35 years old, having 14 years residency in the United States, and being a natural born citizen. When Senator John McCain was questioned about it, he showed his birth certificate without hesitating. When Barack Obama was asked by courts including the U.S. Supreme Court, he ducked and hid behind the right to privacy," she writes.

"Ironically, when Obama was running for the State Senate, he won by disqualifying every candidate who ran against him in the primary, including a guy who had been through a nasty and salacious divorce. Even though he had a small child who could be hurt by the information being made public, a court decided that the public's right to know; outweighed this poor fella's right to privacy, and he backed out. Obama clings to the 'right to privacy' regarding his own qualifications, just not his opponents."

She also noted the issue won't go away, and recommended a visit to ObamaForgery.com to review what's happening.

"These are the facts," she wrote. "The Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen. Obama's grandmother said she was there when Barack was born in Kenya. Obama refuses to release his original birth certificate. Instead of a birth certificate, Obama's campaign posted a certification given to those born abroad. Experts have called even that document an 'obvious forgery.'"

"Our Constitution still matters," she said.

Her group, Faith2Action, is working on funding for the purchase of time for a new television ad on the issue.

In the Philadelphia Bulletin, constitutional lawyer Edwin Vieira said a multitude of problems could result.

"Let's assume he wasn't born in the U.S.," Vieira told the newspaper. "What's the consequence? He will not be eligible. That means he cannot be elected validly. The people and the Electoral College cannot overcome this and the House of Representatives can't make him president. So what's the next step? He takes the oath of office, and assuming he's aware he's not a citizen, then it's a perjured oath.

The "eligible" President-elect Obama

"He may have nominated people to different positions; he may have nominated people to the judicial branch, who may have been confirmed, they may have gone out on executive duty and done various things," said Vieira. "The people that he's put into the judicial branch may have decided cases, and all of that needs to be unzipped."

"Let's say we go a year into this process, and it all turns out to be a flim-flam," he told the newspaper. "What's the nation's reaction to that? What's going to be the reaction in the next U.S. election? God knows. It has almost revolutionary consequences, if you think about it."

He continued, "[The birth certificate], in theory, should be there. What if it isn't? Who knows, aside from Mr. Obama? Does Russian intelligence know it isn't there? Does Chinese intelligence know it isn't there? Does the CIA know that it isn't there? Who is in a position to blackmail this fellow?"

Vieira expressed confidence Obama eventually will be forced to produce documentation.

"Let's assume that an Obama administration passes some of these controversial pieces of legislation he has been promising to go for, like the FOCA (Freedom of Choice) Act," he told the newspaper. "I would assume that some of those surely will have some severe civil or criminal penalties attached to them for violation. You are now the criminal defendant under this statute, which was passed by an Obama Congress and signed by President Obama. Your defense is that is not a statute because Mr. Obama is not the president. You now have a right and I have never heard this challenged, to subpoena in a criminal case, anyone who has relevant evidence relating to your defenses. And you can subpoena them duces tecum, meaning 'you shall bring with you the documents.'"

WND founder and editor Joseph Farah has launched a program to allow concerned voters to express their desire directly to the U.S. Supreme Court for the issue to be resolved.

A conference among the justices is scheduled Friday on a New England challenge to Obama's eligibility.

"The case is brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the New Jersey secretary of state, and questions whether Obama is a 'natural-born citizen' as required by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution," Farah reported.

"It would seem a simple matter to resolve," he said. "Barack Obama could have put this issue to rest long ago by producing a complete birth certificate from Hawaii. Instead, he has chosen to stonewall the matter, citing a website post of what can only be characterized as a partial representation of a birth certificate – one that has been criticized as a forgery.

"Meanwhile, some of Obama's own Kenyan relatives claim to have been present at his birth in Mombasa. This controversy, which some have dismissed as frivolous, is as serious as the literal meaning of the Constitution itself."

The nation's Electoral College, the process through which Obama is to be formally voted as the next president, will meet Dec. 15, and his inaugural is scheduled Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, more than 125,000 have signed WND's petition seeking full disclosure of Obama's information.

The petition cites the U.S. Constitution's requirement that no one can be sworn into office as president without being a natural born citizen. It also asserts there are questions about Obama's reported Hawaii birth, that the Democrat has refused repeated calls to document his birth, that activist judges have declined to require him to shed light on the issue and that Hawaii – at the time of Obama's birth – allowed parents whose children were born in other locations to register the birth there.

WND's petition is available online, and more information is available at this link.

holy crap

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/DOT-COMPARO.jpg

"chink"

Poi dog pondering:

"If he was born in Hawaii they would have had a luau that would be continuing today."

Exactly. If there's nothing to hide, then WHERE IS THE LUAU!??!??!

http://www.labelthatdoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mattel43.png

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/12/coverup-mattels.html

if yall were worried, "dr polarik" is a flag apptly

http://hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/235-Bad-Science-How-Not-To-Do-Image-Analysis-Part-II.html

flag??

wtf, a fraud

can we stop calling things that are trolls names besides troll

he's a flag apptly

flag to the bone

cmon guyz this is totally real

PLZ More GOP people wasting time on shit like this.

true, we don't have to always link 'em, but it's funny sometimes

look at this fukkin evidence
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/FactCheck-Originals/FCOV/birth_certificate_5-lines3sm.jpg

altho the Chambliss win really makes a lot of shit for me unfunny.

And it's not because we didn't make 60, it's because Chambliss is a creepy horrible motherfucker

where is the one that's like MUSLIM?: AS HELL or whatever

dogg look at this gif i made... look at it
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/FactCheck-Originals/FCOV/stamp.gif

holy shit, is that Muslim language at the bottom of dat, no wai

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11047

I just lolled at Superallah

Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.

Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain (and) USA Govt." The plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."

grady knock it off

Op-Ed Contributor
The Real Bill Ayers
By WILLIAM AYERS
Published: December 5, 2008

IN the recently concluded presidential race, I was unwillingly thrust upon the stage and asked to play a role in a profoundly dishonest drama. I refused, and here’s why.

Unable to challenge the content of Barack Obama’s campaign, his opponents invented a narrative about a young politician who emerged from nowhere, a man of charm, intelligence and skill, but with an exotic background and a strange name. The refrain was a question: “What do we really know about this man?”

Secondary characters in the narrative included an African-American preacher with a fiery style, a Palestinian scholar and an “unrepentant domestic terrorist.” Linking the candidate with these supposedly shadowy characters, and ferreting out every imagined secret tie and dark affiliation, became big news.

I was cast in the “unrepentant terrorist” role; I felt at times like the enemy projected onto a large screen in the “Two Minutes Hate” scene from George Orwell’s “1984,” when the faithful gathered in a frenzy of fear and loathing.

With the mainstream news media and the blogosphere caught in the pre-election excitement, I saw no viable path to a rational discussion. Rather than step clumsily into the sound-bite culture, I turned away whenever the microphones were thrust into my face. I sat it out.

Now that the election is over, I want to say as plainly as I can that the character invented to serve this drama wasn’t me, not even close. Here are the facts:

I never killed or injured anyone. I did join the civil rights movement in the mid-1960s, and later resisted the draft and was arrested in nonviolent demonstrations. I became a full-time antiwar organizer for Students for a Democratic Society. In 1970, I co-founded the Weather Underground, an organization that was created after an accidental explosion that claimed the lives of three of our comrades in Greenwich Village. The Weather Underground went on to take responsibility for placing several small bombs in empty offices — the ones at the Pentagon and the United States Capitol were the most notorious — as an illegal and unpopular war consumed the nation.

The Weather Underground crossed lines of legality, of propriety and perhaps even of common sense. Our effectiveness can be — and still is being — debated. We did carry out symbolic acts of extreme vandalism directed at monuments to war and racism, and the attacks on property, never on people, were meant to respect human life and convey outrage and determination to end the Vietnam war.

Peaceful protests had failed to stop the war. So we issued a screaming response. But it was not terrorism; we were not engaged in a campaign to kill and injure people indiscriminately, spreading fear and suffering for political ends.

I cannot imagine engaging in actions of that kind today. And for the past 40 years, I’ve been teaching and writing about the unique value and potential of every human life, and the need to realize that potential through education.

I have regrets, of course — including mistakes of excess and failures of imagination, posturing and posing, inflated and heated rhetoric, blind sectarianism and a lot else. No one can reach my age with their eyes even partly open and not have hundreds of regrets. The responsibility for the risks we posed to others in some of our most extreme actions in those underground years never leaves my thoughts for long.

The antiwar movement in all its commitment, all its sacrifice and determination, could not stop the violence unleashed against Vietnam. And therein lies cause for real regret.

We — the broad “we” — wrote letters, marched, talked to young men at induction centers, surrounded the Pentagon and lay down in front of troop trains. Yet we were inadequate to end the killing of three million Vietnamese and almost 60,000 Americans during a 10-year war.

The dishonesty of the narrative about Mr. Obama during the campaign went a step further with its assumption that if you can place two people in the same room at the same time, or if you can show that they held a conversation, shared a cup of coffee, took the bus downtown together or had any of a thousand other associations, then you have demonstrated that they share ideas, policies, outlook, influences and, especially, responsibility for each other’s behavior. There is a long and sad history of guilt by association in our political culture, and at crucial times we’ve been unable to rise above it.

President-elect Obama and I sat on a board together; we lived in the same diverse and yet close-knit community; we sometimes passed in the bookstore. We didn’t pal around, and I had nothing to do with his positions. I knew him as well as thousands of others did, and like millions of others, I wish I knew him better.

Demonization, guilt by association, and the politics of fear did not triumph, not this time. Let’s hope they never will again. And let’s hope we might now assert that in our wildly diverse society, talking and listening to the widest range of people is not a sin, but a virtue.

William Ayers, a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, is the author of “Fugitive Days” and a co-author of the forthcoming “Race Course.”

The bomb this set at Obsidian Wings is completely alienating to me.

waht

metaphorical bomb

wow awful unintentional pun sry

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/12/bill-ayers-plea.html

guys i'm still reading puma blogs. i don't get it, something must be wrong with me. they're so fascinating tho, so paranoid.

from noquarterusa.net, just now:

Comment by Obama: Dubya II - Electric Boogaloo | 2009-02-24 17:15:28

Can’t you see what’s coming down the pike? Holder’s rant on us being a nation of “cowards” shows that Obama is going to make a play for slavery reperations. Look at the Acorn lady on Fox, she really believe it’s an absolute right to take other’s (ie white people’s) money because they have it coming to them.

When the race war starts I guess we’ll have to see who the cowards are. Whether if this is Obama’s intention or not, prepared for more shit to hit the fan.

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Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-02-24 17:35:20

They can get theirs after reparations are made for the ones who made it possible for them to get their reparations in the first place-the Union soldiers. Their ancestors should be in first line for reparations.

Better yet, let’s just move along. This is really quite absurd.

it's just weird watching a group of ppl come up with this unstable hybrid of liberal and hard-right memes, on the spot, just because they like hillary clinton a whole bunch:

Comment by rw | 2009-02-24 17:42:02

It is possible that a good social outcome results from the economic meltdown: that Americans stop watching entertainment TV/stupid Hollywood features, that they stop getting knocked down at drinking holes, that they stop listening to devolution music, etc. and start getting serious about their lives and get involved in issues that directly affect their well being and their fellow citizens.

A friend in the art world once told that the wealthy have loopholes, the poor have government programs and the middle class pays for both. This is the incentive that this system has in having a large middle class. The top and the bottom eco. sectors are whores of the system, ethics and the implication of ethics is for the middle class.

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Comment by Doc99 | 2009-02-24 17:52:15

Obama, Pelosi and Reid want to party like it’s 1929!
Props to Prince.

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Comment by Docelder | 2009-02-24 18:05:20

The top and the bottom eco. sectors are whores of the system

That is rather well put. The top and the bottom have all the representation as well. The middle has no effective representation whatsoever and is just driven to either of the two existing parties mainly out of fear of the other. What it is… we are being herded, back and forth, in and out, much like cattle… or more aptly sheep.

dude why are you doing this to yourself??

i wish i knew!!

Props to Prince, tho

michael berube had a blog post somewhere back in the mists of the early 00s about liberals who 'switched sides' after 9/11, he had this thing he called the 'chappaquiddick test' (i think) basically arguing that a certain kind of person/pundit didn't just stay liberal and get really hawkish because of terrorism, they go whole hog into goofball right wing garbage about every other issue too. so if some former-dem type started cracking jokes about ted kennedy, you knew what you were looking at.

and this seems like kind of the same thing -- all these blogs are still flogging HRC's every plane trip of course, but also breathlessly going "omg you have to read what CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER and SOME DUDE ON GLENN BECK are saying about our fraudster in chief, very insightful!!"

i guess i'm trying to figure it all out. seems ample proof of the poli-sci canard that 97% of political affiliation is emotional tribal bs with a thin veneer of 'ideas' pasted over it

that they stop listening to devolution music

Animal Collective?

are you still reading Hillaryis44?

ha no, but that's a good'un

i check noquarter every now and again and just read shit they link to. i put in some respectable trolling about the whitey tape a couple times but it all got deleted.

http://www.mockazine.com/photos/coverart/obamanation.jpg
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8847/obamanation.jpg
http://travislyall.com/images/obamanation-1.jpg
http://husaria.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/obamanation.jpg
http://www.globaltruth.net/obamanation_dees.jpg

Diamond collar

Larry Sinclair, alleges coke, sex, and a limo with Obama

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/hatch_dees.jpg

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/birt_dees.jpg
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/limo_dees.jpg
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/queenmaker_dees.jpg
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/nunion_dees.jpg

REALLY disappointed that it doesn't say "BRITNEY DEFECATES NAFTA HIWAY"