― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)
― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)
HOW SOON WE FORGET
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)
That was news to me at least. (If true.)
― ledge (ledge), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)
Seriously, that's the caricature of Seaver here.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)
But, fuck, I HATE that song, so, you know, perfect fit.
― Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)
WHY NOT INDEED.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)
― Free For All (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)
― Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)
(Also "Winds Of Change" is better!)
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)
― Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)
― pisces (piscesx), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)
― kingfishy (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)
I would get medieval on this idiot's ass
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)
Dr Morbius - why? Support her if you like, but she's not far off.
― Gimme Gimme Wild West (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)
compare & contrast with
http://www.onlinebowline.rockers.co.uk/covers/gordona.jpg
― kingfishy (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)
― kingfishy (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)
(ie she's a scummy New Democrat with no discernible beliefs other than Elections Must Be Won)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)
Paul Wagemann Edward Island?
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)
― kingfishy (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)
The most stupid are just...indescribable.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)
http://blogs.citypages.com/ctg/2006/06/annals_of_conse.asp
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yeah, we've had more than a few threads on NRO rockcrit genius
― kingfishy (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)
National Review, November 11, 1977
"Pistol-Whipped" - Edward Meadows
God save the Queen A fascist regime God save the Queen Made you a moron God save the Queen She ain't no human being And there's no future And England's dreaming --"God Save the Queen," The Sex Pistols
The Sex Pistols' "God Save the Queen," which is the national anthem of British New Wave rock circa 1977, hasn't got a single filthy word in it. Yet the record's banned on all the radio stations and barred from every retail store. The Sex Pistols are prohibited from performing in England (they're exiled to Amsterdam). Still "God Save the Queen" is in the top five on the hit lists, and Labor Party MPs stand foaming at the mouth, swearing to "destroy New Wave before it destroys the nation."
But the wimpy MPs have got it backwards, any New Wave punk will tell you. It's the bleedin' Labor Party that's destroying the nation. New Wave rock music is music of working-class rage--at the empty promises of the welfare state, at the eternal dole and the double-digit inflation and the double-digit unemployment, all of which leaves working-class Brits holding the empty bag. It's easy to sing of peace and love when you're pulling down $100,000 a night on tour. It's fun to play the dirty hippy when you know all the time you can shave off the hair tomorrow and go to work in pa's law firm. Peace and love? The New Wave answers back with a song of its own, titled "Hate and War."
New Wave, descended from New York punk rock, is just now blossoming in England. The music scene is fresh, exciting, a renaissance to recall the rock explosion of the Sixties. But New Wave is the very antithesis of the now jaded and faded Progressive rock--the Beatles, the Stones, and all that. New Wave is best described as industrial strength hard rock--the hardest of hard rock, mean, no frills, four-chord rock, amplified till it burns your ears off. New Wave musicians and their fans don't go for kinky sex, nor any bleating whiny protest lyrics, nor any hokey drugged mysticism. They go right for the jugular. The music is charged with the energy of depraved political anger. And the fashion is to be as utterly unfashionable as one can be. New Wave kids stroll along King's Road wearing short hair, heavy black eye make-up, razor-blade earrings, and tee-shirts that say, "Hitler Was a Punk Rocker." The more devoted fans wear swastika pendants and safety pins through their cheeks.
The anti-chic of New Wave finds clearest expression in the vicious, snarling song lyrics, in the nasty satires New Wave bands do of "rich-kid" hippy rock, even in the names of the groups. There's The Clash and The Damned and The Adverts and The Stranglers and The Unwanted and The Stiffs. The short-haired, trashily dressed anti-stars of these groups go by such names as Johnny Rotten (lead singer for The Sex Pistols), Richard Hell, Rat Scabies. And Gloria Steinem would be appalled. New Wave bands are aggressively chauvinistic toward women; female New Wavers don't do much for the cause, either. The hottest all-girl New Wave band goes by the name of The Slits. Another all-female group calls itself Snatch. And if any fur-lined radical-chic fat-cat rock critic for Rolling Stone magazine should leave the safety of his chauffered Rolls to enter a New Wave rock club and survey the scene, he's likely to get laid out quick. In the words of one New Wave fanatic, "If there's one thing that makes me take up arms, it's bored rich-kids treating my life as this week's trend."
Of all the New Wave bands, only The Jam has yet officially aligned itself with the Conservative Party. But most of the groups lean toward the (Neo-Nazi) National Front. This, of course, is just too awfully embarrassing for the trend-setters who'd love to neatly package New Wave and hawk it in the U.S.A. They lust to rip New Wave off, turn it into a trend, commercialize it, use it up, and make a killing in the process. But right-wing rock is utter blasphemy to your average cocaine-sniffing Manhattan-posh rock writer. He can't handle it, so he dismisses it as a passing fad, or he ignores it altogether. However, money is to be made, and every American record company has its scouts in every London punk club, searching for New Wave acts to sign.
And the vultures follow the jackals: pop psychologists are crawling out of the woodwork to "explain" this terribly sick, sick New Wave movement. A Harvard sociologist is already skulking among London's New Wavers, interviewing the poor dears for a trendy new book, which will doubtless decry the sad failure of these angry kids to see and understand the fruits of state socialism. But the kids see and they understand. When you finish school and can't get a job so you have to live at home with your parents and go on the dole, when you haven't got a hope of any future at all, then you're backed up against the wall. And if you're young and ripe, you're not about to keep quiet, to maintain the stiff upper lip of your frightened parents, as Britain goes down the bleedin' toilet.
Actually the New Wave movement could be a healthy development, a purgative for the self-delusion of British life. The time for decorum may be past, and the punk kids have thrown British reserve to the winds. Why should you stand around being subserviently decent when your nation is dying and your future is dying with it? What better time to point the angry finger to offend those who, in the name of propriety, acquiesce in the political and economic failure of a nation? If the working-class, out-of-work youth weren't spending their energy on their hard new music, they'd be venting it in more vile ways. Music is their only voice. And, as the rock of the Sxties did for its generation, New Wave gives these kids, the damned, something their own, a sense of community, of shared adversity. There's something touching about it all.
It's not likely that New Wave will sweep America. For, despite all the bland denials of appalled American rock critics, New Wave is, at base, right-wing political protest. And American kids haven't got so much to protest about: unemployment and inflation are worrisome problems here in the States, but nothing like the British disaster, and not nearly so directly traceable to the bankrupt policies of state socialism. No, the New Wave is born and bred of rage against the Labor Party, the Board of trade, the unions, and lonh-haired hippy-dippy-chic rich-kid poseurs who don't have to worry because they've got it made. Peace and love? Hate and war! It's not pretty, but then it's not meant to be.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)
― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)
― tarzan in congo (nabisco), Monday, 5 February 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)
― frankenstein in east anglia (nabisco), Monday, 5 February 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 February 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)
Not that it will make one bit of difference at all.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 5 February 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 5 February 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)
― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 5 February 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)
"These pro-Empire sentiments and ostentatious displays of the Union Jack began to earn the group the tag of "Conservative". Weller's announcement that The Jam intended to vote for the Conservative Party in the upcoming General Election served to confirm this association. It would later cause them much embarrassment and dog them throughout their career."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jam
I didn't know that!
― J (Jay), Monday, 5 February 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)
it's "Ask President Clinton"
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 5 February 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 08:25 (eighteen years ago)
― A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 08:54 (eighteen years ago)
maybe hilary got into jj after seeing them at a corporate gig?
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)
Socailized medicine doesn't equal communism. Like not even a little bit.
― Healthy dude from Canada. (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)
because they* are stupid.
*the people that think this, not all americans
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)
"As if" and "it's interesting that" are what I like to call "asshat rhetorical devices".
Who wants to argue with an asshat?
― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0207-34.htm
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)