Is pizza pie?

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Are burritos sandwiches?


British and American opinions please. If english is not your first language, SOD OFF because whatever you translate from your monkeyspeak to "pie" in God's Chosen Language probably means something more akin to a pirogie made out of a still-living pig's body cavity.

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

no and no. also koalas aren't bears.

jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

Pizza is both a pie and an open-faced sandwich. So there!

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

Pizza is not pie.
But a burrito is a kind of wrap which is a kind of sandwich

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

ok agree about the wrap thing

jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

Good gravy (mmm...good gravy!) are you wrongheaded. Burritos are no more sandwiches than koalas are pizza. They aren't even "a kind of a wrap" since they predate the whole concept of "a wrap." The fact of the matter is that wraps are bastardized burritos.

Now, pocket breads I can give you some leeway on.

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

ELABORATE FOOD TAXONOMY

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

They aren't even "a kind of a wrap" since they predate the whole concept of "a wrap." The fact of the matter is that wraps are bastardized burritos.

You're making the fallacy that we're categorizing things by common ancestry, as you do with living things.

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

pizza is a kind of bread

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

burritos are a life form!

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

or is that life style?

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

is a HOT DOG a sandwich??

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

Is pizza a pie? Of course. How else would it rhyme with 'sky'?

Melanie Says (pretends to understand), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

is soup a drink?

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Burritos are human batteries

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

is soup a drink?

it can be! in fact, i drank miso soup out of a to-go cup last week as the beverage to accompany my sushi instead of tea!

the art of pretend non-lawyering. (tehresa), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

Pizza is a tart.

jennyjennyjenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

A savory tart, that is.

jennyjennyjenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

Then what about Boston Cream Pie?

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

Is a hero nothing but a sandwich?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

mods: pls edit thread title to IZZA PIZZA PIE??

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

HAY

http://www.fromscripttodvd.com/images/Lady%20Tramp%20Re-Premiere%20smaller/Mario%20and%20Luigi%20smaller.jpg

IZZA PIZZA PIE

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

is a burger a sandwich?
is a bun a slice of bread? (if it is cut in half)

webber (webber), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

If it tastes good with horseradish, then it's pie. (For example: pumpkin pie.)
So yes, pizza is a pie.

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

Dean Martin says pizza is a pie, and I believe him.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

Pizza is more of a tart
Calzone is a pasty
piadina is a very flat toasted sandwich
A burrito may be a wrap but there is no historical wrap in british cuisine, it's nearest analogue is some kind of stew blancmange

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Upside down pizza is a false pie or 'stew with a hat'

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

Historical basis for taxonomies is kind of silly and shows what a bunch of namby pamby liberal arts pussies y'all are.

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, it just proves that burritos are genuinely furren.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

Pie has to have a pastry cover ergo Pizza is not Pie.

God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of cultures had flatbreads


WHY DID THEY NOT INVENT BURRITO SAMMICH

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

Is Tiramisu Trifle?

God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

yes

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:34 (nineteen years ago)

Pie has to have a pastry cover

pumpkin pie has a pasty crust but not a pastry cover

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:34 (nineteen years ago)

Therefore it is a tart.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think there might be a semantic UK/US difference there Jon.

Still: pastry.

God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie

hmm, wikipedia sez pizza is pie "in name only" but pumpkin pie is pie

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think the pastry crust is an important step here

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

#
# The world record for eating pizza was set in 2006 when Cristian Dumitru of Romania (currently residing in Vancouver, WA.) ate his own body weight, over 200 pounds, over the course of a week. Former record holder Takeru Kobayashi disputed the new record claiming that the pizza eaten by Mr. Dumitru had a sauce-cheese ratio too low to be considered pizza. Mr. Dumitru has since issued an open "fastest man to 50 pounds" challenge that Mr. Kobayashi, of hot dog eating fame, has yet to accept.

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

Other names for Pizza

Pizza is often referred to by several other nicknames, among which are:

* "Pie". Used in context such as "You guys wanna order a Pie?" and "What do you want on your Pie?"
* "Capi" Used in Serbia, mostly by youth, with use of Šatrovački. Derived from Serbian word for pizza (pica).
* "Za". It can be used in such context as "Let's order some za" as well as many others.
* "Elastic loaf". Used in Iran as a measure to eliminate western terminology.[12]

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

pizza is characterized by vertical organization: layer, layer, layer, layer. in this respect it is related to other vertically organized foods, like lasagna, blt's, big macs, oreos and trifle.

burrito is characterized by enclosure. it is related to other enclosed foods, like calzones, knishes, samosas, top-crusted pies, twinkies and spring rolls.

both are distinct from jumbled foods, which are neither layered nor enclosed. (see: salads, stir fry, curries, chili)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

how many dimensions can we organize food along?

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:45 (nineteen years ago)

Topologically, pizza is indistinguishable from (uncovered) pie, and closely related
to covered pie, burritos & wraps.

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

In Finnish, a pie doesn't have to be covered, but on the other hand no one calls pizza a pie.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

There's no such thing as an uncovered pie. It has to be fully encased to be a pie. Of course a pizza isn't a fucking pie, I've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life.

Dean Martin only needed something to rhyme with 'eye', incidentally. That line makes no sense in any kind of conventional English.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

In the interests of scientific research I've just bought a couple of mini-pizzas and a steak & kidney pie.

God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

This thread wouldn't have anything to do with Pete's arrival in New York, would it? I can only describe the pie debate is one of those terrible things that Brits bring with them across the Atlantic, like Kula Shaker and syphilis.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

pizza is not pie. am unsure if you need 360-degree pastry cover to be pie, but a pizza is categorically not a pie.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

There's no such thing as an uncovered pie. It has to be fully encased to be a pie. Of course a pizza isn't a fucking pie, I've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life.

So you're saying a "pie" is an acultural, ahistorical term which is defined the same way everywhere?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

mark s (in his t-shirt) to thread.

Koogy Bloogies (koogs), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder if the pie floater would work with jamaican beef patties. i don't see why not!

tuesdays with maury povich (get bent), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

An experiment must be conducted.

Ed (dali), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

i imagine a jamaican beef patty in a curry pea soup would be pretty great.

tuesdays with maury povich (get bent), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:28 (eighteen years ago)

How many years do we have left before we shuffle off? How many things untried? And this is your experiment.

I'm still convinced that pie floaters and vegimite are just an elaborate prank.

Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

excuse me if this point has already been brought up. but, what if the pizza's cover like fuck with toppings? then, is it pie. (if we agree that a pie needs a top, this is).

andi, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:59 (eighteen years ago)

covered*

andi, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:00 (eighteen years ago)

This is bogus. The pizza is not covered in toppings. The toppings form part of the pizza itself. Something cannot be its own cover.

Alba, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

no, no, no.
i mean, what if it is covered to fuck, with toppings?

andi, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

There is no limit to the number of toppings a pizza can contain.

Alba, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:10 (eighteen years ago)

it is back! it is a pizza when when you start adding the toppings. otherwise it is just bread and tomato sauce. cheese is a topping. like the petal and the anvil are different parts of the same thing.

Gukbe, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:12 (eighteen years ago)

PIZZA PIE

RJG, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:18 (eighteen years ago)

that is a falsity

Gukbe, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:20 (eighteen years ago)

i made no claim. just pondering.

andi, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

Happy birthday Cozen!

Madchen, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

Pizza is pie. Burritos are wraps.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dominos.com.au/_uploads/meat_pie.jpg

meat pie pizza. now you can have it all.

Kiwi, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago)

ugh god

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 01:42 (eighteen years ago)

LOOK INTO THE EYE

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

Look into the eye half gobbled dogs eye

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21510044-2,00.html

Kiwi, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

the fuck is this pizzacone crap? YOU ARE IN NY!WHY U EATIN THAT?

carne asada, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

Categorical thinking has a certain limited value. This thread lays bare its soft underbelly.

Aimless, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:30 (fifteen years ago)

everyone that think pizza isn't a pie probably went to college at SMU

Ballistic, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:35 (fifteen years ago)

get coned
get in the cone zone
cone it up
get the cone in your dome
pop a coner

iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:37 (fifteen years ago)

enjoy a cone alone at home

iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago)

the pizza i made tonight is more of a galette.

shiksa kabab (get bent), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:46 (fifteen years ago)

cone'n like a barbarian

eau de humanity (haitch), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:49 (fifteen years ago)

whatcha cone do

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

"Tastes like a pizza," Victor Nelli, a TV producer, tells the Daily News. "You can totally walk with it, and you don't have the oil dripping all over you."

Get less oily pizza.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:24 (fifteen years ago)

Calzone is the street food of kings though. Why not just do that?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)

less oily pizza would be unamerican, in my experience.

what kind of present your naked body (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe I was only eating the good stuff but the pizza I had in New York seemed perfectly designed for walking with. This is an unnecessary innovation.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

could just get a GIROS.

The smile on my face, disguises the case, I bury the truth deep down in (ken c), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

argh. GYROS

The smile on my face, disguises the case, I bury the truth deep down in (ken c), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

it's sad how many pizza eaters don't understand the usefulness of THE FOLD

shiksa kabab (get bent), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

or the roll. which you can do with those really thin ones.

The smile on my face, disguises the case, I bury the truth deep down in (ken c), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2305/2176198679_fb7f492a02.jpg

keep the napkin and/or wax paper on the crust end to keep the grease from spilling out.

shiksa kabab (get bent), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)

Dude I'm sorry, that does not work. First of all pizza grease will go through a paper napkin like it's not even there. And wax paper serves more as a funnel than a dam. And speaking of funnels, if you fold your slice u better roll up your shirt sleeve cause there is a large chance that a streak of orange oil will be making a beeline for your elbow

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

third line of defense: the takeout bag

shiksa kabab (get bent), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

B-b-but don't you do a napkin press on the top of the pizza to remove the bulk of the oil before the folding?

I'm possibly going to a pizzeria launch tonight and will try to avoid the thin orange line.

barack hussein chalayan (suzy), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

or: eat the thing before it drips.

The smile on my face, disguises the case, I bury the truth deep down in (ken c), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

4th line of defence; sit down to eat you fucking heathen.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

hold pizza in front of mouth, bend forward slightly, any drips go to pavement. your shirt is safe. keep eating until pizza disappears or until size reduces to one that can support its own structual integrity. feel satisfied. carry on journey

The smile on my face, disguises the case, I bury the truth deep down in (ken c), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

would rather be slathered in unwashable orange oil than eat something that looks like a smoker's lung: http://slice.seriouseats.com/assets_c/2010/02/20100222-k-pizzacones-pep-split-thumb-560x373-75153.jpg

on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:54 (fifteen years ago)

B-b-but don't you do a napkin press on the top of the pizza to remove the bulk of the oil before the folding?

I do this in extreme situations yes - sometimes it takes a good three sopping translucent napkins to really do the job

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

Stevie, that stuff looks as serious as cancer. Would still try one because I'd be a bad American if I didn't drool for melted cheese, and probably better than these radioactive nuggets of Satan:

http://generalmillsconvenientsolutions.com/images/totinos/totinos_footer_new_4.jpg

barack hussein chalayan (suzy), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

haha yeah i love pizza rolls when i'm in the US, i guess the difference is they're too small to tear open and look at, unlike these cones...

on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

B-b-but don't you do a napkin press on the top of the pizza to remove the bulk of the oil before the folding?

The other strategy is to add so much parmesan and oregano that you turn the grease into a more viscous spice sludge

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

is pizza poo

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coming soon, jello pudding isn't pudding because it isn't boiled inside an intestine

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