Travelling in Eastern Europe

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So here's the plan: I'm taking two months or so off in the summer to travel from Tallinn down to Istanbul. I'll improvise the route somewhat, but these are the countries I'm likely to pass through (bearing in mind I've already been to Hungary and Croatia): Estonia, Lativia, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria. Any tips/warnings/things not to be missed? And have I given myself a good amount of time, do you think?

chap (chap), Friday, 9 February 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

Go to Tallinn. Capital of Estonia. It's really, really lovely with lots of good medieval bits. And its small enough to walk round. while you are in Tallinn, pop across the Baltic to Helsinki - it only takes an hour and a half. Then you can meet up with Tuomas, like I did!

That's a good amount of time.

When you are in Romania you MUST go to Brasov. It's lovely and Bran (i.e. Dracula's) castle is a short bus ride away. Don't spend too long in Bucharest tho, it's a rather hectic city.

New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 9 February 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

i would try and visit here:

http://englishrussia.com/images/strange_soviet_buildings/strange_houses3.jpg

but i don't know where in Ukraine it is.

vita susicivus (blueski), Friday, 9 February 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

I'm probably only zipping through a corner of Ukraine to be honest; it's pretty big so I wouldn't really know where to start with it.

Thanks for the tips, Mark - I was wondering if a rendez-vous with Tuomas would make logistical sense! I was actually looking forward to Bucharest, but then I quite like hectic cities.

chap (chap), Friday, 9 February 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

i'd fly into helsinki rather than tallinn, as mark says the two are very close

or why not fly into tampere on a budget airline? tampere is good, then get the train down to helsinki, and carry on from there.

i'd definitely include finland on this trip

Save The Whales (688), Friday, 9 February 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

what about Minsk?

vita susicivus (blueski), Friday, 9 February 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

I spent about seven hours in Helsinki and got back to Tallinn about 9.30 in the evening. By then I was quite peckish and so I went to a restaurant near the docks called Scotland Yard, which as you might expect was police-themed. It's really funny! They have a cool fish tank and a cool ceiling. Their website is here:

http://www.scotlandyard.ee

eesti only though as far as I can see.

and it looks like this:
http://www.scotlandyard.ee/gfx/images/05_kesklinn.gif

New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 9 February 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

rila monastary in bulgaria, i would go to.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 9 February 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

I think you're trying to accomplish too much for two months, but I like to dwell. But here are my suggestions:

1) Krakow! It's great, and everyone raves about it after having spent some time there. Good for a day trip to Auschwitz too.

2) I'd skip Kiev for L'viv about a million times over. Ukraine is cool, but you'll see all you need if you stay to the western part of the country - unless you go to the Crimea, but it may be rather out of the way.

3) The best parts of Romania are the ones with reasonable Hungarian speaking minorities (as a general rule of thumb). Bucharest is busy, dirty and nasty and not that great a city. Definitely see the Maramaros area (I think that's Maramures in Romanian). Cluj is a great city.

4) I would also include Finland on this trip if possible.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Friday, 9 February 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I know a lady who took her Holocaust survivor mother back to Poland in '05 for a memorial thing, and she was surprised how much she actually liked Cracow.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 9 February 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

Surprised? Krakow is awesome; Warsaw not so much.

Also, Cesky Krumlov is a great small Czech town. Nice cliffside castle, Egon Schiele museum, very peaceful. It's about midway between Vienna and Prague. It's touristy (it's where everyone who wants to go a little off the beaten path goes), but still great.

I guess that's if you want to hang down to Croatia/Hungary/etc. instead. In that case Budapest is also great.

Alexander (Alexander Buckiewicz-Smith), Friday, 9 February 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

I'll be in Vienna and prague in March.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 9 February 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

Thnigs may have changed, but I think you'll find the route more complicated than you expect - even though what you describe looks like a straight line, transport links in a lot of these countries (especially Ukraine) are organized on the basis of spokes outside a radial hub -- ie. there's no reason for us to make it easy for future armies to march from Warsaw to the Black Sea. It might ultimately be easier to go trhough Slovakia and Hungary (Budapest-Sofia IS a major corridor.)

In In very broad strokes Lviv < Krakow < Prague - all feel very similar to me, so if you like one you should, like others. (I Like them all :)

Chernivtsi, in a kind of neat town that still retains distinct traces of its Austro-Hungarian past, although I'm not sure I'd recommend changing travel plans to passs through.

Otherwise seconding Rila in Bulgaria, Krakow/Auschwitz.

Go to Lonely Planet's messageboard, there will be lots and lots of disucssion there, I'm sure.

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Saturday, 10 February 2007 04:21 (eighteen years ago)

Krakow thirded or fourthed, or whatever. Also, since it sounds like you'll be coming into Poland from the north, you might consider Gdansk. The old town is well preserved/restored, and overall, I think it might be worth seeing more than Warsaw. Or, if you want something more rural, the Mazury is a lakeland in northeastern Poland that's well worth spending a few days in. It may be a bit too touristy and crowded in the summers these days, but the very northeastern corner, near the Lithuanian border (Suwalszczyzna/Sudovia), is a bit more off-the-beaten-path and quiet.

And, on the southern side, there are the Tatra mountains, an offshoot of the Carpathians on the Slovak-Polish border. If you happen to be passing through in June, head to Zakopane and spend a few days hiking. There's a pretty extensive network of trails, and remote hostels in a lot of the valleys where you can hike in and spend the night (though you may have to book these in advance). Skip this in July or August, though, as the place really gets overrun.

Farther south, I can't really say. I've been planning to take a similar trip myself for a while now and haven't gotten round to it just yet.

xtof (xtof), Saturday, 10 February 2007 05:13 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks everyone! I think I'm coming round to the idea of missing out Ukraine and going through Hungary instead - I was trying to avoid this as I've been to Budapest before, but I did think it was an amazing city so spending a day or two there will hardly be a chore. Finland bears consideration, but I'll probably decide against it in the end due to time constraints (though maybe a day trip to Helsinki can be managed - are you listening Tuomas?).

chap (chap), Saturday, 10 February 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

I've booked my ticket: flying out to Tallinn on the 24th. No return flight booked yet, I'm going to play it by ear.

chap, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

Events I will miss: the smoking ban coming in, Gordon's coronation, the last episode of Doctor Who.

chap, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 12:22 (eighteen years ago)

fifteen years pass...

does anyone have any thoughts about ljubljana and slovakia?

was mesmerized by a train ride video from ljubljana to kranj recently, can't stop thinking about it. is it a nice place to visit? of course flights from my western u.s. city to ljubljana are $$ with insane layovers.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:52 (three years ago)

in my hitchhiking/train riding days I made stopovers in Ljubljana (very beautiful old city) and Maribor (of which I remember much less, we’re talking early 80s Yugoslav times here!). can’t tell you much about the rest of Slovenia. (as for Slovakia, I’ve never been there). still would like to revisit Ljubljana one day tho.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 8 July 2022 06:19 (three years ago)

Frankfurt is probably your best bet, and handle your second flight independently

SLC -> Frankfurt arriving 10am. Then an evening flight to Ljubljana about an hour. There are also a good amount of buses from Germany to former Yugoslavia, will be about 9 hours though from Frankfurt

Going via LAX to Vienna looks a lot cheaper with short gap between flights at LAX. No flights from Vienna to Ljubljana, bus is about 6 hours, will be frequent same as buses from Germany

Christmas in Davenport (cherry blossom), Friday, 8 July 2022 09:29 (three years ago)

ljubljana is cool, lots of weirdo diy stuff around town and a cool contemporary art museum. there's one of those tidy formalist napoleonic central parks and right in the middle is a little museum, i walked in and there was an exhibition of peter brotzmann's charcoal drawing with a brotzmann live dvd projected on the wall at TREMENDOUS volume

best bottle of wine i ever had was a slovenian chardonnay on that same trip, lots of good wine in that region.

adam, Saturday, 9 July 2022 13:27 (three years ago)


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