DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT TEH JOHN WALKER LINDH CASE?

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ANOTHER DESPERATE ATTEMPT BY THE MEDIA TO MAKE A BIG STORY OUT OF A STUPID LITTEL TALE

― Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I CARE BECAUSE YOU DON'T

― N., Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

YOU ARE ... INDESCRIBEABLE

― Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And with that, the debate ends.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

which case is this again? the name sounds familiar.

― DV, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

American asshole who joined the Taliban. Now a matter of the cultcha warz more than the courts, as conservatives say "see -- a degenerate culture leads to religious loonies trying to kill us!" and lefties say "see -- we must think of the children!" and soft-racists say "see -- he used to listen to that rap music!" and luddites say "see -- he used the internet!"

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Apparently his conversion to Islam was inspired by reading Autobiography of Malcom X. Excellent book and one I plan on teaching when I'm an English teacher. Does that make me pro-taliban?

― Samantha, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If you have to ask, the terrorists have already won.

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you know, poor righteous teachers and brand nubian didn't make ME join the taliban.

― ethan, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

WHAT IF THE STAMP COLLECTERS WERE MILLITANT!?

― Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

good for you, ethan.

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well, i was proud!

― ethan, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

best MX quote = "The only thing I like integrated is my coffee."

― Geoff, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I care a bit about this case.

Mr Lindh joined the forces of a government that was not at war with the US at the time. furthermore, the US never officially declared war on the govt mr Lindh served. I suspect strongly that there is no evidence to suggest Mr Lindh ever engaged in acts of violence (or in planning of acts of violence) against american nationals, except perhaps in self-defence during that prison massacare.

So my feeling is that the trial of Mr Lindh is a politically motivated witch hunt.

Still, he is lucky that he is not being held in the Iso Cubes on Guantanamao.

― DV, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lindh's nemesis is John Ashcrift, the most right wing attorney general the US has had in decades. Ashcroft, a carefully-spoken man, would clearly like Lindh to swing for his unpatriotic treachery. Yet given the choice between an idealistic young Californian who learned perfect Arabic and went to mingle with people of another culture, and a spooky old puritan bigot like Ashcroft, I know which I prefer. I know which I consider the more advanced, and the more American. The US is a nation founded by dissidents whose consciences forbade them to collude in imperialism and bullying. People like Lindh.

― Momus, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

momus he JOINED THE TALIBAN.

― ethan, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus' comparison is a clever one though Ethan - the Pilgrim Fathers wanted to set up a perfect theocratic society and so did the Taliban. But Momus - the American-ness of the US is based on its movement *beyond* that millenarian ideal surely. That said the US was 'founded' by a lot of people - I can understood why the New England colonists get all the good historical press and the Virginian ones don't, even though the laissez-faire ur-capitalism of the tobacco profiteers is arguably just as much an influence on the America projected to the rest of us today as the city on a hill.

― Tom, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry duh I am misreading Momus completely - he is talking about the Founding Fathers and I take back my comments about the cleverness of his analogy.

― Tom, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I THINK OF LINDH MORE LIKE PATTY HEARST ....OR MAYBE SYD BARRET

― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So that means in twenty years time he'll either be starring in John Waters movies or be fat, bald and worried somewhere in Cambridge?

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

more like a dimwit bernadine dohrn than hearst: taliban as the rad-islam weathermen? i don't think the founding fathers' comparison carries very far, tho i do think a. ashcroft can as easily be characterised as "anti-american" as Lindh, and b. the presence of folks like ashcroft in high political office are what CREATE folks like Lindh. (likewise eg Curtis LeMay = Dohrn, tho i shd stress i have more time for Dohrn — who was a very eloquent writer, if a poor judge of political reality — than Lindh.

― mark s, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

erm that's lemay => dohrn for sense fans

― mark s, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's the Pennsylvania Quakers that I like, is JWL a bit like them?

― DV, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

-- Momus, Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:00 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

― and what, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 23:03 (seventeen years ago)

incredible

― and what, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 23:03 (seventeen years ago)

momus is a dude with opinions

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

he stands for something

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

i'm just... wow

― and what, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 23:07 (seventeen years ago)

haha its like he made every sentence rong in a different way

― max, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 23:09 (seventeen years ago)

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