Denzel Washington: Is he the worst actor who has been constantly nominated for an Oscar

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I have never enjoyed Denzel's work, from the sappiness of his character in St Elsewhere, through Malcolm X and his choice of insipidly bland good guy roles. Saw him in Training Day where he overacts like a fool and undermines what there is of the entire (overlong and poorly structured) film. Is it just me, or is he really that bad?

Pete, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yr bagging denzel when he's up against will fucking smith and russel couldn't get a fuck crowe?

Geoff, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but ws and rc are better than dw, goeff

mark s, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Denzel Washington is a great actor who is currently in a slump. His work in "Glory" and "X" was impeccable, but the ultra-hammy commercials completely put me off from seeing "Training Day" and the less I think about "Remember The Titans", the happier I am.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Indeed, although Pete is often right about films, he's wrong about Denzel's career as a whole. However, I'm happy to admit that his performance in Training Day is strictly late Pacino.

Mark Morris, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If his charisma were a footballing club side, it would truly be Everton.

Ronan, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Gosh Mark, I am honoured. That said I think I have had the misfortune to see nearly all of Denzel's films and he has always struck me a personality free zone, all light and no shade to the characters. Give him two big soliloquies and he is happy to mark time for the rest of the movie. He was so wrong in Devil In A Blue Dress and his Malcolm X (despite me rather liking the film) seemed to be a vacumn which the rest of the film revolved around.

He was okay in Glory, good call Dan, but his repetoire seems to be a smallish bag of tricks - and now he is moving into the face pulling field he is slowly becoming a parody. I'm willing to be disabused of this notion though.

Pete, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

HE IS NOT THAT BAD BUT HE SEEMS KIND OF HIGH ON HIMSELF AND HE PLAYS TEH SAME INDIGNANT ROLES

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He was extremely overrated in Glory, I'm sorry - the entire rest of the main cast outshone him in my opinion.

Ally, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My memories of Glory are that the film was rather good and that Washington was in it. I'd quite happily plump for a worst thing in it credit at that level.

Pete, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

running joke on urkel: female character gets sick with the flu, other female characters take care of her by: making chicken soup, putting her up in bed with blankets and such, and renting every single denzel movie ('ooh!'). so CLASSIC.

ethan, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

At least Denzel hasn't won an Oscar. Tom Hanks is not only nominated constantly, but this dreadful excuse for cellulloid filler has actually one Academy Awards. I'd rather watch virtually anything Denzel has done (and most of it is pure tripe) than even a second of a single Tom Hanks movie made in the nineties.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

where is THIS MAN'S oscar?

mark s, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Denzel never won an Oscar? Someone should tell the Academy archivist...

Dan Perry, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Even Joe versus the Volcano?

Ally, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now, see, bitching about Denzel is all fine & good, but what about ETHAN HAWKE!?!? Granted, he's a newbie & all, but, still, egads.

David Raposa, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ethan Hawke looks like he's permanently pooing in his pants, it's that look of equal parts relief and revulsion on his face.

chris, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ethan Hawke is just awful, he just knows how to do angst-ridden whining.

Nicole, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Who shall rid me of this meddlesome Ethan Hawke?"

(I've probably butchered that quote. This is what happens when you learn your Shakespeare via Black Adder.)

Dan Perry, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As long as it results in a painful death for EH it doesn't matter if the quote was correct or not.

Nicole, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

NB EH is not Emma Hamilton in this instance. I hope.

Emma, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Emma, BEHIND YOU!

Dan Perry, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Help! I think I need a bodyguard to get me home safely with murderous types like Nicole lurking about the place.

Emma, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nicole will celebrate her honeymoon by finding Ethan Hawke and killing him slowly. Now that's love!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's a mission worthy of Nobel Prize consideration. Maybe just removing his tongue and shaving the fuzz off his face will do the job - he was perfectly fine as the mute in Dead Poet's Society.

I think Ethan actually took all the roles clearly meant for Robert Sean Leonard.

David Raposa, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dude, I hate Tom Hanks too, but The Money Pit is a lot better than anything Denzel's been involved in.

Kris, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

lol old ilx contrarianism.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago)

and jokes about killing celebrities

s1ocki, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

ethan calling "Family Matters" "Urkle" because a bunch of british people won't call him on it?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwv655uA_Gw

gershy, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 08:50 (seventeen years ago)

"Any resemblance between father and son is purely.....hysterical"

gershy, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 08:54 (seventeen years ago)

Dan Perry did you ever see Training Day? It's about as stupid as it looks from the trailers but he manages to convince you pretty well as the movie goes along. Whatever he convinces you of doesn't really add up to much but, there you go.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 09:08 (seventeen years ago)

Give him two big soliloquies and he is happy to mark time for the rest of the movie.

otm

he's ok in the great debaters but forest whitaker takes his shine off pretty well in their big scene together.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 09:11 (seventeen years ago)

there's just something so uninvolved about his approach, like a little tumor of indifference that grows larger and recedes only every once in a while.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 09:13 (seventeen years ago)

I liked him in Crimson Tide for some reason.

tremendoid, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 09:14 (seventeen years ago)

Dan Perry did you ever see Training Day?

Yeah, I did. It was okay as far as movies like that go and he was pretty good in it, but there's NO WAY he should have won an Oscar for that role.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

He's the best thing in both Philadelphia and Inside Man. I skip the ones I can smell from the trailers (ie, 90% of his films).

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

whether you like his movie choices or not he's a pretty undeniably powerful screen presence...

s1ocki, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

like the hulk

gershy, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

original choice for 'john q'

s1ocki, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:31 (seventeen years ago)

it is v important to remember that Training Day is a comedy.

kenan, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:32 (seventeen years ago)

no worse than hanks or crowe, for sure.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

way to set the bar

s1ocki, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

I like Russell Crowe.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

xpost

trying to think of other consistently nominated actors, tbh.

i like all three of them about equally. i don't think i've seen any of them set the screen alight in anything in the past five years.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

Johnny Depp?

HI DERE, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

has he been nominated that often? he's more interesting, definitely.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

He's been nominated at least 3 times (PotC, Finding Neverland, Sweeny Todd), probably more.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

Depp was so good in the original POTC it wasn't even funny. Orlando Bloom doesn't belong on the same planet with the guy.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:10 (seventeen years ago)

Dan is correct: three times.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:12 (seventeen years ago)

i've not seen sweeney todd, don't plan to (burton hasn't really been any good since sleepy hollow for me). should i?

yeah, depp was great in PotC.

finding neverland looked really boring. would have been better with denzel in that role.

anyway, so yeah depp is definitely better than denzel. that's only one consistently-nommed actor.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

Since 1980:

Daniel Day-Lewis has been nominated 4 times and has won once.
Michael Caine has been nominated for Best Actor twice and Best Supporting Actor twice.
Tom Cruise has been nominated for Best Actor twice and Best Supporting Actor once.
Robert De Niro has been nominated for Best Actor 3 times.
Leonardo DiCaprio has been nominated for Best Actor twice and Best Supporting Actor once.
Robert Duvall has been nominated for Best Actor 3 times and Best Supporting Actor once.
Albert Finnet has been nominated for Best Actor twice and Best Supporting Actor once.
Morgan Freeman has been nominated for Best Actor twice and Best Supporting Actor twice.
Ed Harris has been nominated for Best Actor once and Best Supporting Actor 3 times.
Dustin Hoffman has been nominated for Best Actor 3 times.
Anthony Hopkins has been nominated for Best Actor 3 times and Best Supporting Actor once.
William Hurt has been nominated for Best Actor 3 times and Best Supporting Actor once.
Ben Kingsley has been nominated for Best Actor twice and Best Supporting Actor twice.
Martin Landau has been nominated for Best Supporting Actor 3 times.
Paul Newman has been nominated for Best Actor 4 times and Best Supporting Actor once.
Jack Nicholson has been nominated for Best Actor 4 times and Best Supporting Actor 3 times.
Peter O'Toole has been nominated for Best Actor 3 times.
Al Pacino has been nominated for Best Actor once and Best Supporting Actor twice.
Sean Penn has been nominated for Best Actor 4 times.
Geoffrey Rush has been nominated for Best Actor twice and Best Supporting Actor once.
Robin Williams has been nominated for Best Actor 3 times and Best Supporting Actor once.

THANK YOU, OSCARS DB

HI DERE, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

(obv left out Crowe (3 BA), Depp (3 BA inc this year) and Hanks (5 BA))

HI DERE, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

thanks, couldn't get that to d'load at work.

i'd argue that deniro, williams and cruise are significantly worse than washington from that list.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

Well, now you can make you choice count!

Who is the worst actor to have been consistently nominated for an Oscar?

HI DERE, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

appreciated, and done!

darraghmac, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Bronson Pinchot dishes:

Denzel Washington was behind the incredibly cowardly bullshit of “This is my character, not me.” He was really abusive to me and everybody on that movie, and his official explanation was that his character didn’t like me, but it was a dreadful experience. I spent my salary on time with my shrink just for helping me get through it, and what that led to was the very next big movie that I did. I should have said to the producers, “You get that guy in line, or I’m out of here.” Life’s too short.... I’ve never taken abuse again. And I wasn’t vile or anything, it just ripped out of me. Denzel Washington cured me forever of thinking that there is any amount of money or anything that could ever, ever make it okay to be abused. The script supervisor on that movie said it’s like watching somebody kick a puppy. He was so vile. And after that, I just would never endure it again.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/bronson-pinchot%2C34310/

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago)


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