The 22 Year Old Virgin

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Umm..yo.

I'm basically a 22 year old virgin. I'm also a guy btw. Intellectually, I know this isn't really a big deal but it feels like a big deal sometimes and it embarasses me a little and I sometimes feel insecure.

I don't want pity or anything, I don't want to dramatize this I just want to ask some questions:

1) I had one opportunity to have sex, I was twenty-one and I turned it down because it just didn't feel right. I wasn't in love with the girl and she was attractive but not drop-dead hot, I just felt wrong doing it, so I didn't do it.

I have recently hooked up with a different girl who is the same type, really nice, attractive but not my "type" emotionally or physically. I get the feeling that I will probably hook up with her again, and I can probably have sex with her if I want to, and I might, but I think I want to wait until I fall in love with a girl, or at least have her be so unbelievably hot that I just couldn't possibly resist.

Not long ago, I told a really nice, smart girl that I was a virgin after only knowing her for an hour or so, just because the topic sort of came up and I'm usually a very open and trusting person. She was immediately thrown off, and she didn't understand why I hadn't had sex when I explained to her my reasons which were part lack of opportunities and part "it not feeling right".

How abnormal is this? Are there any guys out there that can understand or personally relate to my experiences?

ps. I have done everything except vaginal sex and going down on a girl I'm not completely without sexual experience

2) Umm...one more question: Health class was a long time ago. I've never even put on a condom. Does a person need to wear a condom for oral sex? Is going without a condom if a girl is on the pill a bad idea? I just want to be safe and responsible.

Thanks a lot.

"Be gentle with me" ha ha

Jonny B. Goode (Colin Cassidy), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

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say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

Here we go again.

blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

MAKE IT STOP

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

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say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Have you ever held a carrier bag so high in the air that you thought maybe a gust of wind would come at any minute and just throw you into the air and that you might forget to let go of the handles and could end up in some whole other place where you dont know anybody and maybe you dont even speak the language and how would you get back but then you remember that its only a bag and the shops are not so far away and it isnt windy its raining and your hair is wet and then you feel a nostalgia for the time when you dreamt about how you might fly to another land just by holding onto a bag?

Storefront Church (688), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

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Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

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Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

Here we go again.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

ENJOY!

Latex Condoms for Oral Sex with Men? You Gotta Be Kidding!
Rick Sowadsky
January 1997

Let's start off with the good news . . . nobody has ever been infected with HIV by receiving oral sex (exposure to saliva). Not a single reported case worldwide!
However, it's time to face the truth when it comes to HIV and giving oral sex (exposure to pre-cum and semen). Yes, you can get HIV this way. There have already been cases reported of people becoming infected specifically through giving oral sex to a man. I personally know several gay men who became infected this way. They never had anal sex, never did drugs and never had a blood transfusion. But they did have guys' cum in their mouths. It's been known for quite some time that you can also get other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) like gonorrhea, or syphillis by giving oral sex. So giving a guy a blow-job is risky for HIV and other STDs. This is a proven fact.

If you read pamphlets about HIV and oral sex, you'll often read that you should use a latex condom while giving a guy a blow-job. Yeah, right! Telling guys to use latex condoms during oral sex looks great on paper. They do offer great protection against HIV and other STDs. But have you ever tasted a latex condom? If you haven't, get one out and lick it. Yuck! Let's face it . . . latex condoms taste gross!

So how can we get people to use latex condoms (or dental dams) during oral sex? Truth is, most folks won't. So how can you give a blow-job safely? Actually, there are ways of reducing your risk of infection while giving oral sex.

Let's start off with making condoms taste better. First of all, always use unlubricated condoms for oral sex. Lubricants were never made to be ingested. There are flavored condoms on the market which don't taste so bad. Kiss of Mint brand is probably the best example. But what if you can't find Kiss of Mint? What if you hate the taste of mint? Well, all you have to do is use any food item that isn't oil based, and put it on a latex condom. You can use honey, jam . . . hey, someone I know even used beer! You can use any food item that will cover the awful taste of latex, as long as it isn't oil-based. Using food for sex can also eroticize things with your partner.
You can use plastic condoms. These condoms, sold under the brand name Avanti are made out of a type of plastic called polyurethane. Since they're not made out of latex, they don't have that awful taste. But studies are still being done to see how well they protect against HIV and other STDs.
If you don't want to use condoms at all, at the very least, don't let the guy cum in your mouth. The less you allow pre-cum and semen to get in your mouth, the less your chance of infection.
And finally, "look before you lick." If you see any type of lesions, growths or discharge on the guy's penis, that's nature's way of telling you to hold off. These symptoms can be due to numerous STDs, and physical contact with them can lead to infection. A guy can have a disease and have no symptoms at all, but if you see something that doesn't belong there, don't touch it!
Of course having oral sex without protection will still have some element of risk, but looking before you lick and not letting the guy cum in your mouth will significantly reduce your risk. So if you love going down on a guy, but hate the taste of latex, you now have four ways of having safer sex.

Do you want more information on AIDS, STDs or safer sex? Contact the U.S. Centers for Disease Control AIDS hotline, open 24 hours a day, seven days a week, at 1-800-342-2437. Calling from outside the United States? Call 1-301-217-0023. Or visit The Body's Safe Sex and Prevention Forum.

Until next time . . . Work hard, play hard, play safe, stay sober!

Andi Headphones (Andi Headphones), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

MAKE IT STOP.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://theproblem.org/images/photos/silly/rerun.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

I say to myself--- sometimes, Clov, you must learn to suffer better than that if you want them to weary of punishing you--- one day. I say to myself--- sometimes, Clov, you must be better than that if you want them to let you go--- one day. But I feel too old, and too far, to form new habits. Good, it'll never end, I'll never go.
(Pause.)
Then one day, suddenly, it ends, it changes, I don't understand, it dies, or it's me, I don't understand that either. I ask the words that remain--- sleeping, waking, morning, evening. They have nothing to say.
(Pause.)
I open the door of the cell and go. I am so bowed I only see my feet, if I open my eyes, and between my legs a little trail of black dust. I say to myself that the earth is extinguished, though I never saw it lit.
(Pause.)
It's easy going.
(Pause.)
When I fall I'll weep for happiness.

say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

virginity is the new hair dye

Ed (dali), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

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blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

Here we go again.

blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

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IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN.

blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://theproblem.org/images/photos/silly/rerun.jpg

say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

Go to a doctor immediately, you have herpes.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

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Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

serious answers:

1. i'm not a guy, so i don't sympathize. but, um, don't have sex until you meet someone you want to have sex with!

2. and straight from health class and debates with catholics: you can give & get stds from oral sex and sex without a condom. so generally they are a good idea.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

don't have sex until you meet someone you want to have sex with!

I agree, but be aware that the first time is often a dissapointment (well, it was for me anyway), so don't get to the stage where you're building it up too much in your head.

chap (chap), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Thirty-nine today, sound as a bell, apart from my old weakness, and intellectually I have now every reason to suspect at the . . . (hesitates) . . . crest of the wave--or thereabouts. Celebrated the awful occasion, as in recent years, quietly at the winehouse. Not a soul. Sat before the fire with closed eyes, separation the grain from the husks. jotted down a few notes, on the back on an envelope. Good to be back in my den in my old rags. Have just eaten I regret to say three bananas and only with difficulty restrained a fourth. Fatal things for a man with my condition. (Vehemently.) Cut 'em out! (pause.) The new light above my table is a great improvement. With all this darkness around me I feel less alone. (Pause.) In a way. (Pause.) I love to get up and move about in it, then back here to . . . (hesitates) . . . me. (pause.) Krapp.

Pause.

The grain, now what I wonder do I mean by that, I mean . . . (hesitates) . . . I suppose I mean those things worth having when all the dust has--when all my dust has settled. I close my eyes and try and imagine them.

Pause. Krapp closes his eyes briefly.

Extraordinary silence this evening, I strain my ears and do not hear a sound. Old Miss McGlome always sings at this hour. But not tonight. Songs of her girlhood, she says. Hard to think of her as a girl. Wonderful woman, though. Connaught, I fancy. (Pause.) Shall I sing when I am her age, if I ever am? No. (Pause.) Did I sing as a boy? No. (Pause.) Did I ever sing? No.

Pause.

Just been listening to an old year, passaages at random. I did not check in the book, but it must be at least ten or twelve years ago. At that time I think I was still living on and off with Bianca in Kedar Street. Well out of that, Jesus yes! Hopeless business. (Pause.) Not much about her, apart from a tribute to her eyes. Very warm. I suddenly was them again. (Pause.) Incomparable! (Pause.) Ah well . . . (Pause.) These old P.M.s are gruesome, but I often find them--(Krapp switches off, broods, switches on)--a help before embarking on a new . . . (hestitates) . . . retrospect. Hard to believe I was ever that young whelp. The voice! Jesus! And the aspirations! (Brief laugh in which Krapp joins.) And the resolutions! (Brief laugh in which Krapp joins.) To drink less, in particular. (Brief laugh of Krapp alone.) Statistics. Seventeen hundred hours, out of the preceding eight thousand odd, consumed on licensed premises alone. More than 20%, say 40% of his waking life. (Pause.) Plans for a less . . . (hesitates) . . . engrossing sexual life. Last illness of his father. Flagging pursuit of happiness. Unattainable laxation. Sneers at what he calls his youth and thanks to God that it's over. (Pause.) False ring there. (Pause.) Shadows of the opus . . . magnum. Closing with a --(brief laugh)--yelp to Providence. (Prolonged laugh in which Krapp joins.) What remains of all that misery? A girl in a shabby green coat, on a railway-station platform? No?

say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

Do we have a thread category for this yet? Can we write an FAQ entry for it, maybe?

1.) Don't sweat not having sex. You're doing other stuff, so you probably don't have any weird intimacy problems, or anything.

2.) But if you feel really weird about it, I guess you could maybe think about whether your standards and expectations are unreasonable? High standards are good -- most guys have to mature up to only wanting to have sex with people they like -- but you can always double-check whether you're psyching yourself out.

3.) Chap OTM, plus also practice at sex doesn't hurt.

4.) Yeah, people should all technically be using condoms for blowjobs, and sadly enough, the fact that most people don't can't quite beat out the fact that, well, everyone probably should. Same with like dental dams and always driving the speed limit.

5.) WTF are you talking about, of course you should still use a condom even if she's on the pill -- pregnancy is not the only issue.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and 6.) dude it's not like you're that old or anything! I mean, but for a spare lucky chance or whatever, I think there are PLENTY of guys who could get to 22 still being virgins. There's not a huge difference between you and, you know, your friend who got laid once in 2004 and once last year but has been striking out all in-between.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, you are so rad
Sometimes I think about you
Holding me in bed

There was that one scene
In Back To The Future one
It was pretty good

Tightly, fist clenched, you
well, not actually you,
but McFly, hit Biff.

That voice, ha ha ha
ha I really like it but
ha ha I love you.

You must have touched him
Keanu is no Crispin
I bet you touched him

In Twister so sweet
your hair like a big helmet
and those clothes, those clothes!

If you need a place
sometimes my roommate is dumb
you can have his room

You have new movies
I have not seen them, not yet
Fun is luxury

You in the photo
Crispin, your hands like devils
That totally rules.

If we were to meet
what words could we ever share?
Soup, nice, friend, soft, bye.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

The appropriate Peanuts image would be Lucy holding a football for Charlie Brown and/or Lucy the Therapist.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, I was going to post the former earlier but got sidetracked.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I think the latter is an even better idea.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

more haikus about Crispin Glover plz

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

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Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

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stet (stet), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Here we go again

stet (stet), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

The appropriate Peanuts image would be Lucy holding a football for Charlie Brown and/or Lucy the Therapist.

No, this Peanuts image is better.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 26 January 2007 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

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the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

(having sex with someone you don't want to have sex with is not good. there might be some people you find you want to have sex with. you should try it with them. end of story.)

the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN.

How is this not already an ILX meme? (or has it already been one?)

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

i'm 26 and have never played bass through a guitar amp :/

mothers against celibacy (skowly), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

i never her

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

i'm 26 and have never played bass through a guitar amp :/

DIE

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

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say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

u harsh, ned

mothers against celibacy (skowly), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

ps. I have done everything except vaginal sex and going down on a girl I'm not completely without sexual experience

haven't had intercourse yet but skipped straight to the bukkake, dirty sanchezes, and scat? way to go bro!

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

u harsh, ned

I am bitter and must lash out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 22 and I've never ghostriddin' tha whip :-(

King Boy Pato (patog27), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

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iiiijjjj, Sunday, 30 March 2008 01:24 (eighteen years ago)

i'm 26 and have never played bass through a guitar amp :/
-- mothers against celibacy (skowly), Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:35 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Wait, is that what's wrong with all my guitar amps?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 30 March 2008 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

is this Colin C.?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 30 March 2008 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

MAKE IT STOP.

Z S, Sunday, 30 March 2008 05:01 (eighteen years ago)

fake orgasm.

darraghmac, Sunday, 30 March 2008 05:22 (eighteen years ago)

I'm 22 and I've never ghostriddin' tha whip :-(

-- King Boy Pato (patog27), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:43 (1 year ago) Link

good post

and what, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

"I have recently hooked up with a different girl who is the same type, really nice, attractive but not my "type" emotionally or physically."

lol fattey

and what, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

^I had to read that sentence a few times to try to figure out what he meant, and I never did.

If the girl is not his "type" emotionally or physically, why did he say she "is the same type, really nice, attractive" just before?

Z S, Sunday, 30 March 2008 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

"she's just like me, which is a total turnoff"

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 30 March 2008 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

attractive but not my type = i <3 uggos

and what, Sunday, 30 March 2008 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

Everything old is new again.

Aimless, Sunday, 30 March 2008 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

ps. I have done everything except vaginal sex and going down on a girl I'm not completely without sexual experience
haven't had intercourse yet but skipped straight to the bukkake, dirty sanchezes, and scat? way to go bro!

-- critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, January 26, 2007 4:53 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

so sad we lost this guy

banriquit, Sunday, 30 March 2008 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

This story should provide virgins with solace.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 30 March 2008 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Like the low, low incidence of STD among virgins?

Aimless, Sunday, 30 March 2008 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

that herclues dudes neither black nor gay. totally disillusined

burt_stanton, Sunday, 30 March 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

He's here all week, folks.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 30 March 2008 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

this reminds me when i caught that girls hades and my cells started morphing from then on i had bad breath she locked me in a plexiglass tomb for 19 days with a gun and forced me to raw into masturbat into her raw cervix meat, i was really in the psychiatrist ward where they threatened to stop or saw in half of you, looking at you with one eye-- magic. u don't gotta use condoms just dont kiss an if ur dick gets hard just start breathing like crack fiends 30 seconds in thirty seconds out works for dogs too ;-x u seen that movie 26 days later ti makes u sic thats why i am with cancers we b*** to solidify our time together in the end she got all my info, ssn, name address telephone etc-- it was worth it, she got a revolver and damn the kickbacks, when i told her i'm leaving to Montgomery for good she starting skating real hard, and they tried to trick her into trying to get me to bff her i was like "hell gna" she untimately got networked on-- If i am not ootw on Apr 1, I will be thumped to death, Gideon style ttyih

mkcaine, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

just remember baby stay clean

mkcaine, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

this is dumb i'm going to sleep

mkcaine, Sunday, 30 March 2008 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

If i am not ootw on Apr 1, I will be thumped to death, Gideon style ttyih

am0n, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

what does ootw mean?

what a delightfully quirky new voice! (bug), Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:15 (sixteen years ago)

out of the woods? out of this world?

sciolism, Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:24 (sixteen years ago)

out of this world iirc xpost

c.c. crabcock (electricsound), Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:24 (sixteen years ago)

and ttyih is talk to you in hell. well, what a perfectly coherent comment. I'm bored, I'll bite, if only to learn some more kickass acronyms. Please tell us what happens on Apr 1.

sciolism, Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:29 (sixteen years ago)

actually, i now see it's the first long post from mkcaine upthread -- someone trying just a bit too hard

what a delightfully quirky new voice! (bug), Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:31 (sixteen years ago)

that's why you always read the thread. thanks bug

sciolism, Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:36 (sixteen years ago)

i do what i can

what a delightfully quirky new voice! (bug), Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:41 (sixteen years ago)

l-qua knew all the math, all the languages, etc

we should be more respectful than this

lynndie englisher (country matters), Thursday, 2 July 2009 10:29 (sixteen years ago)

*all OF math, pardon

lynndie englisher (country matters), Thursday, 2 July 2009 10:30 (sixteen years ago)

Not long ago, I told a really nice, smart girl that I was a virgin after only knowing her for an hour or so

I hope he has learned that this is not the best pickup line.

Sookeh, I vant to suck your titties (stevienixed), Thursday, 2 July 2009 11:20 (sixteen years ago)

I hope she wasn't statutory.

incomprehensible Kool-Aid swallower (sarahel), Thursday, 2 July 2009 11:23 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

Does a person need to wear a condom for oral sex?

velko, Friday, 14 May 2010 04:06 (sixteen years ago)


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