This isn't sport [Italian football violence thread]

I worry that Flickring for images would turn me into one of those middle-aged, middle-class dicks who jack off over Cass Pennant books.

...Police also located a stash of arms yesterday hidden inside Catania's Massimino football stadium, the scene of the rioting. Baseball bats and iron balls, described by police as offensive weapons, were found in a room used by the stadium's caretaker, who was arrested after he tried to stop the raid by setting dogs on police officers.

...In England the game's second chance was partly paid for in Italian blood when the combination of Heysel, Bradford and Hillsborough achieved a kind of critical mass. The subsequent bourgeoisification of English football, accelerated by the invention of the Premiership, created the conditions in which ticket prices could be raised so high that, combined with effective security precautions, they eventually deterred hooligans, whose violent activities have largely been displaced, in a diluted form, to the lower divisions.

In Italy, by contrast, you can still turn up at a Serie A match and buy a ticket for less than a tenner. A cursory search at the turnstile is unlikely to reveal the flare taped to your inner thigh. Inside the stadium the facilities are rudimentary and your activities will be neither observed by the kind of closed-circuit cameras that scan every inch of an English stadium nor supervised by any kind of rigorous stewarding.

Why would higher ticket prices deter hooligans? Why do people keep assuming they don't have jobs? The kind of obsessives that go to every match home and away, or follow England all round Europe, wouldn't be put off by an extra £20 on the entrance fee. I think he's mentioned the right things, but in the wrong order. I'd say the security aspects (CCTV everywhere, lots of stewards) coupled with all-seater stadia (so you can see exactly where everyone is) and all-ticket matches and membership schemes (so you know exactly who everyone is) and mass banning orders made hooliganism inside grounds more or less disappear. This made the game more attractive to people who would never previously have gone, and they were prepared to pay higher prices.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7089485.stm

YAY HERE WE GO AGAIN. Maybe they'll close the stadiums for THREE weeks this time before deciding to do fuck all.

200 metre shot?

I think they should withdraw Italy from Saturday's game at Hampden as a mark of respect.

or of terror of real hard b*stards, like scottish football fans, as opposed to poncy italians.

Real hard bastards don't sing "Doe-a-Deer" tbh.

Could have sworn this thread used to have D Boyle's doing a big ol' Nabisco-on-football post?

There was another about the Italian "fixing" scandal, it may have been there (also featured someone else who seems to have vanished - Lovelace or something like that?).

It's here: Juventus and co "demoted to Serie B", say reports

Features this classic DJ Martianism:

where the heck is treviso?

A: Between the Alps and Venice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treviso

Treviso is a town in the Veneto region of Italy. It is the capital of Treviso province. The municipality has 82,112 inhabitants (December 2004): some 80,000 live in the urban center proper, while the city hinterland has a population of some 170,000.

-- DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 14 July 2006 20:01 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

30 points penalty that's = 10 games all victories wiped

-- DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, July 14, 2006 8:05 PM (Friday, July 14, 2006 8:05 PM) Bookmark Link

DJ M brings FACTS

Has plank Prodi even BEEN to Stadio La Favorita this season?

There was another thread following the trouble at Roma last season but I can't find it - I think there was a Lovelace vs Boyler FITE.

^ I think that was the standard 'Liverpool won't win blah, blah, Euro' thread for last season. IIRC Lovelace is a Swedish Milan fan living in Britain who hates all things British.

Found it.

Kicks off shortly after here: Liverpool won't win the Champions League or UEFA Cup 2006/07

Italian fans and police acting like neanderthal cunts shocker. Dig up Giuseppe Meazza and fuck his dust, that's what I say. Fucking arseholes. Maybe we should ban them until their police can act like they belong to a civilised country. Oh, I forgot, this is Italy, land of the pathetic state and the simpering apologists.

-- The Boyler, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:34 (7 months ago) Bookmark Link
because manyoo fans are always a picture of restraint........

-- Porkpie, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:57 (7 months ago) Bookmark Link
what a idiot you are, boyler. fuck off from this thread.

-- Lovelace, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 23:00 (7 months ago) Bookmark Link

Gosh, I was rather extreme of the opinion in that thread.

Well, that's old ILX for you.

Lovelace is a Swedish Milan fan living in Britain who hates all things British.

I certainly hope this is nothing but an attepmt at humour. Do you think I'd move to England if I hate Britain? The only thing I've said is that I hate English football.

Italian football seems a bit more entertaining than it used to be - probably why they're not as successful

Yeah, we should really have won two World Cups last year.

should have had the UEFA Cup as well as the CL

I meant the club sides obviously

PLANK Italians not successful ENOUGH. is victory across the board too much to ASK for?

Ha ha, I plum forgot Milan squeaked thru against Celtic to go on to win the Champions League!

TS: Hazel Irvine vs. Laura Esporto

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=668419

Presumably gay prostitutes are more expensive to hire than straight ones.

Italian men are more into transexuals tho, aren't they?

Here's heterosexual former Italian national team star Francesco Coco, who accidentally wandered into a gay bar a few months back:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/104/369192315_6ff9d718a7.jpg

Haha "homosexuals are very intelligent people".

Hussein Cairo, Egypt
Totaly agree, I guess that the should make a law that porhibts Gays from playing Football. It's a men's sport, simple as that.

Simple as that.

And Pinto agrees with him

They don't fit in. Because of their attitudes, the way they act, the effort involved, they just can't cope with it.

Like English footballers playing for England.

Raj Rajput Düsseldorf, Germany
England is the Motherland for batty gay fags !!!

*snigger*

antonio Cheeseman is BACK!
has anyone noticed that most of these comments are comming from england, gays seem to be a big thing over there!

I never realised how gay the rest of europe thinks we are.

I reckon he's American

Adam Jerusalem
I still remember that I married with Eve, not Steve

and look where that got you, Steve wouldn't have been putting apples in your mouth.

Yeah, he'd have been putting something else there

How do you like _them_ apples?

Moggi OTM, it's not racism

Yes it is, it's anti-English

gaycism