JOE ROGAN VS. CARLOS MENCIA... FITE!!!

Mencia was born “Ned Arnel Mencia”, the seventeenth of eighteen children in San Pedro Sula, Honduras. His father, Roberto Holness, is from Honduras, and his mother, Magdelena Mencia, is from Mexico. He was raised in East Los Angeles, California by his aunt Consuelo and uncle Pablo Mencia. "out of respect for his father", he went by the name Ned Holness as a boy.

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hmm

https://www.facebook.com/hermano/videos/10214723690180350/

Tie-dye t-shirts with big streaks of black in them are one of my favorite genre of tie-dyes.

i don't understand how he can believe this and still be "friends" with alex jones. is he just opportunistic or really fucking dumb?

why not both

it's just kinda weird.

i'm not a "de-platforming" guy and i have nothing in principle against him having these alt right figures on his podcast (he has had everyone from milo to gavin mcinness to alex jones and, most famously, jordan peterson). but in his conversations with these people he barely pushes back on their ideas, if at all. he is probably as responsible as anyone else for jordan peterson's rise. if he really wants to build a more compassionate society, and if he really cares about the welfare of refugees at the border, he should be more skeptical of these people (to put it lightly)

think it's been a while since he was tight with jones, voiced skepticism about lol sandy hook truthery. the thing you learn with rogan is he'll mostly go along with whoever he's got on (that tie dyed video, i assume from the voice duncan trussell was the guest), so, like last week? it was bari weiss and then killer mike, so you've got clips of him on the war on poverty with killer mike and then he's got a clip with bari weiss on "anti-semitism by progressives." some intellectual darkweb guys are so dumb that majority report can pull clips of him dunking on jp or dave rubin by just picking at the seams of their arguments. but he's usually very credulous, so depending on the guest, he might be getting horrified by the treatment of white south african farmers or all aboard board with medicare for all. i mean, overall, despite his preoccupation with free speech and welcoming alt-right guests, he has the fairly moderate libtard opinions expected from a 50something coastal elite dude + very mild conspiracy theory stuff (more fbi assassinations of radical leaders and less chemtrails these days).

yeah, "credulous" is a better word for what i'm talking about than "dumb." he does seem to look for the "best" in his guests, which is a good personality trait i suppose, but it's weird when it leads him to giving pretty egregious right wing figures the chance to prove that they too can hang

idk but isn't his thing that he DOESN'T push back?

I'd never actually seen or heard him till recently (though I knew he was famous for the podcast I hadn't seen anything until maybe two months ago). From what I've seen he just kind of agrees with whichever guest he has on, maybe the only real consistency around the idea of "free speech" - which I don't think of as exclusively a 'modern right wing thing'.

he has a big audience, if he's saying stuff like this he either believes it or thinks enough of his audience does, or both?

i think his audience are mostly liberals or else vaguely apolitical libertarians. i've gotten texts from friends asking me to help them formulate reasons why jordan peterson is wrong. they know he's wrong, but they're kinda turned around after hearing the podcast where rogan agreed with the stuff he was saying and made it seem like common sense.

full disclosure: that happened one time. i don't why i made it plural.

i actually don't think rogan is any dumber or more credulous than the average american newsmedia personality, though, and probably less reactionary and definitely less cold-blooded. i also i think his working class roots show (how lame that sounds writing it on ilx in this spirited defense of joe rogan!), like he was set by 30 but still grew up the kid of a single mom, raised in newton mass, didn't go to college etc.

it's ridiculous to suggest he's being taken advantage of by right wing grifters but intellectually he's quite often bullied; he has that anti-intellectual streak that makes america great, where he'll express an idea, like, why would you go to college and major in history when you can just listen to dan carlin's hardcore history? or, why would a kid go a hundred grand into debt getting a humanities degree when the great lectures are on youtube, ted talks, jordan peterson lecturing on the hero's journey and jung! he'd rather grapple with ideas from his own perspective and knowledge, which leaves him vulnerable to the elite-level sophistry of, say, candace owens or jordan p (if you put him against a neanderthal reactionary like owen benjamin or 2019 nick dipaolo, he does fine). he does push back! but it's usually ineffective.

great posts dylann

Yea i agree—good analysis. There is something charmingly populist about him and I understand why the podcast is popular. But yeah, he is a good mark for the peterson’s of the world

He floats above it.

yikes

In another old clip posted online, Rogan responds to a guest who has a Black dad and a white mom by saying, “Powerful combination genetic-wise, right? You get the body of the Black man and then you get the mind of the white man all together in some strange combination. That doesn’t mean, by the way, that Black people don’t have brains. It’s a different brain.”

This is your periodic reminder that Chuck C. Johnson is NOT ME.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 6, 2022

Charles Johnson from Little Green Footballs has quite the resume:

1976 School Days with Stanley Clarke
1977 I'm Fine, How Are You with Airto Moreira
1977 Reach for It with George Duke
1977 Easy Living with Sonny Rollins
1976 Garden of Love Light with Narada Michael Walden
1978 Don't Let Go with George Duke
1978 Don't Ask My Neighbors with Raul de Souza
1979 Follow the Rainbow with George Duke
1979 Future Street with Pages
1980 Nielsen Pearson with Nielsen Pearson
1980 Rocks, Pebbles and Sand with Stanley Clarke
1981 Pages [1981] with Pages
1982 Dream On with George Duke
1983 Not the Boy Next Door with Peter Allen
1984 In London with Al Jarreau
1984 Live in London with Al Jarreau
1987 All In the Name of Love with Atlantic Starr
1988 Guitar Workshop: Tribute to with Otis Redding
1989 One Passion with Michael Paulo
1993 Art & Survival with Dianne Reeves
1994 L.A. with Hiroshima
1995 Piel Ajena with Eduardo Capetillo
1996 George Duke Greatest Hits with George Duke
1996 Is That the Way to Your Heart with Kazu Matsui
1998 A Song a Day
2000 When I Hold You in My Heart with Clay Mortensen
2000 Rare Collection with Jaco Pastorius
2001 Pages [2001] with Pages
2003 Punk Jazz: The Jaco Pastorius Anthology with Jaco Pastorius
2003 In Between the Heartaches with Phyllis Hyman

Why should I change my name? He's the one who sucks.

thx for that Rogan trans wrap-up, C. Grisso

Lmao at him clarifying he doesn't think black people don't have brains. Cmon that'd be ridiculous, he just thinks they have shitty ones.

Yeah, Rogan's defense for saying racist things seems to be "I didn't mean that horribly racist interpretation, I meant the still pretty racist interpretation"

imagine being Joe Rogan and having Serious Thoughts about someone else’s brain being ‘different’

Oh look at Bill Maher & Joe Rogan hanging out pic.twitter.com/ufpqiGngaT

— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) April 13, 2022

these guys are such stooges

Oh my God. Joe Rogan tried to say Biden is unqualified by claiming he said something that TRUMP said.

He got fact checked in real time. This is amazing.

(h/t @Mediaite) pic.twitter.com/qlY9xvPhOS

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) December 22, 2023

lol @ all the dickriders saying this is how it shows Rogan is more transparent than mainstream media, by allowing himself to be corrected in real time (as opposed to actually fact-checking it before he ran with it in the first place)

"that's the thing about media these days, you gotta look into it"

amazing how the tone shifts from "someone needs to get him out of there" to "well he clearly misspoke" once it's revealed who it actually is

Discovered this guy’s channel last night and binged most of his videos. Pretty hilarious takedown of JR with an editing sophistication of Adam Curtis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EuKibmlll4

A clip from that special showed up on Instagram - I had the sound off so no idea what he was saying but Rogan has morphed into a 5'6" version of Dana White, just two red sweaty girthy penises in ugly clothing.

That is very rude to sweaty girthy penises

Choad Manifest

that takedown was amazing, almost felt like a Vic Berger thing but with narration

Joe talking about how he types his jokes like he's slipping into some other dimension is so hilarious

I do believe comedy really is an art form so what he's saying here is pretty valid to me but like as applied to the jokes he's doing it's just lmao

this guy's channel is fucking amazing wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiX5Nn4X-4Q

holy shit rogan and dana white are different ppl and ive only just realised it

"delicate, flowing, mustard blouse" killed me

Oh man I’m dying at that Dan Carlin Oatmeal War video

The part where they play Rogan's bit over file footage of Mussolini at a rally was ... *chef's kiss*

Incredible video, dude really did his homework wow

I listen to JRE maybe 2-3 times/month because of select guests. Joe is largely intolerable but sometimes quiet enough. What I’d absolutely support would be a Joe-less listen. Anyone here so inclined to edit him out of the conversations?
The No Rogan Experience!

there's other podcasts

like Red Scare

username fails to check out

It’s mad how people would insist that this shit for brains was apolitical or didn’t have a clear slant. So glad I never listened to anyone saying his shit was good. Inadvertent dunk on the “great and powerful” clown in front of the curtain.

The great and powerful @elonmusk.
If it wasn't for him we'd be fucked. He makes what I think is the most compelling case for Trump you'll hear, and I agree with him every step of the way.
For the record, yes, that's an endorsement of Trump.
Enjoy the podcast pic.twitter.com/LdBxZFVsLN

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) November 5, 2024

if you are paying for Spotify then you are paying for this guy

I’ve got bad news for you about ethical consumption under capitalism and the mainstreaming of fascism by the main media platforms m8

Wonder what Musk said, guess I'll never know.

I am dark gothic MAGAAAAAA!!!

Rogan endorsing at the 11th hour isn't going to do a thing

also he is a piece of shit

Rogan trying to make up for suggesting Trump hire the Kill Tony guy

Rogan endorsing at the 11th hour isn't going to do a thing

Honestly I'm not so sure. Not just Rogan but Trump did a circuit of similar large audience podcasts in the immediate run in to the election - and then looking at demographics where Trump overperformed relative to 2020, I think its possible it did have an effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVl9xXG1pbk

Also covered here in Tempe, albeit briefly

There was a longer clip talking to younger voters in line but I could only find this one

Can someone with higher tolerance for bullshit than me listen to the Rogan interview with Trump and give me the rundown? I tried to do it the other day, "for science," but I noped out when Joe was setting up his first question like "You've been the most attacked person, that I've seen, probably ever in history" 🙄🙄🙄

Yep, here’s your summary

it’s always 2 dumb bitches telling each other “exactlyyyyy” pic.twitter.com/53PIuERfV7

— ✨ Mikey ✨ (@mikey_almeida) June 21, 2023

I know the timelines don't line up at all, but I want to post something about the world we could be living in if only Brynn would have married a different NewsRadio cast member.

I hate to use the "sunshine is the best disinfectant" cliche but in many cases it's been true - look at the effect his podcasts with Alex Jones and Elon Musk had on their respective careers.

― flappy bird, Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:01 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol

New Elephant Graveyard video. Long but awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewvRS3NwIlQ

yeah it's incredible, I know it's a minor thing but using bits of the Seinfeld theme to bleep out swear words makes me crack up every single time

yikes some of the old post in this thread

I watched the Elephant Graveyard video because ppl are talking about it and I can’t say I understand what’s so great about it. It’s like one decent point (The Austin comedy scene runs itself like some famous death cults) just beaten into the ground for 90 minutes as a … parody of Adam Curtis movies?

This thing turning a barely-funny gag into something people find “insightful” is like the leftie version of those Sam Hyde “these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny” videos

I know it's a minor thing but using bits of the Seinfeld theme to bleep out swear words makes me crack up every single time

Easily the best part of this. The video felt far more Craig Baldwin/Sub-Genius than one of Adam Curtis. Felt like the conclusion was coming home at the 40min mark then suddenly realized holy fuck I'm not even halfway through this?