Rolling silent movie appreciation/discussion/recommendation thread

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I remember when I was a kid, there was a time when there seemed to be a lot of silent movies and programs about silent movies on TV. I guess maybe in the mid-70's or thereabouts there must have been a little craze for them or something. I used to watch them whenever I could, and I loved them, and that's something that's always stuck with me over the years.

Once in a while something will trigger my interest in them again, and up to now there's usually been some reason why I can't really get into watching more than one or two of them - inaccessibility, usually, like I always found it difficult (in the UK) getting titles on video cassette - I had a few prerecorded titles, and some stuff I taped off TV, but not many. When we had a TV, there seemed to be little shown, and rarely. I remember seeing "Greed" and "Broken Blossoms" on Channel 4, probably over ten years ago. I'm sure there is the odd showing still on TV, obv not having a TV anymore, I don't see it!

In the last week, for some reason, something triggered it off again, I watched a few clips on youtube, eg Lillian Gish being rescued from the ice from "Way Down East":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVSJFzm-Kxk

...& got all interested again. This time the accessibility/availability issue is much different. I have 2 computers that can play DVDs, and I have access to the internet. My wife just signed up to an online DVD rental service, which seems to have a half-decent range of silent titles available. I can trawl around various websites & read reviews of what's I can get, and which is the best available version. That's great!

Pashmina, Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Less great is finding out just how little is left of all the silent movies. I had no idea how fucking sad this sitiation was 'till last week. I'd figured/assumed that a minority of silent movies, including a couple of significant titles ("Cleopatra" w/Theda Bara is pretty well-known to be a lost film) were lost. I didn't realise that between 80% and 90% of all silent films are lost, and probably lost forever. Fuck, that's unbelievably terrible. This filmography of Norma Joyce - an actress I've never heard of or seen, TBH - c/w survival status of each film, seems to be typical:

http://www.stanford.edu/~gdegroat/AJ/filmography.htm

Here is an alphabetised and partial list of lost silent movies:

http://www.silentera.com/lost/index.html

This list of lost films probably only tells 1/2 the story as well - many of the films I checked on the main film list have their survival status marked as "unknown". "Unknown" I suspect in a lot of cases means "lost, but not 'important' enough for someone to go looking for it.". I'll stop before I just go on and on about this. It's really affected me.

I picked up a copy of Chaplin's "City Lights", which I hadn't seen before, last week, and I totally enjoyed every minute of it, I had pretty high expectations of how good it was going to be, and it was better still. I really like "Easy Street" and "Gold Rush", and I thought "City Lights" was better than either film. "Gold Rush", I'm going to pick up this week. I got "Way Down East" from the DVD rental place this week, and watched it over the last couple of days, for some reason I thought I'd only seen clips of this - esp the ice river rescue scene linked to above, but a lot of the film was familiar as it happens, so I must have seen it at least once. It's grotesquely sentimental, laden with pathos from beginning to end, but that stuff pushes all my buttons & always has. I was rooting for Lillian Gish's poor piteous little character all the way through, I felt so sorry for her when she turned up at the rich relatives' place, and they're quite horrible to her, god I was so angry with them! The little scene after the river rescue where she wakes up & sees Richard Barthelmess, who's been up all night taking care of her brought a tear to my eye, god I'm such a wuss.

I have "Sunrise", "Pandora's Box", some "Fantomas" silents and a couple of other titles queued up at the DVD rental place.

Anyway, if anyone has any interesting links, recommendations of stuff that's available on DVD, news of reissues/restorations/found films, or anything, really, I'd be interested to hear about it. Titles I'm particularly interested in are "White Gold" (this film was listed as lost in a book I have, I saw it available on Sunrise's site, so I guess someone must have found it) "The Crowd", Louise Brooks films made before "Pandora's Box", Colleen Moore Flapper-era comedies, Norma Talmadge films. I'm kind of especially interested in films that were really popular in the twenties, but which have been forgotten now.


Pashmina, Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

The most interesting thing I've read about in the last week is the discovery of 2 Colleen Moore films that were thought to be lost - "Synthetic Sin", from whence the classic image of Moore as flapper girl:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2440/cm1.jpg

And "Why be Good". details here:

http://www.picking.com/vitaphone82.html

More details here, including an mp3 of part of the vitaphone disc soundtrack, some wild and rocking jazz:

http://vitaphone.blogspot.com/2007/01/snows-of-yesteryear.html

I really hope these come out on DVD. I tried looking for various other Colleen Moore films from the late 20's, but couldn't find anything. I enjoyed "Ella Cinders" when I saw it years ago.

Pashmina, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=11896

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

oops, sorry pash.
the silent film thread

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

Gah, I knew there was an old silent films thread in the archive, but I didn't realise it'd been revived so recently.

Pashmina, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

There was also at least one other thread where we mentioned stuff like The Outlaw and his Wife, but I think that is lost on the cutting room floor of ILF.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)


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